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ItsZippy

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From my discussions, it seems that a lot of people here are strong supporters of freedom of speech. Do you, therefore, think that racism should be illegal? Why? And what about other forms of discrimination?
 
No. absolutely not. If you want to go out and scream that muslims are terrorists, that the black people are taking over the world, that martin luther king was a terrorist and traitor, you can go right ahead.

As for discrimination, what do you mean?
 
I do believe that racism should be fully legal. Discrimination, however, should not be legal because that is when freedom of speech/expression infringes upon the rights of others. If you're posting on a blog or screaming in public that all blacks/Jews/Muslims should be burned or something, then whatever. As long as you're not actually making plans to go out and burn a bunch of blacks/Jews/Muslims, then it's okay. However, if you refuse to hire someone simply because he/she is black, Jewish, Muslim, et cetera, then you're infringing upon that person's right to be employed. That's the only acceptable limitation of freedom of expression in my opinion.
 
No reason for it to be illegal. People can say what they want as long as it isn't slander.
 
No way in hell do i think racism should be illegal.

People have the right to say what they want about certain types of people, without worrying about having to go to jail for it.
 
No, racism should not be illegal. Hate crimes should be (are) illegal, and that's what everyone is saying about discrimination. It's when racism becomes more than an opinion and turns into an action (like the KKK) that things become illegal.
 
Gimgak said:
No reason for it to be illegal. People can say what they want as long as it isn't slander.
What is racism other than slander?
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slander
1. (Law) Law
a. defamation in some transient form, as by spoken words, gestures, etc.
b. a slanderous statement, etc.
2. any false or defamatory words spoken about a person; calumny
 
Sayf Udeen said:
Gimgak said:
No reason for it to be illegal. People can say what they want as long as it isn't slander.
What is racism other than slander?
Easy. I can make a positive racist and stereotypical statement: Black people are good at basketball. There is no slander in that, and the racism is positive, as well as the stereotyping. It may not necessarily be true, but it certainly has no intention of slander or negativity.
 
Also, slander is a lie aimed at one particular person personally. If you make racist statements, then it's about a group; thus, you're not targeting one particular person. Most sensible people aren't going to believe you if you say that all Muslims are terrorists who are going to nuke the entire USA anyway. They also won't believe that Latinos "Mexicans" have some secret plan to take over the United States so that they can use our welfare state (despite the fact that most of them pay taxes, but that's a different story for a different time).
 
Gimgak and Irviding, please don't make comments that don't help the debate at all. Also, turn off caps lock next time... Posts deleted.
 
Matthew said:
Gimgak and Irviding, please don't make comments that don't help the debate at all. Also, turn off caps lock next time... Posts deleted.
Sheesh if that's being cracked down on now you are gonna have to go through a lottttttt of posts. :lol:
 
Do you not think that a person's right to live without abuse is greater than someone's freedom of speech? People get up in arms here at losing freedom of speech, forgetting that we have other rights too...
 
ItsZippy said:
Do you not think that a person's right to live without abuse is greater than someone's freedom of speech? People get up in arms here at losing freedom of speech, forgetting that we have other rights too...
Live without abuse? What do you mean??
 
Taz said:
I believe racism should be banned and illegal.
So if I say "Most muslims aren't terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim" I should be thrown in jail?

What if I say "A lot of black people steal", jail too?
 
I don't think racism should be illegal Because it's all in how you perceive it. Because me & my friends joke about racism with each other all the time, but we don't perceive it in a derogatory way, therefore no one is hurt. I don't believe it should be illegal because I strongly believe in freedom of speech; I have the right to say wheat I want, when I want, to whoever I want without taking any crap from anybody.
Everyone says "Racism is bad...blah blah". But no one thinks about the fact that good and bad are an opinion. 😀<br /><br />-- 23 Dec 2010, 19:38 --<br /><br />
obama hates santa said:
Taz said:
I believe racism should be banned and illegal.
So if I say "Most muslims aren't terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim" I should be thrown in jail?

What if I say "A lot of black people steal", jail too?
Those are stereotypes though, those are a bit different, but the stereotypes are usually right because the people have brought it on to themselves.
 
obama hates santa said:
ItsZippy said:
Do you not think that a person's right to live without abuse is greater than someone's freedom of speech? People get up in arms here at losing freedom of speech, forgetting that we have other rights too...
Live without abuse? What do you mean??
I have the right not to be physically or verbally abused. Is that not more important than freedom of speech? I fully believe in freedom of speech, but doesn't it come with some element of responsibility?
 
i dont think it should be illegal unless it is negative and action is taken (like the KKK)
 
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