Posts in Staff Forum Added to Members' Post Count

[Fergal]

Do you allow posts made in your staff forum sections, to add to your staff members' post count? I've mixed views on the subject. On the one hand I feel that staff members who make the effort to post in the staff section deserve to have their post count increased in return for those posts. On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

What are your views?

 

[Bossanova]

I feel post counts in the staff sections should add to the staffs posts. Members may not be able to see the section, but it's there to let the staff discuss things on improving the forum, whether it be on how to deal with troubled members, or choosing the next staff.

On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

That can be false. Posts in the staff section can drastically help members, even if they don't realize it.

 

[Fergal]

Thanks Tim.

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On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

That can be false. Posts in the staff section can drastically help members, even if they don't realize it.

Very true, actually that's why I used the word "directly".

Anyone else got an opinion on this?

 

[David]

On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

That can be false. Posts in the staff section can drastically help members, even if they don't realize it.

Can I ask how posts, which members cannot see, helps other members? Could you please provide an example as to how it can "drastically help members"?

 

[Deleted member 7467]

On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

That can be false. Posts in the staff section can drastically help members, even if they don't realize it.

Can I ask how posts, which members cannot see, helps other members? Could you please provide an example as to how it can "drastically help members"?

Well, your discussing on how to improve the site, that affects members when it gets implemented.

 

[David]

On the other hand I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members, and hence they should not be included in the Staff Members' post count.

That can be false. Posts in the staff section can drastically help members, even if they don't realize it.

Can I ask how posts, which members cannot see, helps other members? Could you please provide an example as to how it can "drastically help members"?

Well, your discussing on how to improve the site, that affects members when it gets implemented.

If it gets implemented, and that is behind the scenes. How can an imaginary post in the users perspective help them? The post count itself doesn't help, but what is being said can. But I interpreted Fergal's post as the post count, not the contents of the post.

 

[Bossanova]

Behind the scenes is still "in the scenes". (sorry, couldn't word that right) They are not imaginary posts, they are legit, real posts.

 

[Deleted member 7467]

Yep, Tim is right. Unless the owner's open up a hidden staff spam board, it's still a post.

 

[David]

Behind the scenes is still "in the scenes". (sorry, couldn't word that right) They are not imaginary posts, they are legit, real posts.

Of course they are real and it should be added to their post count, but I don't think it should be added to the forum's post count. If you can't see that post then it should be added to the overall stats. A visitor may go down the forum and see a large discrepancy between the stats in the footer and what they see, so it doesn't always look good.

The post content may help members but in the end, the member can't see it so it should be added to the overall forum post count.

BTW, it didn't answer my original question.

 

[Bossanova]

How can an imaginary post in the users perspective help them?

Lets see, they can decide which rules be will be added, which members to ban, who's to become staff, and there's allot more reasons. If you honestly can't see that reasoning, then you need to think a bit about it.

 

[David]

How can an imaginary post in the users perspective help them?

Lets see, they can decide which rules be will be added, which members to ban, who's to become staff, and there's allot more reasons. If you honestly can't see that reasoning, then you need to think a bit about it.

That's potential, not direct. As Fergal said:

I feel that posts in the staff section don't directly provide content and helpful info to members

A hidden post has potential to help members, but it never directly helps them until they've seen it.

 

[Bluezone777]

If these hidden posts benefit no one then why does every board have a staff section?

It's obvious because they do have some reason why they exist hence why they are there. I rather have a staff section to discuss board issues with fellow staff instead of having them send endless pms to each other.

I don't get the obsession with post count. It's a post no matter how long or short or meaningful or totally pointless it is so I don't see why anyone stops posts from adding to post count. Also the counts truly don't mean anything more then the number of times you typed something and hit add reply so why would you base anything meaningful on that number? It boggles my mind why people make such a big deal out of it? lol

 

[Fergal]

Thanks everyone for your helpful replies. I'll still allow those posts to add to staff members' post count, for the time being any how.