People Who Do Not Grow The Forum

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I am starting to get sick of people opening a forum straght away to the public with only 10 posts. I wish people would let it get to 1k from family and mates first before releasing on the forums. Also when people open forums with 10 posts then do not post for 5 days cause they expect other members to do it.... This is highly annoying for me currently... Is anyone feeling annoyed like I am at this?

People do not seem to be able to create decent forums much anymore....
 
very true. it seems to be happening more and more now a-days though....
 
Well, from my experience, the mindset of such people are "Yesyesyes I have it, it's online, now I have to publish/let the world know" and they never consider what it is they're presenting in hopes that services like forumpromotion will help them gain complete success(which it will to a certain extent, a different type of success that is). My best piece of advice, set goals, small goals and extend them to bigger ones as the smaller ones are met.
 
I agree in concept, but I think that admins need to set a more reasonable number of posts to get before they open. 1000 is not a reasonable number. 1000 posts is extremely difficult to get on your own. Even with a friend or two it can be rough to get 1000 posts before you open. (Perhaps 5-10 topics per section of the forum...) But I do think that people need to make more of an effort if they want to see their forum succeed. Not just think that because they opened a forum people will flock to them.

But on the flip side of this argument, admins alone can't do this by themselves. (Which is something many potential members don't think about, let alone admins who now have successful forums and haven't opened one in a while.) They do need members to help them out. But sometimes getting members to help out can be pretty tough. Especially if you don't have someone you can rely on to post consistently or help out in the activity department. (Not everyone has family that could help or friends that are interested in their type of forum.) Many people won't even consider joining until you have a decent level of activity going already. But for that you need members...

Furthermore there are always a lot of other factors affecting potential members other than pure activity level. If the theme is bad/hard to read people won't join. If the staff comes across like an obnoxious know-it-all, people won't join. Not to mention the theme/genre of the site... if there are a thousand and one of that type of forum, then it also makes it hard because your competition is so much higher.
 
Welcome to the internet, 95% of forums won't last beyond the first 6 months. There are only a very small % who actually get their forums off the ground, it's like clutching at straws.
 
I agree that there should be some content on the forum before its released. A forum owner should recruit some people to help get some conversations going... Or at least he/she should post a bunch of topics in each section so potential members have something to reply to.
 
I agree, people that do that may fail anyway

I use to always give up but I've learnt to stay dedicated my forum got 200 Posts before opening But still doing post exchanges to build the forums up.
 
I agree with you partially. Admins that create forums and just expect posts. That annoys me.

The thing I don't agree about is opening it after getting posts from friends and such. This is because some people don't have friends who are familiar with the niche. Those people include me. I released it to the public when it had a couple posts, but I worked very hard on it and got it up to around 200 posts at the end of the first day. I think as long as the admin puts great effort into it, its fine.
 
The best I always see is a brand new 1 post forum being advertised as "The Best (insert genre) Forum you'll ever join". 😀

And the admins seriously think just because they made a brand new forum, with zero content, and with only the default software theme people are going to beat down their doors to make it active.
 
hcfwesker said:
The best I always see is a brand new 1 post forum being advertised as "The Best (insert genre) Forum you'll ever join". 😀

Or it would be "Your #1 Source for (insert genre) discussions!" :lol:
 
I try and learn from my failures...... But asking family and friends to post is all well and good if you have a topic they're interested in, but what if they're not??? I asked a couple of friends to post in a forum I used to own, but they don't use forums so.....
 
GAF said:
I am starting to get sick of people opening a forum straght away to the public with only 10 posts. I wish people would let it get to 1k from family and mates first before releasing on the forums. Also when people open forums with 10 posts then do not post for 5 days cause they expect other members to do it.... This is highly annoying for me currently... Is anyone feeling annoyed like I am at this?

People do not seem to be able to create decent forums much anymore....

