naughtymonkey
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Where Do We Go When We Die?
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At the center of most religions is the promise of life after death. The basic belief is that if you live a good life, then you will make it into heaven, reach nirvana, or go wherever it is your religion says you are going. However, some religions want extra contribution in order for you to have a good afterlife. In Islam, you have to pray toward Mecca five times a day, and in Catholicism, you have to go to church every Sunday. While many of these practices differ greatly and seem to have nothing in common, they are actually common practices to help ensure your path toward life after death.
Each individual has a different spiritual objective, in regards to the afterlife. For instance, a Buddhist hopes to reach nirvana, a spiritual state where one exists in perfect peace. On the other hand, a Muslim or a Christian hopes to enter heaven and spend eternity singing hymns of God’s greatness. Atheists expect nothing more than oblivion. In one minority religion known as Nogardian Spiritualism, individuals believe their will “ascend.”
Ascension is the act of transforming into a purely spiritual being which then resides on a higher plane of existence. Ascension is an evolution of the soul into a purely spiritual entity, independent of the physical body. When a person ascends, their physical body may either morph into a non-corporeal being or it may just die off, leaving the soul stranded somewhere between the physical world and the spiritual world.
No one knows what truly happens after death. Whether we become beautiful angles or become reincarnated as cows or pass into oblivion is scientifically unapproachable and completely theoretical, either developed through transcendental thought or through some religious experience.
As far as we know, scientifically, the heart stops pumping blood to the organs within our body and our brain slowly shuts down. Oxygen is no longer being carried to the brain via the bloodstream. As an individual’s brain begins to die, humans experience a “tunneling” affect, where one’s “vision” is narrowed toward a long dark tunnel with a light toward the end. Individuals who have had these “Near Death Experiences” report re-living parts of their lives or seeing loved one’s that have died before them. Two possibilities arise: individuals experience what they expect due to the dramatic nature of the event or this is the natural “shutting down” of the brain, similar to a computer’s shut down sequence. After the brain has shut down, there may be absolutely nothing.
It is a little unsettling to embrace the fact that nothing may happen once we die. The idea that we cease to exist entirely leaves us uncomfortable. To comfort ourselves, we developed these religious ideas of the afterlife. Because religious ideas of the afterlife vary greatly, no single religion could possibly be the “correct one.” After all, why would the divine chose to reveal themselves to one individual in the thousands of years of man’s existence?
From a personal stand point, I chose to embrace oblivion, ascension, and anything in between. Individuals who live mundane lives and chose to ignore spirituality entirely end their existence at death; however, those of us who embrace religious beliefs and chose to believe in something greater than ourselves live on. It does not matter which religious path we follow, so long as we follow a good and descent belief system, implying the golden rule of
“harm none” and a positive religious environment void of any sinister acts or hierarchical corruption.
Attaining a place in “heaven” is far from securing a divine role in the afterlife. To ascend, one must go above and beyond the lengths of being spiritually good and descent. One must set themselves apart, somehow, to be recognized by the powers that be as an outstanding individual. While this is speculation on my part, I believe that our worldly deeds as individuals reflects our spiritual well-being, and if we come up short upon death, we may end up with nothing or not enough, falling short of our goals for the afterlife.
Theravada Buddhists believe that an individual earns his or her way into heaven through boun. Boun is the manifestation of all the good you have done in your life. The more boun you have, the more likely you are to reach nirvana. Therefore, boun might be described as the exact opposite of sin. Boun has a quantitative value, although unknown to the individual exactly how much boun is rewarded for certain duties, and is basically a spiritual currency.
Individuals have also accepted a list of morals, depending on their faith, which would earn them a place in heaven, such as the Ten Commandments, the Middle Way, the Five Pillars of Islam, the Beatitudes, the Seven Deadly Sins, and so on. While all of these differ greatly, the basics of each can be summed up quote easily: (1) Do not harm others and (2) Be generous and help others.
But whatever lives we lead, the question still remains: “Does heaven exists?” Atheists claim “no,” and their rationale to leading morale lives is vaguely similar to that of Karma: the effects of all deeds, whether good or bad, are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences either positively or negatively respectfully. So regardless of religious affiliation, it is in the best interest of the individual to live a positive, meaningful lifestyle that is neither excessive nor impoverished, that harms none, and that helps others. Basically you have nothing to lose by living a decent a moral life, regardless of whether you are trying to raise boun to reach nirvana or if you are just doing it to be a decent person.
Rather than theorizing what happens after death, we should focus on the here and now. We should learn to cooperate and to ensure the highest quality of life. If there is a heaven or something like it, then we will no doubt reach it if we live good lives. And if there is none, then at least we could say we lived a good life.
