Abortion

[Gimgak]

It's not natural because she should have kept her legs closed. Let's punish her by forcing her to carry an unwanted and unloved baby.

:great: But how are we going to get the fertilized egg back up the vagina, and attached to the uterine lining? Duct tape? Uterine lining tape?

Well it's her fault for opening her legs. She killed a life because of what she did. I want her to get the death penalty, because i'm pro life.

Life in prison is sufficient for me :shrug:

Well I'm pro life, so I support the death penalty and I'm against universal healthcare.

In that case, how are we going to kill her? Should we stone her? That seems like a good idea.

Let a medical company run tests on her

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I know this is extreme, but read the article below.
"* Gosnell routinely induced labor in patients in their second and third trimesters rather than perform risky late-term abortions. That sometimes resulted in live births. He and his staffers killed the babies by stabbing their necks with scissors to sever their spinal cords and sometimes suctioning their skulls, too. About a baby writhing as he cut its neck, Gosnell joked to a staffer: "That's what you call a chicken with its head cut off.""
Killing babies already born has happened at multiple clinics as well.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/11426 ... d=15585797

 

[katy perry is hot]

Yes I heard about that guy. I don't see how that's a political issue though.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

He was violating laws by killing babies after they were born. He didn't have a OBGYN license (or any of the staff), and the state only investegated him late in the game in fear of infringing on woman's "rights."

 

[katy perry is hot]

He was violating laws by killing babies after they were born. He didn't have a OBGYN license (or any of the staff), and the state only investegated him late in the game in fear of infringing on woman's "rights."

That's just pure infanticide though. Fact is if abortion is illegal this will be the norm for every woman who wants one 🙂

 

[Joel]

I say no to abortion. Its bad, its cruel. Letting the baby die just like that isn't a good thing.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Obama, then the person killing the baby would be prosecuted for murder. I don't know how many people would risk life in jail for a few hundred dollars.

 

[Gimgak]

Obama, then the person killing the baby would be prosecuted for murder. I don't know how many people would risk life in jail for a few hundred dollars.

In the case of the woman, it would cost her a bit more than a few hundred dollars to have the baby 😉

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Obama, then the person killing the baby would be prosecuted for murder. I don't know how many people would risk life in jail for a few hundred dollars.

In the case of the woman, it would cost her a bit more than a few hundred dollars to have the baby 😉

In the case of the doctor, it would cost more than a few hundred dollars to get a good defense team so that he/she does not spend their life in prison or get the death penalty.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Obama, then the person killing the baby would be prosecuted for murder. I don't know how many people would risk life in jail for a few hundred dollars.

In the case of the woman, it would cost her a bit more than a few hundred dollars to have the baby 😉

In the case of the doctor, it would cost more than a few hundred dollars to get a good defense team so that he/she does not spend their life in prison or get the death penalty.

i'm talking mainly about big frank or whoever else is operating the coat hanger in the run down shop at 2:30 in the morning. And even then, we both know doctors will continue with this procedure, just now off the books and not with the same amount of tight regulation and medical control.


Joel, it's cruel to force a woman to have a child she doesn't want, and even crueler to make that child be raised by a woman who doesn't want it.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Completely off the current topic: Obama, do you think it is ethical/should be legal for a doctor to induce labor at (let's say) 3 months, have the baby be delivered alive, and have the doctor kill it (eg with a pair of scissors)?

-- Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:12 pm --

Obama, then the person killing the baby would be prosecuted for murder. I don't know how many people would risk life in jail for a few hundred dollars.

In the case of the woman, it would cost her a bit more than a few hundred dollars to have the baby 😉

In the case of the doctor, it would cost more than a few hundred dollars to get a good defense team so that he/she does not spend their life in prison or get the death penalty.

i'm talking mainly about big frank or whoever else is operating the coat hanger in the run down shop at 2:30 in the morning. And even then, we both know doctors will continue with this procedure, just now off the books and not with the same amount of tight regulation and medical control.

That's a load of shît right there and you know it. Look at the Philadelphia clinic, look at Tiller's former clinic (yeah, blah blah blah, it's on a pro-life show, but do you really think the girl is lying?). There is no "regulation" because if there was strict regulation, then women would battle it saying that it infringes on their "rights."

 

[katy perry is hot]

Completely off the current topic: Obama, do you think it is ethical/should be legal for a doctor to induce labor at (let's say) 3 months, have the baby be delivered alive, and have the doctor kill it (eg with a pair of scissors)?

I don't know what part of safe, legal, and rare,you don't seem to understand in my statements. If that has to be done, then yes. In issues of risk to the mother's life, or if the fetus will be born with severe defects, then yes, of course it's ok. For elective reasons, no.

Also, keep in mind referring to Tiller, that those late term abortions are less than 1.5 percent of the amount of abortions performed nationally... http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5511a1.htm

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Completely off the current topic: Obama, do you think it is ethical/should be legal for a doctor to induce labor at (let's say) 3 months, have the baby be delivered alive, and have the doctor kill it (eg with a pair of scissors)?

I don't know what part of safe, legal, and rare,you don't seem to understand in my statements. If that has to be done, then yes. In issues of risk to the mother's life, or if the fetus will be born with severe defects, then yes, of course it's ok. For elective reasons, no.

See I completely understand that, but the point that I was making is that if a 3 month old baby (3 months in the womb that it) and it is aborted in the uterus, you seem to have no problem with that. However, it seems that if the baby is born (without defects that is) you object to it being killed. What difference does it make if it is in the womb or not? In both cases it is murder.

Also, keep in mind referring to Tiller, that those late term abortions are less than 1.5 percent of the amount of abortions performed nationally... http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5511a1.htm

I completely understand that. Also, in a lot of states, late term abortions are illegal (NY, PA to name two).

 

[katy perry is hot]

I, like the majority of pro choicers in congress, support abortion as long as it's before viability. I was just thinking of a baby in general and didn't realize you specified 3 months... in the case of a 3 month old baby, obviously it isn't going to live, and if that is the only option to perform an abortion (ie the vacuum method failed) then I would support it. In the cases where people go for abortions at 6 months in because they don't want it, I am totally against. That is pure infanticide because of one fact: The baby can live by itself.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Legally speaking, if a 3mo was born and then killed, would it be murder?
(I don't know the answer tbh)

 

[katy perry is hot]

Legally speaking, if a 3mo was born and then killed, would it be murder?
(I don't know the answer tbh)

I don't think so because if it were murder then many abortion procedures would just be totally illegal in every case.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

But don't they kill (or abort, terminate, w/e term) in the uterus most of the time?

 

[katy perry is hot]

But don't they kill (or abort, terminate, w/e term) in the uterus most of the time?

Most abortions (like 90 percent) are performed in the first trimester via the vacuum method. They don't actually like go in and stab it in order to abort the fetus. I don't get what you're saying?

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Because you said most abortion procedures would be completely illegal.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Because you said most abortion procedures would be completely illegal.

What???????