The Fall of Quality on DP

[coolframe]

hi,

I don't need to name the forum as I think everyone knows what DP is.

Anyway, I have to say that since their changes, wich were set to maximize the quality of the forum, DP has fallen deep in terms of quality in posts but also in workers that you can be found there, nowonder why know you see much more selling threads that buying threds (genuine ones).

I posted 2 jobs a couple of days ago, one abou graphics, some good jobs done so far and the over one about content and that's where it hurts.

I have receive about 20 offers from members, first, 17 of them are from India, 2 from Pakistan and one is French. So not a single one is able to do the job (one of the most easiest job ever), none of them have understood job main lines and some even did thig that I have never asked. Hardly believe they understand english.

DP are falling, they fail at keeping the "good" traffic and people, nowadays, most of them on there are just a bunch of people talikng rubish, prententing knowing everything when they actually don't know anything. Workers are cheap and unreliable.

On top, you receive insults whe you don't want to pay upfront to work with somone you don't even know and never worked with.

 

[JoshSmith]

PM me with whatever job this is.

Anyways, yea DP has certainly fallen off. They are all from other countries and dont understand English very well. Im not a big fan of the site anymore like I used to.

 

[Ashish92]

I don't want to spark any debate or such but you can't make any prejudice of people not able to understand English based on their location. To be honest I have found many native English speaking people who have wonky grammar but still have a lot of knowledge and do work perfectly.

On a side-note I can point out multiple errors in your post as well but leave it.

Basically more than anything else what matters is that if the description is precise and fully informative then the real people will have no problem in doing it.

Being a DP regular I must sat that the contest holders at times expect too much from others without giving any proper info.

And one more thing, If you want to enjoy the perks of open market business then you have to be ready to find what you need from a pile of garbage as well. If you don't want any sort of garbage then be ready to cough up money and find dedicated firms or people to do work for you.

And lastly they are not workers they are freelancers, as much as they do work for money and passion, they are even more so needed by the people who have tasks in their hand.

 

[CM30]

Ah DigitalPoint I assume? Yeah, I know what you mean by the fall of post quality there.

But I think I know why this has happened.

Basically, it fell into the usual webmaster forum 'trap' of not getting rid of fluff posters and the like as they registered. So what then happened is the posts stayed there, the knowledgeable people slowly thought the site wasn't worth their time and left and the leagues of scammers and 'SEO specialists' basically descended on the place like a horde of locsts.

That's nothing against anyone from a specific region like India or Pakistan either, the kind of fluff posting idiots that have plagued webmaster sites in recent history are from all over the world, and are simply misguided website owners who think that 'any old link on any site' is good SEO value and hence post in every bloody topic without actually having anything meaningful to say about it.

As for how the changes in the guidelines may have affected things... well, I guess the easy links and adsense sharing were pretty big draws to a certain crowd, so a couple of 'good' members might have been lost when they went too.

 

[coolframe]

My post has typos since it wasn't made from my computer, you compare when you know all details, else you just stay away.

As I said, because at the end you end up saying the same thing. Garbage and DP used to be much better than that and now it's all garbage, I agree for contest, you find some really good workl being made.

Actually reading your post, you are way out and obviously didn't get it either. Speaking english, even if you are not too good is one thing and I know that since I am not a natural english speaker. Understanding is another one. Some of my mates are horrible in french, still they are very good at many things because it's all about understanding and this is what this topic is about. They speak english but they don't understand it or one word over two. I don't care where they come from, as you may noticed I have included a french bloke and I ended up working with an Indian guy yet check below

Job line

minimum size is 500x500
but don't load things that are 3000x3000 either

now look at these images, they are from that guy I employed, just a couple over 25

http://coolfra.me/image/102.html
http://coolfra.me/image/93.html
http://coolfra.me/image/85.html
http://coolfra.me/image/88.html

and tell me these are over 500x500

we have discussed about it, I have sent him jolb lines, I asked him twice if he understood the job, I asked him if he has any questions about the job..... and yet, he missed it. It's not a big deal and I told him to be carefull for the next batch but this guy is the cleverer of all (25 applications in total)

one went into picking images in a catalog... for god sake, is that really hard to find images on internet but to find them in a catalog where only god knows where it was hidden

 

[Deathstarr]

I use to sell a lot of stuff on DP, but now not so much to cheap of people.

 

[Sam]

I hate that the marketplace is so dead compared with what it was. DP implemented the 3 likes policy and it completely killed their marketplace. What do likes have to do with reputation anyway?

 

[JLogan]

As someone located in the US, who sells services online, it's almost impossible to compete on the DP marketplace because its infested with low cost services. Luckily, I was able to get a very dedicate client off of digitalpoint, but out of the months I've been advertising there I've only been able to get one.

Like I said, not many Americans, UK, or Canadians are offering services there because you're competing with prices that are well ... unbeatable. I'm not willing to work for dirt prices, and I need to make money to pay bills.

These days, people are looking to pay for super cheap stuff even if it's crap. I'm not willing to put out crap ... that's why I charge a bit more than others.

 

[kavin]

Like I said, not many Americans, UK, or Canadians are offering services there because you're competing with prices that are well ... unbeatable. I'm not willing to work for dirt prices, and I need to make money to pay bills.

The reason for such low cost service is the exchange rate we Indians and our pakistani friends get for $'s. Its like, if you earn $10 a day, you will match the salary given by some of the leading software companies in India for freshers.

I myself knew i'm not good enough in English to do posting packages, so i opted to learn programming and be a freelance web developer. I wish my fellow Indians learn it someday and take some time to improve their skills before offering a service.

 

[coolframe]

That's the problem, though these guys are in need of work and cash to live and it's completly understable, the only thing is.... they dream becoming rich on internet and drive big cars.. attracting internet, but once you on the ride, you know that if you want cash, no choice, work hard. I found a designer last night on a contest, sent him $10 more than contest price.

You find some really cool people, it's not the problem but you have consider that DP is like an open market with everyone can come around and do their shopping negociating to the lowest. kind of aliexpress.com for webmasters, plenty of useless products and the few interesting ones cost more than in your local shop.

Anyway, I really wish DP to overcome that and get what they used to get but for now, I might only use it for contest.