Should Members Be Able To Edit/Delete Their Posts?

sambling said:
I personally think you should allow them to edit- up to a time limit, but not delete their posts. This avoids them editing it afterward and then claiming to have never said what they said.
The height of paranoia. What kind of things do you expect these members to say, and then not claim afterwards?
SeanFace101 said:
Say you have a forum with doesnt allow posting of certain links to certains websites, lets say "adult sites". So i could make a thread on your forum posting something which you allow to be posted. Then after a while, i come back to your forum, go to that post, then change it completely to advertise the "adult site". If you have a busy forum, the post which has been edited could be pages back into your forum & less likely to be spotted of an admin or mod. This me getting my "adult site" advertised on your forum which i could have done if therewas No Editing or Editing Was Timed.
And this is also paranoia. Do you seriously think this will happen on a daily basis? Anyway, if it were genuinely active, other members would most likely have seen it, reported it, and you'd be banned (not "you", but a general member). And really, if it isn't reported, chances are people haven't seen it, hence it not being that active, so that member is in a lose-lose situation. And, if it was an old thread, Google, or other bots will have no reason to index that page again as there isn't anything telling them that new content is on that page.

Again, really unnecessary steps to combat a non-existent issue.
 
GTANeXt said:
On my forum, I allow my members to edit and delete their own posts. I can always keep track of troublesome posts (in the case of members deleting their posts before an Admin or Moderator can see them) because deleted posts are merely transferred to a private area on the forums, and we can deal with them accordingly.

If you can set up something like that on your forum, then by all means - go ahead and set the permissions to allow members to edit and delete their own posts.

Yeah, someone told me about these to phpbb MODs that can help me.

MOD: Mark Edited Posts As Unread
Desc: This MOD marks topic's last posts show as unread if they are edited.
Link: http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/m ... _as_unread

MOD: Prime Trash Bin
Desc: Allows topics and posts to be kept when they are deleted so that they can be reviewed before being permanently deleted (or undeleted). Also, provides the ability to enter a reason for the deletion, and allows deleted topics to be moved to a specified Trash Bin forum. These deleted topics and posts can be viewed, undeleted, or permanently deleted by those with the proper permissions. Permanent deletion will occur when deleting topics in the Trash Bin forum or topics and posts that have already been marked as deleted.
Link: http://www.absoluteanime.com/admin/mods.htm#trash_bin

Iv not added them yet..
But they seem to be good for helping with some of the things we are talking about.

DavidL said:
sambling said:
I personally think you should allow them to edit- up to a time limit, but not delete their posts. This avoids them editing it afterward and then claiming to have never said what they said.
The height of paranoia. What kind of things do you expect these members to say, and then not claim afterwards?

Anything, For example..
A member could post a thread. Then another member could take offence to it and reply on it then report it. The member that posted it could then edit it so it says something else. Well that member has offended someone on my forum & has got away with it & also what he said will never be known.

Yes, this may be unlikely, or rare to happen, but it could, and if possible is it not best to have something which can help stop this, even if it only happens once & never happens again?

DavidL said:
SeanFace101 said:
Say you have a forum with doesnt allow posting of certain links to certains websites, lets say "adult sites". So i could make a thread on your forum posting something which you allow to be posted. Then after a while, i come back to your forum, go to that post, then change it completely to advertise the "adult site". If you have a busy forum, the post which has been edited could be pages back into your forum & less likely to be spotted of an admin or mod. This me getting my "adult site" advertised on your forum which i could have done if therewas No Editing or Editing Was Timed.
And this is also paranoia. Do you seriously think this will happen on a daily basis? Anyway, if it were genuinely active, other members would most likely have seen it, reported it, and you'd be banned (not "you", but a general member). And really, if it isn't reported, chances are people haven't seen it, hence it not being that active, so that member is in a lose-lose situation. And, if it was an old thread, Google, or other bots will have no reason to index that page again as there isn't anything telling them that new content is on that page.

As i said above in this reply..
It may not happen on a daily basis, but if it is possible, and may happen, even if only once or twice in the future, is it not best to cover yourself for it?

About google indexing the page..
Say i submit my website's site map to google, yahoo etc.. This will tell them about the page. Will it not?
Also, If there is a link to the thread page somewhere else on the internet & a spider crawls the page with that link, then the search engine thats crawling that page will pick up the link, then crawl the page it links to (this being the thread page), will will then result in the search engine picking up the new content on it (the disallowed content that has been edited into the thread). Will it not?
 
SeanFace101 said:
Anything, For example..
A member could post a thread. Then another member could take offence to it and reply on it then report it. The member that posted it could then edit it so it says something else. Well that member has offended someone on my forum & has got away with it & also what he said will never be known.

Yes, this may be unlikely, or rare to happen, but it could, and if possible is it not best to have something which can help stop this, even if it only happens once & never happens again?

So the person reporting such comments should take initiative and take a screen shot. Or maybe you should hire more active moderators (ie. the whole point of moderators - to moderate).

SeanFace101 said:
As i said above in this reply..
It may not happen on a daily basis, but if it is possible, and may happen, even if only once or twice in the future, is it not best to cover yourself for it?
But my point was that these people will eventually be caught, or at least not responded to, ie. those links aren't even seen. I don't see any covering of yourself; members can flood a thread is less than a minute, and in that time, someone could have embedded a link to an illegal site. These things happen all the time, with or without time editing, so this again why you hire moderators.

