Everyone always talks about the great hosts and brilliant offers and often there are threads made so people can check out the good hosts…what about the bad hosts, it might be good for folks to know which ones to avoid?
Worst Hosting Provider
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Based on the reports we’ve received regarding dissatisfaction, it appears that these issues are often linked to the sub-groups of Newfold Digital. A quick search reveals numerous complaints about this group, suggesting that it may be better to avoid using them.
I'd stay away from Dreamhost, as well as Contabo. I had issues with Dreamhost once, my website never worked and I contacted support but never got a response back. I've heard bad things about Contabo, I personally never used them but many people said their services are a rip off and they ran into issues left and right.
I grabbed a VPS1 from Contabo to play with and host a friends site on to get it off of mine. So far, it's been reliable for availability, but they definitely throttle the throughput on their SSD VPS1 offering. Not a big deal for a small site, but for a busier site I'd probably try their NVMe offering. Since I am not "big" into the admin/hosting/vps type world any longer (I get what I need and not concerned with doing a lot of testing) it's sufficing. I do pull regular backups of all the sites on that VPS instance though in case it becomes problematic.
Would that be the Xenforo help site that doesn't have Xenforo on it? LMAO.
That is one of them. The other is The Pipe Stand (link removed) (which I host for a close friend) as well as my blog. As Neo (from the XF Help site) commented, it doesn't run Xenforo because of the possibility of them playing licensing games since that site doesn't care if you are licensed or not and knowingly providing support to people using it outside the license terms could be deemed in violation of the Xenforo license which clearly states
is grounds for license revocation and it seems that they would prefer to honor that license requirement instead of violate it. If a question can be answered, it will be no matter your license status. I guess you may not be fully familiar with the license terms that Xenforo based sites operates under? Feel free to join over there if you want to be unfettered from the leash of the XF developers. 😎
I do know that they would love to run it under Xenforo, but they do not trust the Xenforo developers any further than a 3 year old could throw a Sumo wrestler. There has been discussion in the staff area about eventually registering an anonymous LLC and then purchasing another paid script offering to run on it, but a similar issue still can be present.
And from what I understand, the attitude of Chris and the XF staff (this is second hand since I don't read much over there other than the bug reports and updates to the add-ons) indicates that could be entirely possible from some of their comments.
In the last few years I've rarely if ever posted on the XF site for support, instead giving it. I finally woke up to the game playing that they were doing.
When I started the site as an alternative support site that was targeted to not be under the thumb of Xenforo developers influence (and before transferring it to another Xenforo admin) I didn't want the possibility of going against the license. The current owner/admin of the site pretty clearly gives the reason about that in [link removed] over there and was in agreement with my initial philosophy when I set up the site. I have no issues with hosting it on one of my server instances, as I've done for many others in my decade plus period of running sites and VPS/dedicated servers.
As much as some may believe, I am not anti-Xenforo. I am against (and very vocal about it) what I consider the stupidity of the choices that the XenForo developers have chosen for the path of their script. The longer they continue to fail to offer end user improvements (or offer barely stubbed out options) and increase the reliance on outside developers the larger the problem grows. I myself would love to upgrade my site (which still has a paid license) but I can't because a few required add-ons are STILL not updated after 6 months (and sorry, the add-ons I am waiting on are from a major XF 3rd party developer and ultimately the offerings the provide should be built into the core). That is the issue with the dependence on 3rd party developers to make your script offering what many admins consider as a minimal standard when you offer minimal ability in the core. And ironically, apparently there are several other Xenforo admins that are of the same belief and in the same boat. One of them took over the XF Help site since I would rather concentrate on my site as I need to implement a YT channel and some other features. You have to wonder how many others haven't upgraded to the latest and greatest version of XF because their add-ons haven't been updated even now to work with it. I mean, it should be pretty telling when a developer like Xon is STILL trying to get his add-ons updated to 2.3 after 1/2 a year.
In the mean time, the Contabo VPS instance is doing well for what is required. Is it what I would run my own site (link removed) on? Nope, not when compared to my Hetzner VPS instance. For many, cheap is not the ultimate choice. For a low priced VPS, so far Contabo has been decent, but it is in no way equivalent to the Hetzner instance my site runs on. Of course, my Hetzner instance is about 3 times as expensive, but does have better server performance attributes.
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I've found that a lot of the shared web hosting plans don't pan out nicely. Specifically, those that only give you cPanel level access but not access like you would have through a VPS, where your site loading times and performance depend on how many resources other sites on your server are using at any given time.
There are quality shared hosting providers out there. The thing is, most that use shared hosting look for cheap.
And as the old saying goes, buy cheap, get cheap. 😎
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