Will you be trying Ubuntu 10.04

[froggyboy604]

Only 12 more days to go : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown

Yes, I probably give Ubuntu 10.04 a try when it is officially released in 12 days.

It looks pretty neat from this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcjEN-8rLf0

 

[Pixel Pirate]

Looks the same as it always does....boring .

I use linux mint currently. So, when they release their next version. Ill test it.

 

[Dasher]

I dont' know how to install Unbuntu or anything. I want to try them, but it always requires some tweaking of drivers and crap that I don't know how ot do...

 

[froggyboy604]

I just mainly run Ubuntu from the Live CD. It is not a very good OS if you play a lot of Computer games or programs which were made for Windows.

 

[Justin]

I love Ubuntu, I highly suggest you try it! 😀

 

[haynes11]

Ubuntu isnt really for games, linux and ubuntu servers are the best! Though does take some learning for all the commands

 

[Chi-Kun]

Have fun with your minesweeper, people.

 

[Justin]

Ubuntu isnt really for games, linux and ubuntu servers are the best! Though does take some learning for all the commands

Ubuntu has way better games installed on it than Windows :\

 

[froggyboy604]

I agree Windows default games are borring except for Pinball for Windows XP.

Ubuntu has a few 3d games which work on WineHQ, and a few classic looking games.

I heard people can install World of Warcraft in Ubuntu via Wine.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

Nope not until they get their crap together..

Oh and their forums are a big turn off. Its like fanboy poluza

 

[haynes11]

i dont mean games as i default games, i mean games as in proper gaming , eg: Assasins creed isnt playable on Ubuntu , though there probably are fixes for this

 

[Chi-Kun]

Ubuntu isnt really for games, linux and ubuntu servers are the best! Though does take some learning for all the commands

Ubuntu has way better games installed on it than Windows :\

Try running Team Fortress 2 on Ubuntu. Half Life 2? Audiosurf? Just Cause? I agree, they have better built in games, but last I checked, Ubuntu can't run the good stuff.

 

[froggyboy604]

With WineHQ, you can run quite a few older games on Ubuntu, and other Linux Distros.

Check out this guys channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93#g/u

He can run a nice collection of games.

Ubuntu also have some Linux native games like TORCs which you can run. It is decent for a free game.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/torcs/

 

[NBK*Twitch]

With WineHQ, you can run quite a few older games on Ubuntu, and other Linux Distros.

Check out this guys channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93#g/u

He can run a nice collection of games.

Ubuntu also have some Linux native games like TORCs which you can run. It is decent for a free game.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/torcs/

While Wine is a great project it should not be relied on. It is just to unstable and doesn't make alot of games or programs for that matter run like they do on windows.

Now there are programs like cedega and crossover that do alot better,but spending money on a program to run windows programs is kinda silly when all you need is windows. With that said though,I use Cedega lol...

What Canicoal really needs to do is make their distro more stable. Every LTS I have seen has major bugs in it. 8.04 had a bug that made it kernal panic out of the blue.(Never was fixed) They also had a beta web browser by default...

Another thing they should do is make it where it really is an upgrade. So far every "upgrade" has broke something else that was not broken before.

Now sure you do not have to upgrade,but sooner or later you must due to their release cycle.

Then they have buggy programs and evil ones by default. Look at computer janitor for instance... link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEP0UQAGzSM

Another is they need to fix that security problem with sudo. That 15 min wait inbetween leaves the user just begging to be hacked.

This video proves the point - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HxFGQ8OpYw

Then there is the community. Most of which are either fanboy's/girls. Or elitist.

So if you asked something like -

My sound broke after upgrading,you would get an answer like -

Fanboy - Well it works for me maybe you need to get new hardware.

Fanboy - Well you shouldn't have upgraded!!

Fanboy - Whatever you Microsoft fanboy go back where you belong.

Elitist - You obviously should have just done a clean install.

Elitist - Read the release notes dummy!!!



Finally there is the problem of video card breakage. Which is not only a ubuntu problem,but still needs something done.

Each kernel or xorg update means breakage.

The fix to this is easy.

Stop putting xorg and kernel updates right after they go stable. Or Make a better API. Or better yet bring in some backwards compatibility.

Even Linus Torvalds himself has said xorg is crap.

You see,its like theo has said," If the users and programmers would step back and look at how crappy linux is something could be done about it."

But all people focus on now is the cool effects... ugh...

Oh and here is a great video set that shows what I am talking about -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQMqQxf-Ik

 

[froggyboy604]

I agree with the last video you posted.

Ubuntu comes with a lot of programs I don't need or won't use like Bittorrent, FTP, IM clients, Bluetooth, Games, Open Office, Media players, evo. e-mail client,Bluetooth, Gimp and a lot more.

I mostly just use Bleachbit, FireFox and VLC in Ubuntu on a daily basis.

