Zeta/IF/Forumotion are they really so bad?

What features would you gain out of integrating ZB with Wordpress? If there is a particular feature that you want out of that combination, I can more than likely either find an existing modification that does it or tell you for certain that it is possible and give you a name of a person who can do it. There are many amazing coders (and designers) on ZB and they have taken it to the next level.

I hope this isn't considered advertising, it's not my board, but take a look at the "Outline Nova" theme on http://outlineforum.com and tell me that ZB sucks after that. Go on, I dare you to have the nerve to say it. That theme is top notch (with the ability to change the background of it to ANY image) and I've yet to see any other theme with that capability.
 
Haven't used iF or Forumotion, but I've used ZetaBoards and I was quite impressed. All of the people bashing on it are probably people who have used phpBB since the Stone Age and haven't even used either one of them.
 
GAK said:
What features would you gain out of integrating ZB with Wordpress? If there is a particular feature that you want out of that combination, I can more than likely either find an existing modification that does it or tell you for certain that it is possible and give you a name of a person who can do it. There are many amazing coders (and designers) on ZB and they have taken it to the next level.

I hope this isn't considered advertising, it's not my board, but take a look at the "Outline Nova" theme on http://outlineforum.com and tell me that ZB sucks after that. Go on, I dare you to have the nerve to say it. That theme is top notch (with the ability to change the background of it to ANY image) and I've yet to see any other theme with that capability.
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All the Outline themes are great. There are some awesome things you can do with ZB theming if you know how.
 
Hiocoie925 said:
Haven't used iF or Forumotion, but I've used ZetaBoards and I was quite impressed. All of the people bashing on it are probably people who have used phpBB since the Stone Age and haven't even used either one of them.
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Exactly. The people hating on ZB are those that refuse to change.

GAF: Yep, and many people know how. Even ZNR has great, innovative themes, but that's still nothing compared to other resource boards that aren't "official".
 
Your kind of missing my point. You will not be able to customise ZB anywhere near to the extent of a forum on a webhost where you have access to modify the core files. You may be able to do something using a "round the houses" method but you will always have limitations and there will always be something you would like to do at some point that you can't do. I am not bashing ZB but when you start a forum with them, you are basically stuck with them and stuck with the limitations whether you like it or not. 3 years time you might end up regretting being with ZB.

GAK said:
I hope this isn't considered advertising, it's not my board, but take a look at the "Outline Nova" theme on http://outlineforum.com and tell me that ZB sucks after that. Go on, I dare you to have the nerve to say it. That theme is top notch (with the ability to change the background of it to ANY image) and I've yet to see any other theme with that capability.
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Themes are always down to people opinions. NEVER will there be a theme that everyone likes. You may like that theme... I don't see it as anything special. Also a great theme in your opinion doesn't make the software great as a whole great. There are alot more to forums then themes.
Exactly. The people hating on ZB are those that refuse to change.
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Your annoyed that people are so against ZB, some people are equally as annoyed that you are seem so determined to make everyone agree with you. For you it might be perfect but for many it is not perfect and want to do more and for that reason don't think ZB is all that good. Not everybody else has to agree with you. Your comment quoted above sounds like you are saying you are right and other people are wrong and we won't agree with you. Why should we? We are entitled to our opinion. Accept people differ with opinion and don't get so worked up by people not agreeing with you.
Anyone that says ZB is crap obviously hasn't used it very much.
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Another example of where you seem to suggest that just because someone doesn't agree with you that we haven't used it much. How do you know? People can use it alot and not like it aswell. Everybody has different opinions which is why the world is the way it is. Once again you seem to suggest that everyone that disagrees is wrong. Your statement above could easily be turned on its head and used against you and the other people that prefer ZB.

At the end of the day, use what you want to use and prefer. People are entitled to their opinion and it shouldn't be your mission to change peoples opinions or use a statement such as "Anyone that says ZB is crap obviously hasn't used it very much" to suggest that their opinion is wrong and shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
I don't know if people pretend to hate it just so they fit in or what, because most people don't even use ZetaBoards before, I imagine for iF and Forumotion because people think it's like phpBB after using a bunch of xenForo and IPB and stuff. As far as everything else goes, the next 5% are just true facts. I didn't like ZetaBoards at first, but people have done the same thing as I used to do- use it for 10 minutes and start complaining. Some people actually think ZetaBoards is hard to use, and actually probably judge it for the general appearance. What I mean is because of the unusual url. People are probably not getting the idea, they ditch Zetaboards because they are used to having 100 mods on their phpBB forum or something and then, since it isn't the case for ZetaBoards, they start hating on it even though there is a lot more to it. Although ZetaBoards is a great software and all, people continue to use phpBB and xenForo. Well, I'd take FreeForums instead of ZetaBoards any day as well. :lol:
 
Fowler, can I not share my OWN opinion too? Am I not allowed to disagree with you? Just because I don't give into your arguments and counter with my own, that doesn't mean I'm upset. It's called having a discussion, but I guess you're a part of the crowd that thinks posting one time on a topic is enough...

