What should be done about the homeless?
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Give them an place to live and to keep warm, Help them to get back on there feet and also get them to earn or work. Yet again there are some homless people that doesn't want help and rather stay homless
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If people become homeless due to family issues or even by their partners, then I feel for them (and I knew one that was like this in the past). However, if people become homeless from their own recklessness such as drink and drugs then well, I can't say much.
We have a lot of homeless people where I'm from and what we do is send them back home. People think they can come here to Hawaii and it's just as easy to survive here as it is on the mainland. It's not. So they become homeless and they are given one-way tickets home.
The cost of living there is very high - but at least the homeless don't have to deal with cold weather - only rain.
But I don't see how this fixes anything. Just moving someone without a home from place to place isn't going to help them out. Where would "home" really be?
One tickets home and what? All that's doing is dumping their problem on California or whoever.
What to do depends on the circumstances that lead to them becoming homeless. Truth is there is no real one easy fix method.
Someone who is homeless due to a catastrophic breakdown of their life (ex- sudden job loss and debt piling up) is likely to be helped far differently than someone who is addicted to drugs. So the first step is to determine why they are homeless. Then come up with a strategy to help them individually. This is going to be far slower and way more expensive than any kind of band-aid fix like giving them all a place to live. But it will be far better for society (and those affected) in the long term.
So for example, the person who is homeless because of sudden debt might be helped by providing a temporary place to stay, get cleaned up, get a bit of food, time to update their resume to get a new job and meeting with a debt specialist/financial planner.
However, it's worth noting that there will still be some people who simply cannot be helped. Either due to the fact they don't want it (too proud) or they simply can't make whatever changes would be needed (ex- a person who keeps going back to drugs). I'm perfectly fine with not giving them any more help. They made their choice and now they have to live with their decisions.
Someone who is homeless due to a catastrophic breakdown of their life (ex- sudden job loss and debt piling up) is likely to be helped far differently than someone who is addicted to drugs. So the first step is to determine why they are homeless. Then come up with a strategy to help them individually. This is going to be far slower and way more expensive than any kind of band-aid fix like giving them all a place to live. But it will be far better for society (and those affected) in the long term.
So for example, the person who is homeless because of sudden debt might be helped by providing a temporary place to stay, get cleaned up, get a bit of food, time to update their resume to get a new job and meeting with a debt specialist/financial planner.
However, it's worth noting that there will still be some people who simply cannot be helped. Either due to the fact they don't want it (too proud) or they simply can't make whatever changes would be needed (ex- a person who keeps going back to drugs). I'm perfectly fine with not giving them any more help. They made their choice and now they have to live with their decisions.
That's California's problem. The point is we have a homeless problem of our own. We shouldn't have to take care of other people's problems, too. They get a one-way ticket home, something the majority of them want but obviously cannot afford, and whatever they do from there is up to them. They were guests in the first place, not residents.
Homeless people do not have a home. That’s kind of like what makes them homeless, by definition. You can’t send them “home” because they don’t have one.
What if California decided to send them back to Hawaii? Does that make it Hawaii’s problem? These people are not all native Californians. This is everyone’s problem, because people lose their homes everywhere. If someone born in Hawaii loses their home, what should be done to help them? Send them to California... because... california?
I'm not the government and I'm guessing neither are you. This is not up to us. This is the system and it seems to be working just fine. We have a lot of homeless people but it's not overcrowded with people that don't belong here. Maybe there was a misunderstanding somewhere but let me be clear, the people we send back WANT to go home. They don't have a home here because they can't afford it, but they have a home or family somewhere else. These are the people that sadly couldn't hack it out here.
On a side note, people just seem to think we're paradise so they make the decision to move here. To live in paradise you have to pay for paradise. If you can't afford to live in Hawaii, don't come. If you think $10 for a jug of milk, $8 for bread or $5 for a gallon of regular gas is expensive, don't come. A lot of people that move here think we offer mainland prices. We don't. These are islands. That should have been the first flag.
And if for some reason someone from Hawaii becomes homeless on the mainland(LOL!!!) I would hope the government there would be nice enough to send them home. It's an awesome program offered here. But I doubt Hawaiian people add to the homeless problem anywhere but Hawaii. Most natives stay here, we don't leave "the rock". If we leave we go to family or places we can afford. If we can't afford it any longer we fly home. We've been raised a COMPLETELY different way than most. We pinch pennies and have resources to help us when down. Family is a huge thing here, it doesn't just consist of people that are blood related to you, and family is always willing to help.
On a side note, people just seem to think we're paradise so they make the decision to move here. To live in paradise you have to pay for paradise. If you can't afford to live in Hawaii, don't come. If you think $10 for a jug of milk, $8 for bread or $5 for a gallon of regular gas is expensive, don't come. A lot of people that move here think we offer mainland prices. We don't. These are islands. That should have been the first flag.
And if for some reason someone from Hawaii becomes homeless on the mainland(LOL!!!) I would hope the government there would be nice enough to send them home. It's an awesome program offered here. But I doubt Hawaiian people add to the homeless problem anywhere but Hawaii. Most natives stay here, we don't leave "the rock". If we leave we go to family or places we can afford. If we can't afford it any longer we fly home. We've been raised a COMPLETELY different way than most. We pinch pennies and have resources to help us when down. Family is a huge thing here, it doesn't just consist of people that are blood related to you, and family is always willing to help.
fantanoice
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Give them a home and basic income
Where do they belong?
They don't have a home, they're homeless for a reason.
Maybe that's not an option for them.
Some parts of the US are just as expensive, and they don't want to remove the homeless. They try to assist them with programs.
This is just an example based on Honolulu.
Clothing is a big one here, as are shoes and food. None perishable items are always in short supply at food pantries and homeless shelters. Other items that might be needed include blankets, coats, books and small kitchen items, such as cups and utensils. If you are donating to a homeless shelter or another organisation that helps the homeless, consider donating office supplies, electronics, appliances, phone cards or other items that might help those who help the homeless. If you see someone who is homeless in winter, offer blankets, food or tarps (if you can't convince them to go to a shelter).
But Hawaii isn't a separate nation, only a state. Anyway, I won't get into pro-independence arguments, but that's the way it is now.
OK, I would favor independence for Hawaii, but that's off-topic.
fantanoice
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