The risks of using a new hosting company

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Using a new hosting company is very risky, but there are a few things you can look out for. Here are some of the things I look for when choosing a host.

When did the hosting company start?
If the company started a few months ago, I'm not going to trust them as much as I trust a host that has been around for a decade. The long lasting host has already proven itself to be worthy of my hard earned cash. An older host can still randomly go bankrupt or experience technical difficulties, but at least they have the track record to work through any financial or tech problems that arise.

Is their customer service 24/7/365?
The last thing I want is to look for help and hear "I gotta go to school, I can help you when I'm back in 7 hours." A lot of newer hosts that pop up on forums are run by students or adults that are managing the service all on their own. A good host works around your schedule. As a client you should never have to work around a host's schedule to resolve issues on their end.

Uptime!
Uptime is very important. Good hosts that have been around for years can boast anywhere from 95%-99% uptime throughout all of those years. That's a much more reliable percentage than a host that has been around for 2 months with 99% uptime. One major issue with new hosts is that they may say 99%-100% uptime, but is there word 100% trustworthy? Who knows.

If you have 100% uptime, your site never goes down. If your site or host has 99.9% uptime that means your site might be down for around 44 minutes per month (a 30 day month). 90% uptime (it may sound acceptable, but it's not) means a site was down for 72 hours in a month.

Dedication
Long-term hosting companies have been around for so long that they most likely have investors, employees with a % of the company, and long lasting investments of their own. They own hundreds of servers, own or rent rack space and physical buildings for headquarters. Even if the CEO wanted to quit, they would have to go through a board, investors and tons of financial paperwork before they could close down the hosting company.

The new guy on the block can cancel their domain, hosting/reseller plan, and close down their hosting service without many repercussions. Due to the transactions being pretty low cost (a few bucks per month), most clients that get screwed over by a new host usually just let it go or plan revenge in other ways - Getting the bad host banned from forums and other sites... but nothing so bad that new hosts hesitate to close down their hosting company when they get bored (such as a lawsuit).

What you actually get
In most cases, new hosts are using a reseller plan from an already established host. You are not going to find many new hosts that have their own servers or rent rack space for powerful dedicated servers. Most new hosts are using reseller plans that simply allow them to sell shared hosting. Shared hosting is not crazily profitable and it relies on clients not using all of the disk space and bandwidth that they have allocated to their account.

Reseller accounts are also pretty limited. If I buy hosting from HostGator, I'm getting something different than if I buy hosting from one of their resellers. Resellers are responsible for managing their clients. So if a guy named Tom has a HostGator reseller account and I go to him, I have to ask Tom any questions I have. If Tom can't answer something, he goes to HostGator. Alternatively, I could get hosting directly from HostGator, have their (most likely) more experienced customer support and meet the requirements listed above for finding a host.

That's it. I hope you enjoyed my reasoning for why it is risky to use a new host. What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you agree with the risks in this thread, or think that new hosts are worth a shot? Share your opinions below 🙂 I used HostGator as an example, please don't go spamming this thread with links to your favorite or personal host.
 
Those are some great tips! Thanks for sharing them.

What are your thoughts on the matter.
Should be "What are your thoughts on the matter?". Just a little error I found! 😉
 
Your welcome! You bring out some very important points that host owners should know.
 
Just read this out of boredom and I'm glad I did! I don't think I ever would go with a newer host but I really never realized these types of points. Thank you for sharing, great work! 🙂
 
Teapot said:
Just read this out of boredom and I'm glad I did! I don't think I ever would go with a newer host but I really never realized these types of points. Thank you for sharing, great work! 🙂
You are welcome, I'm glad you ended up reading it!! Newer hosts scare me, I pretty much go with the same host every time I start a project.
 
Nice article!

That said, a cynic would also ask 'did the host suspiciously appear during the summer holidays?'

Because I hear quite a few fly by night hosts are set up by kids looking for a quick bit of pocket money during summer break then vanish afterwards.
 
I never actually took into account what the 99% ACTUALLY means, now I see why people complain about not having 99% uptime. All this time I just thought they were complaining for nothing. :lol:

And I think new hosts are not out of the picture, I am on a new host, (for free, unlimited everything) and the uptime has improved, and overall I could not be happier. I am reluctant on adding new things due to reliability, however it's proved that it can handle most of what I throw at it. The only thing I worry about is him not paying the bill and my site being shutdown. 😛

Thanks for the tips! And I have to agree, this is an awesome article. Things like this can easily be submitted to the blog and published. 😉
 
Thomasss said:
I never actually took into account what the 99% ACTUALLY means, now I see why people complain about not having 99% uptime. All this time I just thought they were complaining for nothing. :lol:

And I think new hosts are not out of the picture, I am on a new host, (for free, unlimited everything) and the uptime has improved, and overall I could not be happier. I am reluctant on adding new things due to reliability, however it's proved that it can handle most of what I throw at it. The only thing I worry about is him not paying the bill and my site being shutdown. 😛

Thanks for the tips! And I have to agree, this is an awesome article. Things like this can easily be submitted to the blog and published. 😉

Hahaha, I'm glad you brought up not knowing about what 99% uptime means because I did not realize that even 99.9% equates to 44 minutes of downtime before I put the numbers in the calculator. It's actually pretty interesting that even 95%+ uptime can still lead to significant downtime.

New hosts can definitely work out. I remember back in the early 2000s there were a lot of new hosts that were quite successful. The internet was still in its infancy, or maybe its teen years, so I'm sure most hosts were more dedicated than newer hosts in 2015, but my point is that not ALL new hosts are bad. Some are going to be great and others will fail.