There are also a lot of services and start up programs which run in the background.

The upside of Ubuntu is there are a lot of tutorials available for it on Youtube and other websites.

It seems Ubuntu is trying to satisfy everyone by installing as many types of software the regular user will or might use.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

I agree with the last video you posted.

Ubuntu comes with a lot of programs I don't need or won't use like Bittorrent, FTP, IM clients, Bluetooth, Games, Open Office, Media players, evo. e-mail client,Bluetooth, Gimp and a lot more.

I mostly just use Bleachbit, FireFox and VLC in Ubuntu on a daily basis.

There are also a lot of services and start up programs which run in the background.

The upside of Ubuntu is there are a lot of tutorials available for it on Youtube and other websites.

It seems Ubuntu is trying to satisfy everyone by installing as many types of software the regular user will or might use.

I am glad you agree and not acting like a normal fanboy would.

I find that they(canicoal) trying to satisfy everyone is what is causing issues. If they took a few notes from opensuse and mandriva. I think they would be better off. Maybe make a control panel like yast2 or mandriva's. Also adding a way to add repos in a few clicks would be great. The first thing they should do though is quit adding new things and fix the broken. That in itself would make ubuntu alot better.

 

[froggyboy604]

I hate how I have to update so much software which I never used once on Ubuntu when I run update manager. Removing them also can be somewhat of a hassle.

I notice for some reason Ubuntu 8 does not run very well on older computers. When I have to use Ubuntu on a older computer at a place I volunteer at. Firefox 3.0 will lag when I visit bigger websites. The computer uses a Intel Celeron CPU and 256 MB of RAM, but it could be the computer being slow since it is rather slow and the computer does not look very well maintained.

What I find strange in Ubuntu is the MP3 and MPEG, MP4 codecs require the user install it if they want to open those types of files. Mp3, Mp4, and other media codecs should be installed by default during installs.

I notice Ubuntu takes longer to automatically updates Firefox for the version that came with 9.10. The version of FF is still 3.5.9 and there is no option to check for updates in Help menu for the modified version of FF 3.5 for Ubuntu.

When I ran BleachBit, Bleachbit found around 400MB of junk files on a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 which was strange. Computer Janitor only found some .deb installers for Adobe flash player.

Ubuntu also needs to use more Sub-menus for the Places, Systems > Perferences, and System > Administration Menus found on the top tool bar on Ubuntu's desktop.

I also don't like it that it is not easily possible to add custom folders/sub-menu to store the launcher items in Ubuntu menus on the top task bars.

I notice it is not possible to easily delete launchers/shortcuts on the Applications or any menu. I want to delete some failed install of Windows programs with Wine.

I once wreck a Ubuntu OS by trying to remove unwanted programs and services in Synaptic by just unchecking stuff I did not want. But, Ubuntu did not tell me the files were needed to run Ubuntu. Luckily, I had nothing important on Ubuntu since I was just testing it on VirtualBox.

I hope Ubuntu solves the problem I listed above in 10 or future versions.

Ubuntu is a decent Live CD OS like Knoppix. It is relatively simple to install .deb packages with the built-in installer or Ubuntu Software Center. It is just point and click in most cases.

Plus, the amount of tutorials and books available for Ubuntu which can be easily found at a public Library or online.

 

[Rich Edmonds]

I see myself as wanting Ubuntu to do so well, to really pack a punch into the software market. Although I am inclined to agree with posters in this thread. Trying the newest beta for the 10.04 release, it is the most 'polished' release to date for me. I had no issues installing it on my Acer Revo (had a few issues with 9.10), the only fix I had to perform was to get the sound through the HDMI port working by changing a setting in Alsa, no biggie.

I think your post should be stickied on every developer's desktop, "The first thing they should do though is quit adding new things and fix the broken" can't really word it better myself. I still have issues with the SiS 672 on my Fujitsu Siemens laptop, this has been going on for 4 versions now. there have been thousands of posts about it yet nothing is done. If only they contact SiS and get the proprietary driver and release the code for community maintenance.

Agreed with the control panel like Yast2 too, would be very cool.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

I hate how I have to update so much software which I never used once on Ubuntu when I run update manager. Removing them also can be somewhat of a hassle.

I notice for some reason Ubuntu 8 does not run very well on older computers. When I have to use Ubuntu on a older computer at a place I volunteer at. Firefox 3.0 will lag when I visit bigger websites. The computer uses a Intel Celeron CPU and 256 MB of RAM, but it could be the computer being slow since it is rather slow and the computer does not look very well maintained.

What I find strange in Ubuntu is the MP3 and MPEG, MP4 codecs require the user install it if they want to open those types of files. Mp3, Mp4, and other media codecs should be installed by default during installs.

I notice Ubuntu takes longer to automatically updates Firefox for the version that came with 9.10. The version of FF is still 3.5.9 and there is no option to check for updates in Help menu for the modified version of FF 3.5 for Ubuntu.