I disagree. I opened my admin forum with just a few topics here and there and within a month I had over 2,000 topics and posts (most of which were mine but I can easily drop 200 topics a day 🙂) However, I do see where you are coming from, there are those who launch with 10 or so and expect others to do their dirty work of populating the forum... They usually wake up eventually 🙂
 
Yeah. Overall it can be irritating when people act like their forum is already big and they haven't put effort on it, or it doesn't show. Not because you say it is the best people will flock o it, or when they treat it so much like business that you don't feel expected as a member but just as a +1 to the forum members statistics.

I think as a rule of thumb before you release a forum you could at least try have one thread in each main section. Many people open the forums with just the "rules" and the "new" in the announcement saying "welcome" and informing you "we're officially open". Sure some people like to make the 'first thread' in new forums, but it is very rare you will get that odd one joining and even if they do, if they do not see the admin working or answering their posts they most likely will walk off.

I also don't agree with the average amount of posts before releasing, I think it depends on the forum. Some forums start smaller than others, I think even just 30 thread could be adequate for some communities, and then just try to keep creating new ones often enough.

Also, about the friends and family. Some people open the boards because they want to find people they can relate with since their friends and family do not share that form of interest. Even with friends taht share my interests I have found hard to make them join the boards, and those that make an account will most likely not use it again. So not everyone has online or offline people to help them they are starting off.
Another tools are not that easily found, many promotion forums will not give you a package unless your forum is big enough not to need it any more solely for content purpose. Post exchanges it is harder hey accept with new forums. So you are on your own.


Something that annoys me as much a no content forum is forum where the new activity is 20 post by the admins that are just "news" pasted from different sources. Try spreading your posts, try to wording some threads without going for external sources. I don't even know if I am supposed to answer those treads and outside taht news section the forum is dead. It gives me desire to join.

Shawn said:
I disagree. I opened my admin forum with just a few topics here and there and within a month I had over 2,000 topics and posts (most of which were mine but I can easily drop 200 topics a day 🙂) However, I do see where you are coming from, there are those who launch with 10 or so and expect others to do their dirty work of populating the forum... They usually wake up eventually 🙂

Exactly, you see... I have joined empty forums before. It is fun sometimes to interact with the lone ranger admin, so long you see the intention to be there. Countless times I've been in forums taht change skins every few days before finding the right one.

At least with me, when someone is starting it depends more the person's attitude and the way this admin interacts with others more so that the forum. I have joined bare forums and been this odd person helping it with threads because I liked the admin and I could empathise with the effort she or he seemed to be doing and the wanting to make something for years but sparing us the despotic and conceited way many new administrators seems to pour through their posts. I like helping, and if the project gets my interest (or it is LoZ related :lol: ) I am up to register, make some threads and stay if I like it... but if I get a bad impression from a person, I am not inclined to check the board.

Yay! End of rant.
 
To be quite honest I enjoy joining empty forums where there may be an admin and a few members. Its a great way to make friends and be a big part of the forum's growth if it gets big. Plus you get bragging rights to say "I was one of the first" and if your very active, you get to know you helped out a great day to get it going if it were to get fairly active and large 🙂
 
Shawn said:
To be quite honest I enjoy joining empty forums where there may be an admin and a few members. Its a great way to make friends and be a big part of the forum's growth if it gets big. Plus you get bragging rights to say "I was one of the first" and if your very active, you get to know you helped out a great day to get it going if it were to get fairly active and large 🙂

You remind me of the early days of AAF. Yes, it can be a lot of fun taking part in a new forum. Provided the owner or admin of the forum takes an active interest in the forum.
 
Small forums are underrated.

A lot of people prefer them. They like the cozy feeling of it just being a quiet relaxing place to spend time online with some buddies.
 
I think growing a forum is not that different from bringing up a child. When it's a baby, it need constant attention and frequent feeding. Same for a forum. A forum, in its infancy, need constant attention and frequent feeding, too. Feeding in this case, would mean posting in it.

I do think a forum can be opened to the public even with 10 posts. Just need a lot more work to keep it alive, that's all.
 
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