Worst States in the US

The worst are almost together and can't out it down for Yankess moved to those states. Yet those states do have high crime or killing.
 
California would be the worst. It gained the good label of highest poverty rate in the US late 2017.

Between high taxation and so forth it is impossible for 80% of Americans to live in. I have two friends there who make $15/h and can't afford even simple rent at a apartment even with welfare benefits, imagine that. Also high crime rates in northern California does not help, but who on the left cares about MS-13? Even The Hill mention MS-13 is an illegal immigrant ran cartel group that intentionally targets other illegal immigrants, but as the left says it is racist to arrest members of MS-13 even though members of it kill many illegal immigrants who walk into California.

Funny how stopping killers, rapists and child trafficking is suddenly racist.
 
California would be the worst. It gained the good label of highest poverty rate in the US late 2017.

Yeah, a lot of them, oddly enough, are coming to the southeast - Tennessee (my home) etc.. But that's good for us cause more population means more jobs.
 
I think the bad states will improve with an influx of educated outsiders. Note, not being racist here. They could be any race. Anyway, though, I do believe in having a heart for the poor, but unless their problems are fixed, they don't add value to an area.
 
I think the biggest factor was economics in this study, even though they say it was a bunch of things.
 
I’m going to question their criteria:

“Population Density (The lower the worse)”

Why is a low population density a bad thing? Some people like to have space. Just because people are packed in like sardines in a can, doesn’t mean they’re happy.

“Low Home Values”

It costs a million dollars to buy a normal house in the Seattle or San Francisco Bay areas. Is that a good thing? Yes, a home is an investment, but it’s a mandatory one. I’d rather have a cheap, but just as nice house, and then put all my extra money in an investment medium of my choice. Not a house that can burn down or lose its value in a housing crash. Diversified portfolios are good.

“Low Median Income”

More income is good, but many of these states also have low costs of living. Yes, it costs the same to order something off Amazon, no matter where you live, but a good steak costs like $35 in Seattle, and $20 in the South.
 
I’m going to question their criteria:

“Population Density (The lower the worse)”

Why is a low population density a bad thing? Some people like to have space. Just because people are packed in like sardines in a can, doesn’t mean they’re happy.

“Low Home Values”

It costs a million dollars to buy a normal house in the Seattle or San Francisco Bay areas. Is that a good thing? Yes, a home is an investment, but it’s a mandatory one. I’d rather have a cheap, but just as nice house, and then put all my extra money in an investment medium of my choice. Not a house that can burn down or lose its value in a housing crash. Diversified portfolios are good.

“Low Median Income”

More income is good, but many of these states also have low costs of living. Yes, it costs the same to order something off Amazon, no matter where you live, but a good steak costs like $35 in Seattle, and $20 in the South.

That's what I find interesting about the article. If you want to consider cost of living, population density, etc. California would be considered the worst state considering it was labeled for having the highest poverty rate than any other state last year. Also it is impossible for most average Americans to live there.
 
If you want to consider cost of living, population density, etc. California would be considered the worst state considering it was labeled for having the highest poverty rate than any other state last year. Also it is impossible for most average Americans to live there.

Not to mention the ludicrous corporate taxes. Self-employed businesses really notice it.
 
If you want to consider cost of living, population density, etc. California would be considered the worst state considering it was labeled for having the highest poverty rate than any other state last year. Also it is impossible for most average Americans to live there.

Not to mention the ludicrous corporate taxes. Self-employed businesses really notice it.

Everything about California sucks. Unless you are making 6 digit figures a year I wouldn't bother living there.
 
I’m going to question their criteria:

“Population Density (The lower the worse)”

Why is a low population density a bad thing? Some people like to have space. Just because people are packed in like sardines in a can, doesn’t mean they’re happy.

“Low Home Values”

It costs a million dollars to buy a normal house in the Seattle or San Francisco Bay areas. Is that a good thing? Yes, a home is an investment, but it’s a mandatory one. I’d rather have a cheap, but just as nice house, and then put all my extra money in an investment medium of my choice. Not a house that can burn down or lose its value in a housing crash. Diversified portfolios are good.

“Low Median Income”

More income is good, but many of these states also have low costs of living. Yes, it costs the same to order something off Amazon, no matter where you live, but a good steak costs like $35 in Seattle, and $20 in the South.

I guess they see low population as in people don't want to live there.