Anyways, I'm done with this discussion. Trying to talk to you guys about this is such a waste of my time and I have so many better things to do.
 
I am not saying you are not entitled to your opinion but you seem to have been quite aggressively trying to get people to like ZB and put down people who disagree with you. You can put across you opinion if you want but really you don't need to say things like "Anyone that says ZB is crap obviously hasn't used it very much". That is basically saying that anyone who disagrees with you obviously doesn't have enough experience of ZB to make a valid opinion.

It is ok to have a civilized debate while respecting other people opinions and not making bold claims to make the people that don't share you opinion seem to be wrong. There is no right or wrong. Don't take it so seriously or be so aggressive over it. Your posts in this topic have been coming across like that to anyone that doesn't agree with you.

Anyways, I'm done with this discussion. Trying to talk to you guys about this is such a waste of my time and I have so many better things to do.
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Why is it a waste of time voicing your opinion? You voice your opinion and then you have achieved what you want. It doesn't matter whether people agree or not. If people disagree with your opinion then it doesn't make it a waste of your time. You still have put across how you feel. It can only become a waste when you do not achieve what you want and trying to do something more then giving your opinion on a matter. I am guessing what you wanted was to change peoples opinions.

Just because I am voicing my opinion and giving my opinion on the way your are forcing your opinion on other people, doesn't make me right, you wrong or mean that i am not allowing you to give your opinion. You can post, you can log into to the site, none of your posts have been edited (by me anyway) so I am not stopping you giving your opinion am I? I just don't fully agree with what you are saying.
 
How can you have a valid opinion if you haven't even used the software? Please explain that to me. Thanks.
 
What makes you think I have never used the software? I have never said I have never used the software because I have used it. I wouldn't be giving my opinion if I hadn't tried it. You have just assumed I haven't used ZB.
 
Fowler said:
What makes you think I have never used the software? I have never said I have never used the software because I have used it. I wouldn't be giving my opinion if I hadn't tried it. You have just assumed I haven't used ZB.
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I was not saying that. I was referring to this part of your post: That is basically saying that anyone who disagrees with you obviously doesn't have enough experience of ZB to make a valid opinion.

If you don't have experience with ZB, you don't have a valid opinion. You may have an opinion, but it isn't a very valid one because you obviously wouldn't know what you're talking about.

And by you, I use that in general, not you personally.
 
From when you said "Anyone that says ZB is crap obviously hasn't used it very much", it sounds like you are saying that everyone that dislikes ZB hasn't used it a great deal. Whether you meant that to come across like that is another matter though. I agree that some people do give opinions without really basing it on much experience and as Hiocoie925 said, just do it to fit in with the crowd. However not everbody is like that and not everybody that dislikes ZB are like that. Some people are not a fan of ZB and have used it. As I said in previous posts, for some people and some forums, ZB could be more then good enough to use. If you don't want to have to spend too much time running it or you are just running a forum for a bit of fun and not taking it too seriously then ZB would be great.
 
For those who enjoy InvisionFree due to it being on IPB, it's not even the best iPB provider out there, JCink is a way better provider for free IPB 1.3 hosting 🙂 However, ZetaBoards is great especially if it's in the hands of a decent coder who can really take it to new levels with the tweaks and modifications. If I ever had to move my forums onto a free provider for whatever reason, I'd go with ZB or Jcink before even considering anywhere else. 🙂
 
These hosts aren't bad. They offer a service, people like the service and choose to use it. It's just not for everyone obviously. Some of us would rather do the whole "self-hosted" thing and have more control.
 
GAK, I assume you know who I am, and yes I have used ZetaBoards for nearly 3 years, and I hate it. So yes, my opinion must be valid. It's not a good software. Let's see, why is it remotely hosted? Does it not seem similar to IPB 1.3 to you, seems like maybe an upgraded version of IPB 1.3, if it wasn't it'd most likely be released. If you've noticed, only decent softwares are ever released for download, ZB was not. Proboards isn't very nice either, why do you think it's remotely hosted?

ZetaBoards lacks where every other software excels.
And this alone, negates anything you can argue Gak.
http://www.forum-software.org/forum-com ... zetaboards
 
How does that negate anything I can argue? That is ONE SITE and that is all opinion based anyways...
 
GAK said:
Still, that doesn't "negate my argument".
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Could you please repeat your argument? It's just all here and there among all the bickering, so a clear, concise argument would be helpful so I can reply to you 🙂
 
I would be glad to, except I don't have an argument. I have an opinion. 😉
 
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