The problem with?

[Patrick S.]

I'm not seeing the problem here......
If someone pays $120+ for a program that codes WP themes.
But them make all the images.
How is that a bad thing?
People get the theme faster and the person gets his cash.
I use it when I'm busy but I see nothing wrong with it.
Please tell me why do you people think they should get free themes from a paid program?

Give me one good reason why this is wrong and no one should use it and I'll give you 100FP$!

 

[David]

Um...I think you need to provide a bit more context for this situation.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with it, from what you're saying.

 

[Patrick S.]

I have ran into 3 people.
I made the images they liked it.
BOOM someone said it was coded in a program they don't like it.

 

[David]

BOOM someone said it was coded in a program they don't like it.

What was coded (or designed?) in a program? Is the image some type of web design or web button?

From what I understand (in a very sketchy topic) is that you bought a WP designing program which designs WP themes, and so, you design a theme, attempt to sell it (or similar), and someone notes that it was designed in a WP program. Is that the gist of it?

 

[Patrick S.]

Close.
I make all the images(background, header, sidebar stuff, and ect).
I put the images in the program and I export it.
Same result as if hand coded.
I sell it they buy (which they must like if they buy).
But the moment they even think it's coded by a program BOOM they want no business even though they like the theme.

 

[D]

I don't see any problem with it. If the theme is nice, I like and want it then I will buy it regardless of who or what coded it.

 

[NaXuh]

I am assuming this program is Artisteer or a similar theme creator?

I think a lot of people don't like the program due to all of the themes have a similar look, even if the images are different. I personally don't like the look of themes like artisteer or other theme creator programs make.

 

[D]

I have ran into 3 people.
I made the images they liked it.
BOOM someone said it was coded in a program they don't like it.

I think he is saying they liked the theme at first then hated it after they knew it was coded by a program.

 

[Patrick S.]

@shadyx
yes why does it matter if they like it that's up to them.

@NaXuh
Okay lets say I made a really nice one you wouldn't even know it was made in a program would you still like it if found out it was?

@shadyx
yes.

 

[David]

I see now. Well, there really isn't anything wrong about it, but it's a bit misleading if you say you created the whole theme. The design is not the only aspect of a WordPress theme; the coding is also quite important.

 

[Patrick S.]

Yes I know that.
But if they like it would it matter?
It all matters if it works and looks good.

 

[NaXuh]

Well, if it was me and it was a great theme, yes. BUT, if you are saying you created the theme, then you are not telling the truth. You should say you designed the theme and coded it in [program name].

I would be mad if I bought the theme then found out it was a theme coded by a program when you didn't say so. 🙂.

 

[Nelson Noa]

You shouldn't use a program to code your themes it should be coded by you, programs use hook thus even though the theme will look different the html format and css will contain the same type of div.

For example a theme you make has custom div element such as (House, Dog, Water)

A program will use the same div in all themes.

Div (HeaderWP, FooterWP.)

It will also use the same source of code to code all the themes, thus the images are the different the code is similar in many ways, thus you should code it yourself.

when you code a theme it will be custom in all ways, even though users can't read code webmasters probably can and notice similarities in this theme generated in a program.

 

[Patrick S.]

How many people buy themes for the way the divs are made?
If I make a WP theme I always make the divs the same name it's easier to understand and quicker.

 

[D]

Most forum themes use the same source code with minor alterations unless you want it to look like something else. So why should it matter if a theme is made using a program?

It's like saying NO I DON'T WANT THAT THEME because it uses <div class="header">

How many people buy themes for the way the divs are made?
If I make a WP theme I always make the divs the same name it's easier to understand and quicker.

Exactly, I make all my themes with simaler div's. Go round most of the themes I have made and the welcome block above the forum list uses the exact same div but with css color and bg img alterations.

 

[Nelson Noa]

How many people buy themes for the way the divs are made?
If I make a WP theme I always make the divs the same name it's easier to understand and quicker.

Yes this is true, but if you notice some div change for example some themes include (Header) others (HeaderWIP) other include (HeadWP), let's say the program uses (HeadWP) when a person reads the head WP they will get the idea that it was coded by the program if it's popular if not they won't but that's not the point.

The point is that the program will code all it's theme with the same code and different images.

for example.


<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
body
{
background-color:#b0c4de; url('a different image')
}
</style>
</head>

<body>

<h1>hey</h1>
<p>hey</p>

</body>
</html>

________________________________________________________________________

<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
body
{
background-color:#b0c4de; url('a different image')
}
</style>
</head>

<body>

<h1>hey</h1>
<p>Hey</p>

</body>
</html>

______________________________________________

Here is a custom made theme


<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
body {background-image:url('wood.gif');}
</style>
</head>

<body>
<h1>Hey!</h1>
</body>

</html>

Same code different format! 😎 see how I changed format.

This is not the best sample but I hope you see what I mean.

 

[David]

Same code different format! 😎 see how I changed format.

This is not the best sample but I hope you see what I mean.

No one is going to not want a theme because it doesn't contain an extra blank line. In fact, designers and developers prefer to keep the div tags and structure similar so they can provide coding support to their clients, and their clients can go to WP support forums to get help. It really is a minor thing, if anyone would pick that out.

I think it's more of an ethical issue of whether you should be using a program and claiming it to be your work, completely. In terms of selling the theme, it really shouldn't matter, but remember, if clients don't want the theme for any reason, you can't force them to buy it. Just move on to other potential buyers.

 

[Patrick S.]

Yes shadyx/david.
I always use the same div's:
Header
Footer
Content
Nav
and ect

 

[Nelson Noa]

The point is that Glock knows how to code so if he wants to use a program is okay because he can give his customer support, and his a good coder thus why would it matter if he uses a program?

It would matter to someone like.... I don't know. Glock is an excellent coder he taught me a lot, thanks to him I became a coder in a day or two, Coding takes a long time and if we have programs why not let them help our coders, is like saying "you can't use a calculator because your not doing the math" well you know the math you just use the calculator to get the work done quicker, in my opinion designing a theme is just as complicated as coding it and doing one is sufficient.

 

[D]

You changed your view pretty quickly lmao