I'm not installing it until all the mods and themes I have are compatible with it. Well, I could possibly on my math one - but the math notation mod has to be adjusted. That's something the other partner on the forum would have to do.
XF 2.1 - Thoughts?
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...Yay...? To be fair, it's better than the let-down that was 2.0, but I'm not sure this is the sort of value one expects from a company which has made over $27 million and charges about $140 per head.
It's generally an alright release, not amazing, but it brings some much needed improvements, although it would have been nice, if these features were here three years ago like in Discourse.
As for the reactions, I'm not quite sure what to think about them, they seem like plugin territory to me, but it might be a good way for people to express themselves. I remember seeing it first in IPB though.
We'll have to see what they do next. We will have to see.
It's generally an alright release, not amazing, but it brings some much needed improvements, although it would have been nice, if these features were here three years ago like in Discourse.
As for the reactions, I'm not quite sure what to think about them, they seem like plugin territory to me, but it might be a good way for people to express themselves. I remember seeing it first in IPB though.
We'll have to see what they do next. We will have to see.
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They are way behind IPS, that's for sure.
- Native push notifications on supported devices/browsers - already on IPS
- Editor button management - already on IPS
- Enhanced editor integration and advanced BB code option syntax- already on IPS
- Markdown support- lol who wants to use Markdown in 2019 when there are WYSIWYG html editors?
- Tables - this is neat
- Reactions - already on IPS
- URL unfurling - already on IPS
- Emoji enhancements including an improved smilie menu with easy emoji access- already on IPS
- Video uploads- already on IPS
- Approval queue improvements - already on IPS
- Guest performance improvements including guest page caching - don't know enough about this to rate it.
- Content bookmarking and sharing - bookmarking is a nice feature but sharing is already on IPS
- A fully featured REST API - already on IPS
- One click XenForo upgrades and easier add-on installation - already on IPS
- BB code and rich text editing for profile posts and comments - already on IPS
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I had been talking to a developer about upgrading FP to XF2, but I was told that I probably wanted to wait for XF2.1. I definitely understand why. I've been playing with XF2.1 in a demo, and it's pretty awesome. The native push notifications is pretty cool, although it's not supported on any iOS devices. It's also good to see reactions and bookmarking, so you won't have to purchase an add-on for these types of features anymore.
It depends on how they've implemented it. If they've taken a naive approach, then this could easily backfire and make things load even slower, especially if it's the topic pages which I'm sure would be the first place they'd go to optimise.
You have to keep in mind that for each page they cache, they would have to keep it in memory somewhere (or the disk, ouch) and I don't have faith in their competence not to cache all the things.
I have a feeling that they'll be reading this post just to see what people think and to adjust accordingly at the last minute, but not quite enough to do something useful.
I think XenForo is largely just reacting to the competition at this point (no puns intended lol).
Now, if only IPB wasn't so expensive, it could probably quickly supersede this useless over-hyped thing, not to mention, if Discourse had a more appealing look.
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No one. They literally just stole that feature to compete with Discourse because it uses a Markdown Editor with a live preview on the right which incidentally is probably even more useful than this poor imitation.
A lot of what they do shows signs of them feeling threatened by Discourse and quickly shovelling out ill-conceived features to try to compete with it almost as if they don't have confidence in their own product.
Still, they're getting some useful things out, although I think they're mostly just relying on XenForo for the passive income without much interest in pursuing much further development. And to be fair, if you can get a million dollars per year split between three people by doing nothing, but doing the occasional token gesture or feature rush, then who are we to criticise it?
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XF Devs said blame it on Apple. For Safari/iOS, you'd need to learn a different set of code libraries. That is my understanding, anyway. However, most browsers on tablet/phones/computers support that push notification. Let's get to upgrading, Cameron. You have no excuse now!
I wouldn't be surprised, Apple aren't particularly known for being reasonable.
They'd probably have to use something like React Native to target that, I wonder what JS framework they'll pick in the end. I'm not sure if ones other than React *have* that sort of compilable to native type functionality.
I know Misago uses React, so it can probably benefit from that sort of functionality there.
Ah, there's something that we agree on, then!
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