agentmanningctu
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Pass me a gun. The US health care reform passed.
Well, it passed
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It'd be exciting if the bill hadn't been watered down so much.
agentmanningctu
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Why are we spending time and money on this? We need to get jobs back first. This can wait.
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The United States has a worse health care system than Cuba and Chile. That seems like a pretty big problem to me.
agentmanningctu
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How many businesses will suffer here? That leads to MORE lost jobs, more bankruptcies, etc. Downward spiral.
agentmanningctu
My Posts = Jack Bauer's Kills
Me? Or is there a real pastor named Manning?
Considering the amount of small businesses already extremely far behind on their bills, this isn't going to help anyone short term. It will actually cause more problems short term, and could potentially cause major issues long term if the winds blow the wrong way.
The long term goal is to have businesses adjust to it, and be able to provide decent health care to employees. That's perfectly fine, and 8 years ago it would have worked well.
That said, short term this is going to be the finial nail in the coffin for a good number of small businesses. All the work Obama has done to "save" them will have been wasted, and without these small people willing to try new things, the banks will have no one to invest in, which means a frozen economy for the rest of the nation.
Obama has stated that this will not help short term, he realizes what will happen with this. The issue is that it's grown too strong for him, he's built it up to be too much in people's mind. This is a monster he's created, and when monster kills man I won't have any grief.
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The long term goal is to have businesses adjust to it, and be able to provide decent health care to employees. That's perfectly fine, and 8 years ago it would have worked well.
That said, short term this is going to be the finial nail in the coffin for a good number of small businesses. All the work Obama has done to "save" them will have been wasted, and without these small people willing to try new things, the banks will have no one to invest in, which means a frozen economy for the rest of the nation.
Obama has stated that this will not help short term, he realizes what will happen with this. The issue is that it's grown too strong for him, he's built it up to be too much in people's mind. This is a monster he's created, and when monster kills man I won't have any grief.
@agent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_David_Manning
cityStatic
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I burst out laughing.agentmanningctu said:
*passes agent a very, very, very large gun*
🙂
The worst case scenario from this bill is:
1. Insurance costs skyrocket.
2. Due to this, no one buys insurance.
3. As no one has insurance, people start going to the emergency rooms, where they have to receive care.
4. Hospitals, which have to give them "phr33 c4r3" are forced to close.
Not only is this a bad bill designed to intentionally crush the private health industry through regulations and forcing companies to take on patients who are going to die in a week, but the methods used to pass it are a shame to this country. Back room deals like that should be confined to Chicago and totalitarian dictatorships, not "republics". Despite the polls (most recent: 11% approve, 64% against), they still passed it, and it would have been impossible without the byzantine politics implemented by Obama and Pelosi.
🙂
The worst case scenario from this bill is:
1. Insurance costs skyrocket.
2. Due to this, no one buys insurance.
3. As no one has insurance, people start going to the emergency rooms, where they have to receive care.
4. Hospitals, which have to give them "phr33 c4r3" are forced to close.
Not only is this a bad bill designed to intentionally crush the private health industry through regulations and forcing companies to take on patients who are going to die in a week, but the methods used to pass it are a shame to this country. Back room deals like that should be confined to Chicago and totalitarian dictatorships, not "republics". Despite the polls (most recent: 11% approve, 64% against), they still passed it, and it would have been impossible without the byzantine politics implemented by Obama and Pelosi.
cityStatic
Seasoned Veteran
In 2014, but keep not actually paying attention to everything else this bill has to offer, like free health care for poor adults, and Dependants can stay on the adult's health care plan until 26. :great:Dragoth said:
cityStatic
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And might I add that that wasn't the health care reform bill, it was only H.R.3590.
People complaining about people getting a free ride need to realize that this already happens. Sure people won't get free checkups, but you're BSing if you're saying hospitals don't get tons of people without healthcare in critical conditions that can't pay the bill. Sure they harass them later, but in the end it costs the rests anyway.
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