SeanFace101 said:
About google indexing the page..
Say i submit my website's site map to google, yahoo etc.. This will tell them about the page. Will it not?
Also, If there is a link to the thread page somewhere else on the internet & a spider crawls the page with that link, then the search engine thats crawling that page will pick up the link, then crawl the page it links to (this being the thread page), will will then result in the search engine picking up the new content on it (the disallowed content that has been edited into the thread). Will it not?
No, no, no. Just because you've got a site map, it doesn't mean Google is going to index that page. Google needs incentives to index your page; the whole idea is to get active, new content on your forum. So, say if someone does edit the page so it contains an adult site link, how is Google going to know to index that page? They've already indexed it once, so they have no real reason to index it again, unless it is brought back up into circulation of active posts. Now, this brings it back to my point; since the only way for Google to know is by activity, but active requires the thread to be brought back to the top, chances are someone will see it, and report it. And even if they don't, then the attempted advertisers have failed in that sense. And really, moderators should moderate these threads. There is no point hiring moderators just for show - get them to actually do what their title requires them to do. Otherwise, it defeats the purpose of the job. Sure you can cover your back, but when logically thought out, it's unnecessary.
 
I think in this situation, you let members edit their post for up to 12 hours and after that, they will not be able to edit their posts.

I think topics are a different story and members should always be able to edit their topic.

As far as deleting posts/topics, you should NOT allow this.

/Democrat
 
I allow members to edit there posts, to prevent double posting. But I do not allow them to delete posts.
 
I think to be on the safe side (even if the unsafe side is unbelievibly rare)..
- Member have 1 hour to edit their posts after posting them.
- Member can Never delete their posts.
 
I allow them to edit their own posts but not delete them. they can request for them to be deleted by and admin or moderator and they can request to close the thread aswell.
 
Users should not beable to delete there own posts..

If you say "F-word you" to someone in real life, you can NEVER take that back. (You're cheating the system letting users delete there own posts, if you allow that)

Also, all posts must have a specified time edit interval. 20-30 minutes. and then they cannot edit it anymore. (Unless Moderator++)

my 2cents.

By letting users delete there posts, that is the same as letting a kid at your school go around and say "f-word" to every student then 20minutes later he just apologizes and the principals says "don't worry about it". It makes no sense and you need to treat your forum as in real LIFE. If someone is cussing/etc (Dependable on your forum rules) you need to take action and delete there post, or warn/suspend. The thing you cannot let them do is think it's okay to say those derogatory words then just delete there post, that's wrong.
 
SpeakWhatsReal said:
Users should not beable to delete there own posts..

If you say "F-word you" to someone in real life, you can NEVER take that back. (You're cheating the system letting users delete there own posts, if you allow that)

Also, all posts must have a specified time edit interval. 20-30 minutes. and then they cannot edit it anymore. (Unless Moderator++)

my 2cents.

By letting users delete there posts, that is the same as letting a kid at your school go around and say "f-word" to every student then 20minutes later he just apologizes and the principals says "don't worry about it". It makes no sense and you need to treat your forum as in real LIFE. If someone is cussing/etc (Dependable on your forum rules) you need to take action and delete there post, or warn/suspend. The thing you cannot let them do is think it's okay to say those derogatory words then just delete there post, that's wrong.

Yes, i must say..
I agree with all your post 😀
What forum software do you use?
 
SeanFace101 said:
SpeakWhatsReal said:
Users should not beable to delete there own posts..

If you say "F-word you" to someone in real life, you can NEVER take that back. (You're cheating the system letting users delete there own posts, if you allow that)

Also, all posts must have a specified time edit interval. 20-30 minutes. and then they cannot edit it anymore. (Unless Moderator++)

my 2cents.

By letting users delete there posts, that is the same as letting a kid at your school go around and say "f-word" to every student then 20minutes later he just apologizes and the principals says "don't worry about it". It makes no sense and you need to treat your forum as in real LIFE. If someone is cussing/etc (Dependable on your forum rules) you need to take action and delete there post, or warn/suspend. The thing you cannot let them do is think it's okay to say those derogatory words then just delete there post, that's wrong.

Yes, i must say..
I agree with all your post 😀
What forum software do you use?

My own 😉

I'm glad someone here agrees with me! Haha, having people edit there posts just seems to risky imo!
 
Do you use phpBB forum software?
If you do, When setting permissions for this..
To have the board-wide editing setting in the ACP to work properly, do i..

1).. Set all user permissions to Edit? then change limiting time to 30mins - 1 hour.
or
2).. Set all user permissions to No Edit? then change limiting time to 30mins - 1 hour.

Which will work?
 
SeanFace101 said:
Do you use phpBB forum software?
If you do, When setting permissions for this..
To have the board-wide editing setting in the ACP to work properly, do i..

1).. Set all user permissions to Edit? then change limiting time to 30mins - 1 hour.
or
2).. Set all user permissions to No Edit? then change limiting time to 30mins - 1 hour.

Which will work?
Sorry, not sure how phpbb2 or 3 works.

I think #1 is what u need.
 
ha.
Yes i will.

Im going to try both of them..
Was just wondering if you knew which was correct to save doing the wrong one first then the correct one second (usually happens lol).

PS: Did you make that video for your forum yourself? (vid in sig)
 
SeanFace101 said:
ha.
Yes i will.

Im going to try both of them..
Was just wondering if you knew which was correct to save doing the wrong one first then the correct one second (usually happens lol).

PS: Did you make that video for your forum yourself? (vid in sig)
Yeah, pretty noob eh? 😀

I am a php coder not a video editor! but I tried my best :cry:
 
Im just asking because i tryed to make a video for my forum too..
But it didnt look as good as that, it was terrible mate, lol.
Just scraped it & still not made one yet, lol 😛
 
I have always allowed my members to edit their own content, I mean it's their content, they should be able to edit it.
 
I allow my users to both delete and edit their posts.

They wrote it themselves, so why deny them the rights to delete or edit their post(s)?
 
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