When I ran BleachBit, Bleachbit found around 400MB of junk files on a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 which was strange. Computer Janitor only found some .deb installers for Adobe flash player.

Ubuntu also needs to use more Sub-menus for the Places, Systems > Perferences, and System > Administration Menus found on the top tool bar on Ubuntu's desktop.

I also don't like it that it is not easily possible to add custom folders/sub-menu to store the launcher items in Ubuntu menus on the top task bars.

I notice it is not possible to easily delete launchers/shortcuts on the Applications or any menu. I want to delete some failed install of Windows programs with Wine.

I once wreck a Ubuntu OS by trying to remove unwanted programs and services in Synaptic by just unchecking stuff I did not want. But, Ubuntu did not tell me the files were needed to run Ubuntu. Luckily, I had nothing important on Ubuntu since I was just testing it on VirtualBox.

I hope Ubuntu solves the problem I listed above in 10 or future versions.

Ubuntu is a decent Live CD OS like Knoppix. It is relatively simple to install .deb packages with the built-in installer or Ubuntu Software Center. It is just point and click in most cases.

Plus, the amount of tutorials and books available for Ubuntu which can be easily found at a public Library or online.

While I agree with you on most points I must correct you on others.

I hate how I have to update so much software which I never used once on Ubuntu when I run update manager. Removing them also can be somewhat of a hassle.

Agreed this is why I and a few others hate dependency handling. This is not all ubuntu's fault. However they could make it less of a hassle. By only making it install what is needed. Not any extra bullcrap..

Debain for example when removing scrot then tried to remove xfce4 ..

I notice for some reason Ubuntu 8 does not run very well on older computers. When I have to use Ubuntu on a older computer at a place I volunteer at. Firefox 3.0 will lag when I visit bigger websites. The computer uses a Intel Celeron CPU and 256 MB of RAM, but it could be the computer being slow since it is rather slow and the computer does not look very well maintained.

This isn't really a fault. Ubuntu is meant for newer computers. If you want to run a Linux Distro for older hardware I gotta suggest debain lxde or using slackware.

What I find strange in Ubuntu is the MP3 and MPEG, MP4 codecs require the user install it if they want to open those types of files. Mp3, Mp4, and other media codecs should be installed by default during installs.

Yes it is annoying,but it would be illegal to have them installed by default. Which is why they have the fluendo codecs for sell in the ubuntu store. If you download the gstreamer mp3 you are basically breaking the law if you are in the us or uk.

I notice Ubuntu takes longer to automatically updates Firefox for the version that came with 9.10. The version of FF is still 3.5.9 and there is no option to check for updates in Help menu for the modified version of FF 3.5 for Ubuntu.

Agreed. However to be fair most don't have the latest version. However some do have an easy way of gaining it. For example Opensuse has a community repo. Enable it and boom your on the latest version.

When I ran BleachBit, Bleachbit found around 400MB of junk files on a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 which was strange. Computer Janitor only found some .deb installers for Adobe flash player.

Not surprising. Just a warning though do not use computer janitor.

This video shows why - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEP0UQAGzSM

Ubuntu also needs to use more Sub-menus for the Places, Systems > Perferences, and System > Administration Menus found on the top tool bar on Ubuntu's desktop.

I am not sure if you like that or not. I dislike it . However its not a ubuntu fault. That is gnomes fault. I personally use the slab menu on opensuse to fix that.

On ubuntu you can use the linux mint menu or gnomenu.

I also don't like it that it is not easily possible to add custom folders/sub-menu to store the launcher items in Ubuntu menus on the top task bars.

Again not ubuntu's fault. That is a gnome fault.

I notice it is not possible to easily delete launchers/shortcuts on the Applications or any menu. I want to delete some failed install of Windows programs with Wine.

While I disagree with you . I can understand why you think so.

All you have to do is right click the menu,edit menu, then delete or add what you need from there. This again though is a gnome fault not ubuntu.

I once wreck a Ubuntu OS by trying to remove unwanted programs and services in Synaptic by just unchecking stuff I did not want. But, Ubuntu did not tell me the files were needed to run Ubuntu. Luckily, I had nothing important on Ubuntu since I was just testing it on VirtualBox.

This has to do with the shitty dependency handling I was speaking of. It adds and remove stuff not needed.

For instance install wine through synaptic. You will see it tries to install two other programs. Yet all it needs is wine. So you have to go to the wine site and install the .deb yourself.

I hope Ubuntu solves the problem I listed above in 10 or future versions.

As do I,but some of the problems I doubt they will since they are gnomes problem. The others though I do hope they fix.

Next time though post real problems.

For instance their love for speeding boot time up,but not making restarting from suspend better....

infact if you look here - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/ specs

You should see that they have making boot time faster while having improve suspend pending...

Backwards much?

 

[Teekay]

Probably not.