There are jobs. Nobody will do them!
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That’s about $600 a week before taxes, so maybe $2400 a month. You could make it last if you’re single or independent, but not if you have a family and kids.
That’s about $600 a week before taxes, so maybe $2400 a month. You could make it last if you’re single or independent, but not if you have a family and kids.
Well, that's just the way it is! I don't think it gets much better for someone with no education in Tennessee. Therefore, it would be advisable for such a person to invest in a business on the side.
I understand your point but from my standpoint those would not be an issue for me if I lived in the states.
I know it might sound like a good job, but there are costs that come with it. Hidden ones you might not realise which make it unappealing to loads of people.
I worked in a factory, doing shift work, for a summer during university. I didn't make fantastic money (it was above minimum wage by about $2). But the toll on the body was high. I was drinking about a gallon of water a shift because the department I worked in was extremely hot and we were expected to be constantly moving. (I would point out that I was sweating most of that water out... ) It was hard work and was pretty easy to get injured.
We worked 12 hour shifts on top of that. And our shifts switched every few days. So it'd be like 3 night shifts then 2 days off then 2 dayshifts. Because of the wonky schedule you'd end up losing days because you'd get off work at like 7am for your "day off" but end up sleeping through most of it (say sleep until 1-2pm and get up to start your day and be tired/useless all day) meanwhile trying to readjust the sleep cycle for your upcoming dayshift.
Sleeping during the day was pretty tough, people were active and around. Noise levels were higher. Someone was always mowing a lawn. (Probably wouldn't have been as bad in the winter.) And nobody respected the fact that you had to sleep. So it was entirely possible to end up getting woken up throughout the day and then being tired all night because not enough sleep.
When I was done it took me months to get back into a normal rhythm of when to get up and when to go to bed. And yeah, the money was ok but nothing special.
So for others? I can easily understand why they might not want to do that kind of job.
If shift work is involved it really screws with a sleep schedule, you lose days to trying to switch over. Your family/friends will hate you on those days. You won't be able to do well on those days at all. Which means if you have other duties/hobbies/interests they might have to take a backseat. Or it can be hard to fit them in. Say you have a child... it's tough to explain to them why they can't make noise during the day. Or why they can't play with their parent.
Even at $15 an hour that's not even that great for pay. (About 31,000 per year before taxes.) Even with a pay of like $15 it can be extremely hard to get ahead. Living on your own gets expensive in a hurry. (There are loads of costs that crop up aside from obvious ones like rent. Like if you have to buy your own furniture.) Sure if you live with family/friends you can likely get ahead if you're very careful with your money. But it's all too easy to run into issues. And of course not all states/locations have cheap places to rent. Where I live it's uncommon to find a decent place to live for less than $800-1000 a month*. (Which even if you make 2400 a month, which you wouldn't get because of taxes, you're losing between a third and almost half right off the bat. You still need your food costs, phone bill, internet bill if you plan to have internet, and any vehicle costs like insurance or fuel to come out of that too.)
*You can sometimes find places for less... but they're often not places you'd really want to live. These are the high crime areas or remote locations with no transit support.
Plus in this day and age there is no such thing as job security. Technology is advancing quite rapidly and robots have come a long way. There might not be a need for a human to sweep floors at some places... they might just let the industrial roomba go. (It vacuums stuff up, returns to the charge base/trash bin and dumps contents.) So many people aren't interested in trying to start a career at a place that, in all probability, will cut them loose the second they can to save a few bucks.
But even despite that there will always be people who will do the job. It might not be a good fit for everyone, but people will do it. Some will use it as a stepping stone to get to that better job. Others will stick with it because they are trapped or don't want to change.
I worked in a factory, doing shift work, for a summer during university. I didn't make fantastic money (it was above minimum wage by about $2). But the toll on the body was high. I was drinking about a gallon of water a shift because the department I worked in was extremely hot and we were expected to be constantly moving. (I would point out that I was sweating most of that water out... ) It was hard work and was pretty easy to get injured.
We worked 12 hour shifts on top of that. And our shifts switched every few days. So it'd be like 3 night shifts then 2 days off then 2 dayshifts. Because of the wonky schedule you'd end up losing days because you'd get off work at like 7am for your "day off" but end up sleeping through most of it (say sleep until 1-2pm and get up to start your day and be tired/useless all day) meanwhile trying to readjust the sleep cycle for your upcoming dayshift.
Sleeping during the day was pretty tough, people were active and around. Noise levels were higher. Someone was always mowing a lawn. (Probably wouldn't have been as bad in the winter.) And nobody respected the fact that you had to sleep. So it was entirely possible to end up getting woken up throughout the day and then being tired all night because not enough sleep.
When I was done it took me months to get back into a normal rhythm of when to get up and when to go to bed. And yeah, the money was ok but nothing special.
So for others? I can easily understand why they might not want to do that kind of job.
If shift work is involved it really screws with a sleep schedule, you lose days to trying to switch over. Your family/friends will hate you on those days. You won't be able to do well on those days at all. Which means if you have other duties/hobbies/interests they might have to take a backseat. Or it can be hard to fit them in. Say you have a child... it's tough to explain to them why they can't make noise during the day. Or why they can't play with their parent.
Even at $15 an hour that's not even that great for pay. (About 31,000 per year before taxes.) Even with a pay of like $15 it can be extremely hard to get ahead. Living on your own gets expensive in a hurry. (There are loads of costs that crop up aside from obvious ones like rent. Like if you have to buy your own furniture.) Sure if you live with family/friends you can likely get ahead if you're very careful with your money. But it's all too easy to run into issues. And of course not all states/locations have cheap places to rent. Where I live it's uncommon to find a decent place to live for less than $800-1000 a month*. (Which even if you make 2400 a month, which you wouldn't get because of taxes, you're losing between a third and almost half right off the bat. You still need your food costs, phone bill, internet bill if you plan to have internet, and any vehicle costs like insurance or fuel to come out of that too.)
*You can sometimes find places for less... but they're often not places you'd really want to live. These are the high crime areas or remote locations with no transit support.
Plus in this day and age there is no such thing as job security. Technology is advancing quite rapidly and robots have come a long way. There might not be a need for a human to sweep floors at some places... they might just let the industrial roomba go. (It vacuums stuff up, returns to the charge base/trash bin and dumps contents.) So many people aren't interested in trying to start a career at a place that, in all probability, will cut them loose the second they can to save a few bucks.
But even despite that there will always be people who will do the job. It might not be a good fit for everyone, but people will do it. Some will use it as a stepping stone to get to that better job. Others will stick with it because they are trapped or don't want to change.
I think the thing is a scam. Basically, they just bring in people and weed out the weaker ones. So that's why there is the "Help Wanted" sign on all the time.
Anyway, though, I don't think the work at the factory could be tougher than the Marine Corps. I think basically a lot of people are just not tough not enough. What do you all think?
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