The Forum Pyramid

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This is an idea which I've been thinking through lately. It's kind of like the food pyramid, but closer to the Maslow Hierarchy of Needs, which is an idea in sociology.

Anyway, here's the image I threw together in paint.

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Basically, when you first create a forum, you're on step one of the pyramid (which you can also think of as a ladder). As your forum improves, it works its way up the pyramid until it reaches the top, but the important aspect is that it has to move one step at a time. You can't just magically go from #1 to #6 (which is the top of the pyramid).

Here is a rough description of each step on the pyramid:

#1: Emptiness: This happens to any forum when it's started, or it's ignored long enough.

#2: Filler: This is the crap admins have to post to make their forum not look empty. Not real discussion, but it's 100% necessary.

#3: Discussion: These are the discussions which take place on most of our forums, including mine. Pretty interested, but no real disagreements. Generally everyone is happy, but also not too excited about the forum as a whole, at this stage.

#4: Debate: This is where it gets interesting. Members start disagreeing with each other, because they know each other well enough, and the forum is active enough, to support things other than merely "interesting" discussion.

#5: Drama: Once a forum moves beyond debate, it moves into "Drama." That's when a forum begins to have its own internal politics. Some people begin to dislike each other because of the debates from step #4, and people take sides. But also, people begin to show interest in the actual community itself, not just what's discussed on it. At this stage, the forum is truly going somewhere. If people care enough about a forum to get all worked up about it, then the forum must really matter.

#6: Community: This is what happens when the community finds balance, and has a healthy level of activity. It's possible to skip straight from #4 to #6, but it doesn't always happen. Also, if a forum looses balance, it falls back to #5 and everyone hates each other again. In #6, the forum is very active and people know each other pretty well. The staff team knows what they are doing, and everything is going pretty well. There's a little bit of controversy, but the community, as a whole, is pretty stable.

Note: In a large forum, different sections of the forum can be at different levels. Not really on a small forum, though.

What do you think? These are my observations from a limited number of forums I've been on. I may be completely wrong here, but I think there are some nuggets of truth here. What do you think?
 
The hardest part is to get into the 3 level of the pyramid, after that has been achieved your forum will start to bloom πŸ˜€
A very nice written explanation, this should help the new admins a lot. Its harder to start a forum than you might think πŸ˜€
 
Shole said:
The hardest part is to get into the 3 level of the pyramid, after that has been achieved your forum will start to bloom πŸ˜€
A very nice written explanation, this should help the new admins a lot. Its harder to start a forum than you might think πŸ˜€
Thanks!

So far, I'd say my forum is a 3. There's discussion, but not much debate. I'm still working on how to climb the pyramid, but I think 3 -> requires very good marketing and admins posting content which is deliberately in disagreement with members.
 
Cosmic said:
Shole said:
The hardest part is to get into the 3 level of the pyramid, after that has been achieved your forum will start to bloom πŸ˜€
A very nice written explanation, this should help the new admins a lot. Its harder to start a forum than you might think πŸ˜€
Thanks!

So far, I'd say my forum is a 3. There's discussion, but not much debate. I'm still working on how to climb the pyramid, but I think 3 -> requires very good marketing and admins posting content which is deliberately in disagreement with members.
I am on the 1st step I hope to get to the 3rd step fast πŸ˜€
Well to break it I think you need an active member base and a lot of new fiery discussions daily πŸ˜€
 
This is beautiful, Cosmic.

@Shole: I think #3 (Discussion) would be rather easy to get into, provided you've set things up right, have done your promoting, etc. It's getting into debate where members are actually continuing discussion with each other - and not with you as the admin or staff - that takes awhile.

The other tricky move is going from debate to community, and getting through drama in the process. I like how this is structured, because how that transition is handled is a real test for the forum and its staff. It can make or break a forum.
 
Geoffrey said:
This is beautiful, Cosmic.

@Shole: I think #3 (Discussion) would be rather easy to get into, provided you've set things up right, have done your promoting, etc. It's getting into debate where members are actually continuing discussion with each other - and not with you as the admin or staff - that takes awhile.

The other tricky move is going from debate to community, and getting through drama in the process. I like how this is structured, because how that transition is handled is a real test for the forum and its staff. It can make or break a forum.

Still its a thought job getting from 0 to hero πŸ˜€. I do understand that getting to the 3rd is somewhat easier than the last 3 , but still its thought to promote everywhere and do some work besides it πŸ˜€

But I do agree that the trickiest part is going from debate to community without failing to destroy the debate and going back to 0 πŸ™‚
 
I think that on some forums, community comes before debate and drama which can actually destroy a fine community.
 
Mobisco said:
I think that on some forums, community comes before debate and drama which can actually destroy a fine community.
Do you have any details on this? πŸ™‚
 
I see where you're coming from with the drama part, but I don't understand that. Many forums can have drama right as they start, and then die shortly after. I feel like to have an accurate 'Forum Pyramid' like this you would need to do months if not years of research. I like the concept but it is definitely flawed in more ways than one. (A+ for effort tho πŸ˜›)
 
kasem said:
I see where you're coming from with the drama part, but I don't understand that. Many forums can have drama right as they start, and then die shortly after. I feel like to have an accurate 'Forum Pyramid' like this you would need to do months if not years of research. I like the concept but it is definitely flawed in more ways than one. (A+ for effort tho πŸ˜›)
You're probably right about the research. πŸ˜›

What happens (according to this model) when a new forum has a lot of drama at the beginning is that, instead of the forum creating its own drama, another forum's drama is spilling over onto that forum. That means that another community's problems are just being hashed out on the forum, not that the forum has its own issues.
 
My forum, despite being two years old, is probably at stage three right now. It's not overly active (at least in comparison to FP) but it's nice, steady activity that's not so overwhelming yet. I realize I'll probably need more help when it does get to that point (especially when we enter the drama stage) but really, it's a bridge we'll cross when we come to it. When it comes to forums, I like a solid set of rules, but I'm also a "go with the flow" kind of person as well.
 
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