You can't just base it off of Seattle and San Francisco. Seattle might be an expensive area, but if you go outside of Seattle.. i can see homes on sale for around 150k. Same with San Francisco, if you go to rural California, there are cheap homes. If this was the case, New York penthouses would almost lead the way 😉

Cost of living is an issue, but that depends primarily on the area you live in. Some areas of these states are rich, and some are average.
 
Want to lower the cost of living? Reduce taxes on everyone federally and on a state level. When you burden people less they can afford more. Before 1913 Americans were never taxed. Roads still got built and infrastructure was fine. Government made 95% of its money from Tariffs. After that Americans got taxed shortly after a great depression then the world wars.

Affordable living would be amazing if we were not taxed.
 
I’m going to question their criteria:

“Population Density (The lower the worse)”

Why is a low population density a bad thing? Some people like to have space. Just because people are packed in like sardines in a can, doesn’t mean they’re happy.

“Low Home Values”

It costs a million dollars to buy a normal house in the Seattle or San Francisco Bay areas. Is that a good thing? Yes, a home is an investment, but it’s a mandatory one. I’d rather have a cheap, but just as nice house, and then put all my extra money in an investment medium of my choice. Not a house that can burn down or lose its value in a housing crash. Diversified portfolios are good.

“Low Median Income”

More income is good, but many of these states also have low costs of living. Yes, it costs the same to order something off Amazon, no matter where you live, but a good steak costs like $35 in Seattle, and $20 in the South.

I guess they see low population as in people don't want to live there.


You can't just base it off of Seattle and San Francisco. Seattle might be an expensive area, but if you go outside of Seattle.. i can see homes on sale for around 150k. Same with San Francisco, if you go to rural California, there are cheap homes. If this was the case, New York penthouses would almost lead the way 😉

Cost of living is an issue, but that depends primarily on the area you live in. Some areas of these states are rich, and some are average.
The Seattle prices skew the statistics heavily. Spokane, WA is a very different place from Seattle, WA. They might as well be different states, quality of life wise, but this article lumps them together as an average.

Besides, a huge percentage of state populations live in these large metro areas. More people live in the New York Metro Area than in all of New York State.
 
The reason why CA has such a high poverty rate is because of cost of living. The income to be considered in poverty is ridiculously high because of housing prices, but salaries there are already above the national average. Most poor people in CA have enough cash to eat well and sleep under a roof. It's not like Mississippi where people sleep under newspapers.
 
The reason why CA has such a high poverty rate is because of cost of living. The income to be considered in poverty is ridiculously high because of housing prices, but salaries there are already above the national average. Most poor people in CA have enough cash to eat well and sleep under a roof. It's not like Mississippi where people sleep under newspapers.

But Californians are still leaving - coming to the Southeast, but probably not the poorest southern states. However, the poorest ones need the outsiders more for increased economic activity. Case in point, they're coming to Tennessee, but West Virginia could use them more!
 
The reason why CA has such a high poverty rate is because of cost of living. The income to be considered in poverty is ridiculously high because of housing prices, but salaries there are already above the national average. Most poor people in CA have enough cash to eat well and sleep under a roof. It's not like Mississippi where people sleep under newspapers.

But Californians are still leaving - coming to the Southeast, but probably not the poorest southern states. However, the poorest ones need the outsiders more for increased economic activity. Case in point, they're coming to Tennessee, but West Virginia could use them more!
Do you have any proof Californians are leaving? Actual proof, no anecdotes.
 
The reason why CA has such a high poverty rate is because of cost of living. The income to be considered in poverty is ridiculously high because of housing prices, but salaries there are already above the national average. Most poor people in CA have enough cash to eat well and sleep under a roof. It's not like Mississippi where people sleep under newspapers.

But Californians are still leaving - coming to the Southeast, but probably not the poorest southern states. However, the poorest ones need the outsiders more for increased economic activity. Case in point, they're coming to Tennessee, but West Virginia could use them more!
Do you have any proof Californians are leaving? Actual proof, no anecdotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/cal...ousing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

Californians fed up with housing costs and taxes are fleeing state in big numbers
  • More Californians are moving from the Golden State, particularly lower-income residents, although even middle-class residents are saying goodbye.
  • The trend is a symptom of the state's housing crunch and, for some, high taxes.
  • Census Bureau data show California lost just over 138,000 people to domestic migration in the 12 months ended in July 2017.
  • Lower-cost states such as Arizona, Texas and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians.
 
