What is Anonymous?

InfiniteJest said:
The Hat Tipper said:
InfiniteJest said:
The Hat Tipper said:
:lol: ok just don't get obsessed with them. If you'd like to continue this you can send me a PM but I have stated my point that they are little kids 🙂 And I am good.

>Make unfounded statements
>Someone refutes them
>Assert your position as correct
>Be proven wrong with facts
>CUT AND RUN
I'm not cutting and running. I asked you if you wanted to continue this to PM me. Which you have not done :yes: and probably will not :rofl:

I see no point. The entire basis of your argument has been "They're little kids" although there are numerous events to indicate otherwise. DDoS attacks of Tumblr, the RIAA, the Australian Government, the Church of Scientology, and the Westboro Baptist Church to name a few. Not to mention they're a prime suspect in the recent hacking of Sony's Playstation Network. Oh, also note their involvement in the WikiLeaks controversy, recent middle east uprisings, and several cases of animal abuse.

There is quite literally no point to arguing with you as thats like trying to convince someone you need oxygen to breathe. Its horribly obvious how true the facts are, but they refuse to accept it out of some personal choice of ignorance.

You're making a fool of yourself.

I totally agree with you. THT you just don't seem to understand what these people are capable of.
 
Anyone who thinks anon hacked PSN is a fool. If you use the tiniest bit of brain power its obvious someone else chose this time to hack their insecure network for free identity theft while everyone else things its anon, oh gawd anon what will we do of course it must be them and geohot did it lets kill them unamerican bastards who exploit our poor corporations.

Anon isn't interested in FP, or at least it wasn't. I've seen it discussed on 1&2 sites before and wasn't much interest in anything. Not enough lulz to be had here. People make misinformed comments everywhere, the chance of lulz happening is very low so I don't think THT is endangering the site at all.

Still they're far from little kids, THT thinks they're a script kiddie group when he doesn't understand anon is a philosophy, not a group if you really think about it, anyone can be an anon. That's like saying all americans are rednecks that want to string up black people. Generalization is dangerous. Now I'll stop before going into goodwin's law territory lol.
 
Gimgak said:
Anyone who thinks anon hacked PSN is a fool. If you use the tiniest bit of brain power its obvious someone else chose this time to hack their insecure network for free identity theft while everyone else things its anon, oh gawd anon what will we do of course it must be them and geohot did it lets kill them unamerican bastards who exploit our poor corporations.

Anon isn't interested in FP, or at least it wasn't. I've seen it discussed on 1&2 sites before and wasn't much interest in anything. Not enough lulz to be had here. People make misinformed comments everywhere, the chance of lulz happening is very low so I don't think THT is endangering the site at all.

Still they're far from little kids, THT thinks they're a script kiddie group when he doesn't understand anon is a philosophy, not a group if you really think about it, anyone can be an anon. That's like saying all americans are rednecks that want to string up black people. Generalization is dangerous. Now I'll stop before going into goodwin's law territory lol.

HITLER. GAME OVER.
 
damn it dude this discussion is now moot 🙁

And on a slightly unrelated note I'm going to be a masshole for only 2 more days :cry:
 
Gimgak said:
damn it dude this discussion is now moot 🙁

And on a slightly unrelated note I'm going to be a masshole for only 2 more days :cry:

Whaaaat. where are you moving to?
 
Florida, houses way cheaper there, hopefully be back in mass for college though, except that'd be like winning the lottery since I want to go to MIT lol.

But to stay on sorta topic, heard some people in Florida already got arrested in connection to the sony scandal.
 
Gimgak said:
Florida, houses way cheaper there, hopefully be back in mass for college though, except that'd be like winning the lottery since I want to go to MIT lol.

But to stay on sorta topic, heard some people in Florida already got arrested in connection to the sony scandal.

Come to UMass Amherst! We can be neighbors!!! lol
 
Haha quite a few people from my school are going there. Aiming for the best though for now at least as I want to major in Computer Science lol.
 
Dy.namik said:
The Hat Tipper said:
Really? They are just some people who use torrents too much. Nothing more, they honestly mean nothing to me. It is just as if the pre-school got computers.

These "little kids" have access to everyones address, credit card details, birth dates, passwords, etc. As stated by CNN news.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gad ... index.html

These "little kids" have managed to keep a huge network down for more than 1 week.

I think these guys are serious.
Anonymous didn't do that. The hacking they did was completely legal, as it was Sony's personal problem. The hack right now is illegal, as it threatens the privacy and personal details of people worldwide.
 
Guys, while I respect the debate going on here, there's also a bunch of arguing going on as well. Let's keep it Civil please.
 
Inifnite, I think what BB means is to stop being stupid and annoying. Just like what you're all doing right now.