Each individual has a different spiritual objective, in regards to the afterlife. For instance, a Buddhist hopes to reach nirvana, a spiritual state where one exists in perfect peace. On the other hand, a Muslim or a Christian hopes to enter heaven and spend eternity singing hymns of God’s greatness. Atheists expect nothing more than oblivion. In one minority religion known as Nogardian Spiritualism, individuals believe their will “ascend.”
Ascension is the act of transforming into a purely spiritual being which then resides on a higher plane of existence. Ascension is an evolution of the soul into a purely spiritual entity, independent of the physical body. When a person ascends, their physical body may either morph into a non-corporeal being or it may just die off, leaving the soul stranded somewhere between the physical world and the spiritual world.
No one knows what truly happens after death. Whether we become beautiful angles or become reincarnated as cows or pass into oblivion is scientifically unapproachable and completely theoretical, either developed through transcendental thought or through some religious experience.
As far as we know, scientifically, the heart stops pumping blood to the organs within our body and our brain slowly shuts down. Oxygen is no longer being carried to the brain via the bloodstream. As an individual’s brain begins to die, humans experience a “tunneling” affect, where one’s “vision” is narrowed toward a long dark tunnel with a light toward the end. Individuals who have had these “Near Death Experiences” report re-living parts of their lives or seeing loved one’s that have died before them. Two possibilities arise: individuals experience what they expect due to the dramatic nature of the event or this is the natural “shutting down” of the brain, similar to a computer’s shut down sequence. After the brain has shut down, there may be absolutely nothing.
It is a little unsettling to embrace the fact that nothing may happen once we die. The idea that we cease to exist entirely leaves us uncomfortable. To comfort ourselves, we developed these religious ideas of the afterlife. Because religious ideas of the afterlife vary greatly, no single religion could possibly be the “correct one.” After all, why would the divine chose to reveal themselves to one individual in the thousands of years of man’s existence?
From a personal stand point, I chose to embrace oblivion, ascension, and anything in between. Individuals who live mundane lives and chose to ignore spirituality entirely end their existence at death; however, those of us who embrace religious beliefs and chose to believe in something greater than ourselves live on. It does not matter which religious path we follow, so long as we follow a good and descent belief system, implying the golden rule of
“harm none” and a positive religious environment void of any sinister acts or hierarchical corruption.
Attaining a place in “heaven” is far from securing a divine role in the afterlife. To ascend, one must go above and beyond the lengths of being spiritually good and descent. One must set themselves apart, somehow, to be recognized by the powers that be as an outstanding individual. While this is speculation on my part, I believe that our worldly deeds as individuals reflects our spiritual well-being, and if we come up short upon death, we may end up with nothing or not enough, falling short of our goals for the afterlife.
Theravada Buddhists believe that an individual earns his or her way into heaven through boun. Boun is the manifestation of all the good you have done in your life. The more boun you have, the more likely you are to reach nirvana. Therefore, boun might be described as the exact opposite of sin. Boun has a quantitative value, although unknown to the individual exactly how much boun is rewarded for certain duties, and is basically a spiritual currency.
Individuals have also accepted a list of morals, depending on their faith, which would earn them a place in heaven, such as the Ten Commandments, the Middle Way, the Five Pillars of Islam, the Beatitudes, the Seven Deadly Sins, and so on. While all of these differ greatly, the basics of each can be summed up quote easily: (1) Do not harm others and (2) Be generous and help others.
But whatever lives we lead, the question still remains: “Does heaven exists?” Atheists claim “no,” and their rationale to leading morale lives is vaguely similar to that of Karma: the effects of all deeds, whether good or bad, are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences either positively or negatively respectfully. So regardless of religious affiliation, it is in the best interest of the individual to live a positive, meaningful lifestyle that is neither excessive nor impoverished, that harms none, and that helps others. Basically you have nothing to lose by living a decent a moral life, regardless of whether you are trying to raise boun to reach nirvana or if you are just doing it to be a decent person.
Rather than theorizing what happens after death, we should focus on the here and now. We should learn to cooperate and to ensure the highest quality of life. If there is a heaven or something like it, then we will no doubt reach it if we live good lives. And if there is none, then at least we could say we lived a good life.
I think if you believe in Jesus and that he died for you that you will go to heaven. If you don't believe in hin that is between you and him. I have asked a preacher if suicide is the ultimate sin and he said there is no way of knowing. Once you are dead you can't ask for forgiveness. I guess it is up to Jesus as to why he thinks you killed yourself.
Twisted Fairytale
Retired Administrator
This all depends on your religion. I am Baptist, so I beilive that we all go to heaven, if we are saved.