As far as submitting this to the blog. Since it's a forum post, can I still submit it as an article? Around a day after I posted this I reread it and thought "Hmm, could have submitted this as an article and racked in some FP$". Hindsight kills!

My biggest advice for new hosts
If you are going to close down your hosting, don't screw over your clients. Do them the courtesy of giving them a few weeks notice or if that's not possible, give them as much notice as you can. If you are too embarrassed to give them notice, download all of your client files, upload them to a public file sharing site and email them the download links before you disappear. At least they'll have their hard work, even if you screw them over with their cash.
 
Ashley z said:
As far as submitting this to the blog. Since it's a forum post, can I still submit it as an article? Around a day after I posted this I reread it and thought "Hmm, could have submitted this as an article and racked in some FP$". Hindsight kills!


That would be something to ask [user]PoH[/user] about. 😉
 
Thomasss said:
Ashley z said:
As far as submitting this to the blog. Since it's a forum post, can I still submit it as an article? Around a day after I posted this I reread it and thought "Hmm, could have submitted this as an article and racked in some FP$". Hindsight kills!


That would be something to ask [user]PoH[/user] about. 😉

Done, thanks for your suggestions!
To get back on topic, what do you think some flaws of established hosting companies are Thomasss? Is there anything that a newer host can provide much more efficiently than a more well known host, such as one on one communications or more dedication from the staff?
 
I wished I read this before choosing this one host that was fairly new. Their servers kept shutting down, and their support was very slow. The only reason why I chose it because of their prices.... let's just say they were very cheap for what they offer.
 
Kopacetic said:
I wished I read this before choosing this one host that was fairly new. Their servers kept shutting down, and their support was very slow. The only reason why I chose it because of their prices.... let's just say they were very cheap for what they offer.

Everyone has to learn one way or another, right? Now you know and you won't make the same mistake again 🙂
A lot of people get hooked into new hosts because of pricing. It's often pretty low priced. The downside of that pricing is that in order for the host, or Reseller, to make money they have to find a bunch of new clients (at lower prices) to profit. It results in a higher chance of servers being overloaded, slow or crashing.
 
Great article Ashley. 😀 I always look into their uptime, support and reviews when choosing a host and I never go with new hosts because most new hosts don't provide 24/7 support which is quite important when things goes wrong. However I think it is also important to choose carefully when looking into established hosts because uptime and reliability can be bad regardless of them providing 24/7 support. I personally had a bad experience with a host. They had 24/7 support but uptime was horrible and they kept making rubbish excuses about their downtime. Their response time for support tickets is good but none of them helped and after 10 support tickets the problem is still not solved. They also seem to buy reviews as I seen a lot of positive reviews about them but my experience was very bad.

I guess a lot of people go with new hosts because of them being cheap but you get what you paid for so paying more for a more reliable host is worth it. When choosing a host, I think it is important to ask for other people's reviews on forums like Forum Promotion or maybe Web Hosting Stuff because some of the reviews on the internet might be fake so you are better off asking for people's opinions yourself rather than trust reviews online. Also, if you see a host with 100 positive and no negative reviews, that also seems fishy. I mean, a host could be good but there will be people with some bad experience. It is very hard to give everyone a good experience so that may mean the reviews are fake so you may need to be careful with that. That is my advice from my personal experience.
 
Not to mention, the hassle of setting up everything else. That's why I think that you need to pick a good host for you from the start.
 
MasterA said:
I guess a lot of people go with new hosts because of them being cheap but you get what you paid for so paying more for a more reliable host is worth it. When choosing a host, I think it is important to ask for other people's reviews on forums like Forum Promotion or maybe Web Hosting Stuff because some of the reviews on the internet might be fake so you are better off asking for people's opinions yourself rather than trust reviews online.

Yeah a lot of newer hosts offer ridiculously low plans. Unmetered Disk Space/Bandwidth for $1 a month is ludicrous. I wish new hosts would make realistically priced packages so that newer webmasters don't fall for the low prices.

Do you think Forum Promotion would ever have a section for reviewing hosting companies? It would be pretty helpful.
 
Ashley z said:
MasterA said:
I guess a lot of people go with new hosts because of them being cheap but you get what you paid for so paying more for a more reliable host is worth it. When choosing a host, I think it is important to ask for other people's reviews on forums like Forum Promotion or maybe Web Hosting Stuff because some of the reviews on the internet might be fake so you are better off asking for people's opinions yourself rather than trust reviews online.

Yeah a lot of newer hosts offer ridiculously low plans. Unmetered Disk Space/Bandwidth for $1 a month is ludicrous. I wish new hosts would make realistically priced packages so that newer webmasters don't fall for the low prices.

Do you think Forum Promotion would ever have a section for reviewing hosting companies? It would be pretty helpful.

We had a review section as a sub forum to the Hosting Discussion forum in the past but due to little interest in leaving reviews, we removed it. If you would like to leave a review, you can use the Hosting Discussion forum (this forum) and if you want to search for reviews, you can use the search system: search.php and choose Search in Hosting Discussion forum. We have quite a few reviews in this forum but not too many at the moment.
 
MasterA said:
We had a review section as a sub forum to the Hosting Discussion forum in the past but due to little interest in leaving reviews, we removed it. If you would like to leave a review, you can use the Hosting Discussion forum (this forum) and if you want to search for reviews, you can use the search system: search.php and choose Search in Hosting Discussion forum. We have quite a few reviews in this forum but not too many at the moment.

Ah, sounds like it didn't work out that great. I might write a review in the future, thanks for letting me know where I should put it 🙂
 
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