California would be the worst. It gained the good label of highest poverty rate in the US late 2017.

Between high taxation and so forth it is impossible for 80% of Americans to live in. I have two friends there who make $15/h and can't afford even simple rent at a apartment even with welfare benefits, imagine that. Also high crime rates in northern California does not help, but who on the left cares about MS-13? Even The Hill mention MS-13 is an illegal immigrant ran cartel group that intentionally targets other illegal immigrants, but as the left says it is racist to arrest members of MS-13 even though members of it kill many illegal immigrants who walk into California.
The problem isn't the poverty. The minimun wage is rising as we near 2020. California has a lot of people, the issue is that the politicians in power right now - want more money. More money. More money. They made a lot of ridiculous laws and backtracked a lot of the laws. Marijuana legal? Awesome! Until DEA continues to smash into people's homes with arrest warrants, and whatnot. You can't do certain things with weed, though. And job applications still test you for drugs and alcohol. You can have Weed, but it needs to be in a container.

Furthermore: "The Justice Department on Thursday rescinded Obama-era rules that prevented federal prosecutors from targeting marijuana businesses operating legally under state laws."

I'm not even going to talk about the "left" and their ridiculous bash-fest on Twitter. It's practically the same feedback from alt-right, Gamergate, SJW. I lost track, but the point is, I'm not even going to go there. Gangs and Cartels usually exist to make money off other gangs/cartels, and sometimes the corrupt. Both gangs and cartels try to take over a section. With gangs it's all around turf domination. With cartels, it's about trading cash into product, and then back into cash (varying subjects such as money laundering, price fixing, taking over businesses by extreme force, and whatnot - mostly illegal stuff).

I love California because it has everything you would need.

My least, and most hated state? Alabama. I'm living in it right now.

Not enough business, not enough jobs, not enough products, not enough... anything. House prices are rock bottom that you can basically buy the house for half the value what Silicon Valley prices their houses. Find a good job, pay your house in about a year. Boom. Profit. But it's not ideal to live in. Or to sell a house. Nobody wants to buy a house here, I'm serious.

Nobody wants to build a business here. Some do, but 90% of the time, you shut down in a year, or more. I keep telling family that this is a bad idea. Been saying it since we moved here. Why? Because nobody's going to spend 30 minutes or an hour just to get from A to B just to see some small startup's shop. It's that bad. So, wherever you are, please appreciate where you live. I wish I could move from this shithole.

There are a lot of risk associated with living in Alabama. Rain, lighting storms, thunder storms are the norm. I would not wish to live in here during the Winter, and it's coming. I expect freezing temperatures.
The reason why CA has such a high poverty rate is because of cost of living. The income to be considered in poverty is ridiculously high because of housing prices, but salaries there are already above the national average. Most poor people in CA have enough cash to eat well and sleep under a roof. It's not like Mississippi where people sleep under newspapers.

But Californians are still leaving - coming to the Southeast, but probably not the poorest southern states. However, the poorest ones need the outsiders more for increased economic activity. Case in point, they're coming to Tennessee, but West Virginia could use them more!
Do you have any proof Californians are leaving? Actual proof, no anecdotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/cal...ousing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

Californians fed up with housing costs and taxes are fleeing state in big numbers
  • More Californians are moving from the Golden State, particularly lower-income residents, although even middle-class residents are saying goodbye.
  • The trend is a symptom of the state's housing crunch and, for some, high taxes.
  • Census Bureau data show California lost just over 138,000 people to domestic migration in the 12 months ended in July 2017.
  • Lower-cost states such as Arizona, Texas and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians.
Most of this is because of older people. The more ambitious folks don't fret about money. If you have a really good job, a startup, or a company, you can easily fix this. And this reflects what I've been saying about politicians: They want more money.

Hopefully, republicans gain control of the house in California and correct most of the bullshit laws, and relax some of the taxation going on in there. It's hard to be a new startup under a democrat Mayor or Governor.
 
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New Hampshire is way better than Vermont. they have pretty much the same things but better. better skiing, mountains, syrup, industry, history, average income, cities in general, schools, forests, sports, laws, more freedom(NH is the most free state), no sales tax, no income tax, and people. plus there are just too many Vermonters who are really New Yorker wannabees.
 
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