Nathan54AB
Familiar Face
I hold reincarnation to be true. If our body dies, what's left of us (of which I also think is the most real and most of what we are) goes to a faster vibrating reality. What does "faster vibrating reality" mean? To me, it's like the electromagnetic waves that make up light. The faster the frequency of the waves, the different properties and effects the light will have. Same is with reality. I think the universe and everything of it is vibratory in nature. The physical reality of dense matter that we live in is the slowest vibrating reality of the universe. Thus, when our body, our vehicle in this sluggish reality, dies, we are passed on to a faster vibrating reality. How fast, depends on our cumulative decisions in the life we lived. The faster we are vibrating, the more clarity we have and the closer we are to our soul, God, or whatever you want to call it.
Afterward, we may choose to reincarnate into another life in the sluggish physical reality so that we can master things that we haven't mastered before. For those people who commit suicide to see what lies for them after death, will only choose to come back to see what lies for them in life so they can master it again.
Here is an interesting thought. In quantum mechanics, it is seen that time has no relevance in the fundamental workings of the universe. Past and future are mundane, and all is now. If that's the case, then nothing that is real can be created or destroyed since the concepts of creation and destruction require linear time. We know we are real, because "we think therefore we are", so we can't be destroyed, so we must exist beyond our mortal body. 😎
Afterward, we may choose to reincarnate into another life in the sluggish physical reality so that we can master things that we haven't mastered before. For those people who commit suicide to see what lies for them after death, will only choose to come back to see what lies for them in life so they can master it again.
Here is an interesting thought. In quantum mechanics, it is seen that time has no relevance in the fundamental workings of the universe. Past and future are mundane, and all is now. If that's the case, then nothing that is real can be created or destroyed since the concepts of creation and destruction require linear time. We know we are real, because "we think therefore we are", so we can't be destroyed, so we must exist beyond our mortal body. 😎
My Bible clearly tells me if I accept the gift of eternal life that Jesus died on the cross to give me and repent of my sins I will go to heaven. If i don't, I go to the lake of fire" where the fire is never quenched and the worm never dies" . At the time that this passage was written the word "worm" translated into torment or anguish.
Now as for reincarnation we are told if we are saved, we will receive a glorious body at the time of the "rapture" or calling up. We will have this glorious body for the rest of eternity. So it is part of the Christian beliefs. We just don't believe you are sent back to try and get it right a second or third time. There's no need to. Jesus covered all of that with his blood .
You may ask how I can believe in something so off the wall and crazy? We as humans have to believe in something. Whither it's atheism , Buddhism, Islam , jedi or the temple of the purple dinosaur we all choose to believe in something. I find hope and comfort knowing my creator loved me enough to send his son to die for me. I have a mansion and crowns waiting for me in heaven. Believing that , to me , makes this life so much better. 😎
We all will live for eternity... You just have to choose smoking or not smoking. :great:
Now as for reincarnation we are told if we are saved, we will receive a glorious body at the time of the "rapture" or calling up. We will have this glorious body for the rest of eternity. So it is part of the Christian beliefs. We just don't believe you are sent back to try and get it right a second or third time. There's no need to. Jesus covered all of that with his blood .
You may ask how I can believe in something so off the wall and crazy? We as humans have to believe in something. Whither it's atheism , Buddhism, Islam , jedi or the temple of the purple dinosaur we all choose to believe in something. I find hope and comfort knowing my creator loved me enough to send his son to die for me. I have a mansion and crowns waiting for me in heaven. Believing that , to me , makes this life so much better. 😎
We all will live for eternity... You just have to choose smoking or not smoking. :great:
Violetstar
Up-and-Coming Sensation
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yeah we go into the ground until Jesus Christ comes back. Then everybody who believed that God raised Jesus from he dead and is born again(not reborn figure of speech)is going to rise up with Jesus Christ and the people who didn't believe will stay on Earth and God is going to destroy the Earth with the devil and all the devil spirits and unbelievers will be destroyed. Then God is going to create a new Earth with is what you are going to call "heaven". We will have new bodies and soul.In the Bible God says we will be like angles and we will go to Bema. We will get rewards for all of the people we brought back to the word. The word of God never comes back void.Dante said:
Lee Lawson
Seasoned Veteran
You die, you die. No one will never know what happens after that, live life at 100MPH, drugs, sex & rock and roll.
I don't take any of this seriously seeing as you may aswell live life without thinking of what happens after death, I could go on but can't be bothered. But William Wallace once said ''FREEDOM''.
I don't take any of this seriously seeing as you may aswell live life without thinking of what happens after death, I could go on but can't be bothered. But William Wallace once said ''FREEDOM''.
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