Pro-gun vs. Anti-gun

[cityStatic]

After a very intriguing MSN convo with Snobo, I decided to start this topic.

Are you pro-gun or anti-gun? My stance should be quite blatant. If you couldn't figure it out already, I'm anti-gun. Why? Well, Canada 14000 people in federal prison - .04% of its population in jail and ALL handguns are either prohibited or restricted in Canada. "50% of all guns used to commit crimes in Canada were smuggled from the US. The RCMP, Justice Canada, Statistics Canada, and the Toronto Police Service all say that they've heard that figure 'bandied about', but that they themselves are not the source" (http://www.panda.com/canadaguns/). The US has .75% of its population in jail, and gun laws in the States are not as strict as those in *coughliberalcough* countries such as Canada. Let's say that .75% means 750 out of 100,000 people (which it does mean). "The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people. The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63" (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world ... 53738.html). Anyways, enough with facts.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Pro-gun.

Maybe it is just that Americans are angry people? Austria and Czech Republic have more liberal (er conservative) gun laws that the US and have a much lower prison population.

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

 

[Deleted member 1609]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

No, I wouldn't. I would never shoot another person. Even if I had one, I probably wouldn't be able to use it anyway.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

No, I wouldn't. I would never shoot another person.

Hmm, that's news to me. I've never met somebody that won't defend themselves getting robbed, but there's always a first.

 

[Justin]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

No, I wouldn't. I would never shoot another person.

Hmm, that's news to me. I've never met somebody that won't defend themselves getting robbed, but there's always a first.

He didn't say he didn't want to defend himself, he said he wouldn't shoot the person. You can defend yourself without a gun.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

No, I wouldn't. I would never shoot another person.

Hmm, that's news to me. I've never met somebody that won't defend themselves getting robbed, but there's always a first.

He didn't say he didn't want to defend himself, he said he wouldn't shoot the person. You can defend yourself without a gun.

True.

I've been doing work too long. Can't...think....straight....

 

[cityStatic]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

If there weren't any guns, would you need to defend yourself?

 

[Watch Me Sink]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

If there weren't any guns, would you need to defend yourself?

Yes. If you were in a wheelchair and a NFL linebacker were to break in, you'd probably need a gun.

 

[Justin]

Hehe I am tired too 🙂

Well back to the topic, I would use a gun if I had it. I would have one somewhere in the house because you never know. But that's just me.

 

[lordelian]

Anti-gun
Becouse most of legal guns also used in crimes. And killing people even when defending yourself is awfull. I would never kill someone to defend myself.

 

[katy perry is hot]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

No, I wouldn't. I would never shoot another person. Even if I had one, I probably wouldn't be able to use it anyway.

I would. If it's to defend myself or loved ones, then I would certainly.

What this comes down to is that guns are here, we can't just go and think we can take every gun in the world, burn it, and then everything is better.. nothing works like that, sorry.

I believe in heavy restrictions on weapons though. I find that if assault rifles, submachine guns, and other military weaponry be totally restricted from civilian ownership. I don't care if you served in the Army, you protected the President, or you are Jesus Christ, you shouldn't get to keep those types of weapons in your home.

However, I strongly support handguns and shotguns for personal ownership, but, a strict screening process must be done. If you were ever convicted of any type of felony, no gun at all, sorry. If you haven't been through proper training courses, no gun, sorry. If you are found to mentally unfit, no.

The current gun purchase restrictions are VERY loose right now. In some states, any shmo over 18 can go and buy a handgun and get himself and others killed with it.

There should be a federal law that requires psychiatric testing, background checking, and after that's all done, before you can get the gun, you have to attend some type of course to ensure you know when to use it, and how to use it. The only people who should be exempt are members of Law Enforcement.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I actually agree with most of that above post. I think that only violent felons should be restricted, but the majority of that post I can agree with.
Military grade weapons aren't used for self defense and should be almost banned from civilian ownership. I can hardly see any reason why one would need assault rifles and machine guns.

Woah, I'm agreeing with a lib :O

 

[cityStatic]

I actually agree with most of that above post. I think that only violent felons should be restricted, but the majority of that post I can agree with.
Military grade weapons aren't used for self defense and should be almost banned from civilian ownership. I can hardly see any reason why one would need assault rifles and machine guns.

Woah, I'm agreeing with a lib :O

Near-lib. I haven't seen his opinion on gay marriage or amost anything else.

 

[katy perry is hot]

I'm actually extremely liberal on everything except guns.

 

[P8I.com]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

If there weren't any guns, would you need to defend yourself?

Yes. If not a gun, you'd be facing down a knife or some other weapon.

 

[katy perry is hot]

If somebody broke into your house, would you want a gun to defend yourself?

If there weren't any guns, would you need to defend yourself?

Yes. If not a gun, you'd be facing down a knife or some other weapon.

Exactly. Humans will continue to invent new tools as years go on. It's that simple.

 

[Firecracker]

I'm anti-gun. Well for the general population anyway.

I understand that thugs and gangs can have guns so I appreciate that police need to keep up with the times and we do now have some armed police throughout the UK.

But for everyone, then no. I would want to defend myself if someone broke into my house, but guns are banned here in the UK anyway so you just use whatever you can get your hands on!

One thing that I don't like about people owning guns is the accidents you hear of. Some kid finds his dads gun and plays with it and ends up blowing his brother away. Or like when a kid goes nuts and kills a load of kids at school. If their parents didn't have a gun in the house would that kid have known how to get hold of one ilegally? Probably not have enough money for one.

I have some friends who live in the USA who have young children and have guns. And I have asked aren't they worried that their kids will touch them. And they either say oh its a rifle locked away in a garage or its a hand gun in a locked box on a high shelf in the back of my closet. Well hang on.... how are these any good to you if masked gun men break down your bedroom door???

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Which is why when you store a gun, keep it unloaded or with a gun lock. Hiding guns in a closet wouldn't be effective for robbers. However keeping guns in a locked safe near a bed would be a better idea. Unless the robbers are professionals, a gunshot into a wall or the roof would scare the living shit out of them.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Which is why when you store a gun, keep it unloaded or with a gun lock. Hiding guns in a closet wouldn't be effective for robbers. However keeping guns in a locked safe near a bed would be a better idea. Unless the robbers are professionals, a gunshot into a wall or the roof would scare the living **** out of them.

Exactly.

My idea is that you can't just buy a gun, you need to be screened and go through tons of classes and training on how to use it to defend yourself, WHEN to use it to defend yourself, and how to store it. I believe that all gun owners should be required to buy one of those high tech digital safes, not like now where you can leave the store with one after a week long bullshit "background check" and go home and put it in your drawer for your kid to get the next day.

 

[Cosmic]

The supreme court just ruled that it is unconstitutional to restrict gun ownership in the US to a degree which infringes on someone's 2nd amendment rights. This will not affect reasonable laws, such as banning criminals from acquiring weapons, but will affect more broad restrictions.

Also, crime rates tend to double when you take away guns. Look at the statistics. Look at the UK and Ohio.