Should Same Sex Marriage Be Legalized ?
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In other words, businesses should be able to turn people away for being black or Jewish?
Belthazar said:
^This.
Chances are it's not a big chain store, so everything in that smaller store can probably be found online or at another storefront. It's really not a huge deal. It's their loss, they're the ones losing the money.
MeowsePad said:
I believe businesses should have the right to serve whoever they want and turn away whoever they want. I also believe that its not in a businesses best interests to do that and it could potentially send them into bankruptcy. People who feel discriminated against have a right to free speech and should speak up about the treatment they received, not only to give other minority groups a heads up but also to inform level headed members of society about the bigotry going on at the establishment in question. Being a bigot in 2016 is not a "good look" and is bad for business, if a business owner is too stubborn to leave their prejudices at home, their wallet will face the consequences. Leave the law out of it, society will hold them accountable.
Hey just dropping my 2 cents-
If gays want to get get married, then that's great. However, I'm not interested in the idea of government being involved in marriage in general.
I'll even go further and say that 'punishing' people who are bigots/prejudiced goes against my understanding of freedom of speech/expression. When two groups disagree on something, the civilized thing to do is promote education on the subject- not force the other side into submission.
If gays want to get get married, then that's great. However, I'm not interested in the idea of government being involved in marriage in general.
I'll even go further and say that 'punishing' people who are bigots/prejudiced goes against my understanding of freedom of speech/expression. When two groups disagree on something, the civilized thing to do is promote education on the subject- not force the other side into submission.
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Yes it should be. I believe in total freedom.
neverendingcircles
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To my mind this shouldn't even be a debate. Of course it should be legal. However, the one thing I will say is I do think individual churches should have a legal right to refuse to marry homosexuals if they so choose. People's personal views (and in this case, ignorance and close-mindedness) shouldn't be outlawed.
Right now, our culture is at the point where it is just not accepting LGBT people as truly people. In a few decades, I'm pretty sure we're going to look back on the arguments saying that businesses should be able to deny service to gay people in the same way we used to look on the southerners who said "Businesses should be able to deny service to black people."
Humans have been hateful to each other for as long as we've been humans. It's going to take a while to put aside our prejudices. But hopefully, we'll do it before we manage to blow ourselves to kingdom come over them.
Humans have been hateful to each other for as long as we've been humans. It's going to take a while to put aside our prejudices. But hopefully, we'll do it before we manage to blow ourselves to kingdom come over them.
What? Your born black, you're not born a homosexual. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/for-t ... e-born-thaMatt said:
If people want to refuse service to people because they're black, white, homosexual, or whatever; that should be your right. I don't think you understand how people actually feel about this outside of a few places. Most people honestly don't care, like myself, but some people live in a completely different culture, and that's part of what America is. We have different cultures in different parts of America; and all those cultures have different beliefs. If you want to change that, you'll just piss off the cultures. That's part of what makes the world great, honestly.
No one has control over who they love. Straight people don't pull out a piece of paper, draw diagrams, and conclude "I'm going to be sexually attracted to brunettes" when they reach puberty. The same can be said for LGBT people. Their feelings generally develop at young ages, and aren't a deliberate choice on their part.Belthazar said:
There are plenty of examples of people incurring additional protections after birth. As a gun owner, you receive additional legal protections as soon as you purchase a weapon, yes? An individual also receives protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act once they become disabled. Even if individuals are not LGBT at the exact moment of birth, but instead develop into that group, then they still may receive legal protections nonetheless.
Belthazar said:
A vast majority of Americans, today, support the Civil Rights Act, which forbids businesses from discriminating on the basis of race at the federal level. (See title II)
Interestingly enough, Whites are more likely to support the act than Blacks. I suspect that there is a feeling that the law did not go quite far enough.