Now, here's my point:

Anonymous isn't a large, huge group of hackers who can stop the world. I agree that they're not "kids". But they can be. Anonymous isn't an official group, it's just a group made up of people who like doing bad things. Anyone can join, whenever they want. When you say "Anonymous hacked that.", you're talking about millions of people, not just a group of people that work together.

Second, Anonymous isn't that big in hacking, sure some DDoS attacks on big places, some illegal actions, but that's it. All of you are scared Anonymous did the huge PSN network hack, but they did not do that. They're not so stupid to do that. First of all, that is endangering all of the world's personal information, and their privacy. Including the people of Anonymous themselves, one member of Anonymous could totally exploit their "plan" even if they had one, by just going into the hacked database, and stealing every single piece of information. Second, Anonymous is a large group of people, if the FBI of the U.S. were to track one of these group leaders, every single person in the whole Anonymous group, including those who say they are in the group when they are actually not, will get arrested for taking part.

I agree Anonymous isn't something small, but, it isn't that big either.
 
Derp said:
Inifnite, I think what BB means is to stop being stupid and annoying. Just like what you're all doing right now.

Now, here's my point:

Anonymous isn't a large, huge group of hackers who can stop the world. I agree that they're not "kids". But they can be. Anonymous isn't an official group, it's just a group made up of people who like doing bad things. Anyone can join, whenever they want. When you say "Anonymous hacked that.", you're talking about millions of people, not just a group of people that work together.

Second, Anonymous isn't that big in hacking, sure some DDoS attacks on big places, some illegal actions, but that's it. All of you are scared Anonymous did the huge PSN network hack, but they did not do that. They're not so stupid to do that. First of all, that is endangering all of the world's personal information, and their privacy. Including the people of Anonymous themselves, one member of Anonymous could totally exploit their "plan" even if they had one, by just going into the hacked database, and stealing every single piece of information. Second, Anonymous is a large group of people, if the FBI of the U.S. were to track one of these group leaders, every single person in the whole Anonymous group, including those who say they are in the group when they are actually not, will get arrested for taking part.

I agree Anonymous isn't something small, but, it isn't that big either.
lol so i assume you understand nothing about anonymous then. If the FBI were to track and arrest every anon then they'd further prove that they're nothing more than a continuation of SS :lol:.

What "leaders" do you speak of? ROFL



JosephC said:
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Scientology is a brainwashing cult, your point?
 
Gimgak said:
Derp said:
Inifnite, I think what BB means is to stop being stupid and annoying. Just like what you're all doing right now.

Now, here's my point:

Anonymous isn't a large, huge group of hackers who can stop the world. I agree that they're not "kids". But they can be. Anonymous isn't an official group, it's just a group made up of people who like doing bad things. Anyone can join, whenever they want. When you say "Anonymous hacked that.", you're talking about millions of people, not just a group of people that work together.

Second, Anonymous isn't that big in hacking, sure some DDoS attacks on big places, some illegal actions, but that's it. All of you are scared Anonymous did the huge PSN network hack, but they did not do that. They're not so stupid to do that. First of all, that is endangering all of the world's personal information, and their privacy. Including the people of Anonymous themselves, one member of Anonymous could totally exploit their "plan" even if they had one, by just going into the hacked database, and stealing every single piece of information. Second, Anonymous is a large group of people, if the FBI of the U.S. were to track one of these group leaders, every single person in the whole Anonymous group, including those who say they are in the group when they are actually not, will get arrested for taking part.

I agree Anonymous isn't something small, but, it isn't that big either.
lol so i assume you understand nothing about anonymous then. If the FBI were to track and arrest every anon then they'd further prove that they're nothing more than a continuation of SS :lol:.

What "leaders" do you speak of? ROFL



JosephC said:
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Scientology is a brainwashing cult, your point?

I know about all their attacks, and I know they are very dangerous and critical. But, most of those were designating on one target, not the whole world.
All right, let's say it's like that. But, if Anon were to hack Sony, they would totally destroying their motive stated in previous videos. Their motive was to show the world that freedom should not be limited, and that they would punish those who did that. Their motive was not to hack the database of the PSN and take every user's personal information.

The "leaders" I speak of, are the people who founded Anon, assuming they should be called "leaders." My point is, if the government. gets a hold of one of the people who help Anon the most, Anon could screwed up.
 
well yeah its obviously not anon that did that, of course right now i could say im anon and anon is posting this post, anyone can say they're anon. That's why there are no leaders, just leaders for specific operations. Anon is completely decentralized.
 
i dont like hackers but i do hate sony. they are a greed filled corporation who try to get their hands on as much cash as possible ( iwouldnt mind this normally seeing as thats what a lot of corporations are, but their consoles arent made to last and they have made games where they can only be played on one computer, so you would have to buy another copy if the pc broke) then again stealing peoples credit card info is a bit out of order.
 
Why? Sony is amazing. You wanna talk about greed.. There's a ton we can go into about that 😉
 
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