Belthazar said:
Yes, we totally choose to be discriminated against, executed, judged and bullied every day of our lives all because we want to be homosexual. 😛 Just recently I was at a Walmart and the lady in front of me was telling the cashier how she thought all gays should die, and that the Orlando shooting was completely justified. If I chose to be gay, I'm pretty sure with the vast majority of my town not exactly keen into the whole gay idea, I would have chosen to be straight long time ago. 😛 It's not like we choose to come out and then lose all of our family and friends. It's not like we choose to be disowned by the people who we once trusted. You have a family; most gay's lost their blood-line relatives once they came out gay. Thanksgiving and Christmas - not the same.
Yeah, we TOTALLY choose that lifestyle, and we're totally fine with living with the fact that we now have a giant target on our backs, and it's gotten to the point where people will actually kill you because of it.
My stance is relatively simple. I do not advocate for or against the principle of same-sex marriage. I am completely fine with it, so long as they do not...
A. Act unnecessarily obtuse or unusual, outside of the parameters that straight individuals act inside. Just because you like someone of the same gender doesn't mean that you need to change your voice, walk, or mannerisms.
B. Try to achieve special status. I've been puzzled by things like Pride Parade's - where's a Straight Parade? You say that you want the LGTB community to blend in, but are having it do things the straight community does not. This only distances yourself from societal norms.
Essentially, do your thing, if you like a girl, or a guy, I don't care. In the end, just don't involve me in it, or make a big show of it. 🙂
A. Act unnecessarily obtuse or unusual, outside of the parameters that straight individuals act inside. Just because you like someone of the same gender doesn't mean that you need to change your voice, walk, or mannerisms.
B. Try to achieve special status. I've been puzzled by things like Pride Parade's - where's a Straight Parade? You say that you want the LGTB community to blend in, but are having it do things the straight community does not. This only distances yourself from societal norms.
Essentially, do your thing, if you like a girl, or a guy, I don't care. In the end, just don't involve me in it, or make a big show of it. 🙂
Yes, why should we stop two people from being happy, simply because a few people disagree with it?
Clothes aren't natural, we aren't born wearing clothes - should clothes be made illegal as well because it 'isn't natural'? We could live without wearing clothes, it won't kill us. Yes they keep us warm, but so do blankets.
I disagree with religion but do you see me complain? Do you see me trying to ban people from going to church or any other place of worship for that matter? No, because it doesn't affect my life and I don't want to stop people from being happy because of my personal opinion.
Clothes aren't natural, we aren't born wearing clothes - should clothes be made illegal as well because it 'isn't natural'? We could live without wearing clothes, it won't kill us. Yes they keep us warm, but so do blankets.
I disagree with religion but do you see me complain? Do you see me trying to ban people from going to church or any other place of worship for that matter? No, because it doesn't affect my life and I don't want to stop people from being happy because of my personal opinion.
Dylan said:
I have 9 gay friends. They work full time. They all own or rent their own places. They all have cars. They all pay taxes. They are all United States Citizens. And most importantly, they are all good people. The only different between them and everyone else is the gender they are attracted too. That's the only difference. There is NO reason they should be prevented from marrying the person they love. Their marriage does not and will not affect your life in any way. To the people who think it's okay to tell others how to live there lives, have you ever met or talked to a gay person? Chances are you have. Many times... And didn't even know. You know why? Because they are just like the rest of us. Just trying to survive in our cruel and messed up world. There will come a time, not far off. Where Same Sex Marriage will be legal in every state and country in the world. Be on the side of history, not against it.
Dancing Mongoose 2
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Personally, I'm not for same-sex marriage for numerous reasons. I personally do not feel it's right in any way and it's again my religion. But, I'm not against it either.. It's a free world and people can do whatever they like. If same-sex marriage is what they want to do then why not?
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Simple answer: yes.
Why do I think so? I think every person should be able to marry the person they love, even if it's from the same gender. They don't harm other people with their sexuality and if you're offended then it's not their fault but yours.
Why do I think so? I think every person should be able to marry the person they love, even if it's from the same gender. They don't harm other people with their sexuality and if you're offended then it's not their fault but yours.
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