Advertising other Advertising forums

fantanoice said:
Yes you will see the exact same people... but really who cares?
Nobody. That's why people stick with FP and not 'new' promotion forums. They're not getting anything special or any new exposure from the smaller site, so why bother joining?

I think promotion forum Admins need to get more creative with their advertising schemes. There are thousands of forum owners who don't utilise these, so why not target 'them' instead of the exact same promotion forum lurkers?

Are they getting exposure worth anything here either? Advertising on a promotion forum is never going to do anywhere near what targeted advertising does. Joe Blows pen site will do incredibly better just posting on the other established pen forums with a link in his signature. You know who does gain a good deal of members here? Promotion forums as this is exactly the targeted advertising it needs.

Forum owners who do not use sites like this to advertise are normally more educated on how search engines and SEO work and gain their members through search engines. If they were having issues they would be actively searching for ways to promote instead of doing it internally. How do you suppose advertising forums go and target these other forums? Using google wont really provide much help as these forums are already listed. The only places I could see making any sort of impact would be "free forum" host's support forums as these people normally are in need of a great deal of help. (That's not actually a bad idea at all)

Promotion forums that advertise here are leeching off a memberbase that believes advertising on these types of forums is the way to get big and popular. Hell I was like this for awhile but once I snapped out of it I was able to get a fairly large forum in the gaming genre and had it up to #5 on google for "gaming forums" and "video gaming forums".

I'm not saying people are guaranteed to join a new promotion forum advertised here on FP... but that new promotion forum will get a lot more clicks than Joe Blows pen forum (or any other forum posted here... yea the pen is kinda lame but it's just an example) would ever get. Because here, on FP, people come with a purpose and that is to advertise their own forums. Joining that new pen forum wont help them with their goal but many believe that new advertising forum just might when really it is just a big cycle in which noone outside of the promotion forum wins.

Promotion forums have become a self sufficent machine and will just continue to grow as more novice webmasters start forums and look for that quick fix to getting activity.
 
Yeah, you'll notice that 90% of the posts in the Basic Promotion section are from the forums' owners themselves. Threads rotate faster in there than a downhill stream of water. 😵
 
We're not debating how effective promotion forums are, we're debating the effectiveness of promoting a promotion forum on a promotion forum. You're going off on a tangent, just so you know.

Forum owners who do not use sites like this to advertise are normally more educated on how search engines and SEO work and gain their members through search engines. If they were having issues they would be actively searching for ways to promote instead of doing it internally. How do you suppose advertising forums go and target these other forums? Using google wont really provide much help as these forums are already listed. The only places I could see making any sort of impact would be "free forum" host's support forums as these people normally are in need of a great deal of help. (That's not actually a bad idea at all)
Again, this is a debate on the effectiveness of promotion forums and for the record, only a handful of Admins know how to efficiently optimise their search engine results, but a whole lot more don't.

-and much of that 'whole lot more' crowd don't use promotion forums either.

Promotion forums that advertise here are leeching off a memberbase that believes advertising on these types of forums is the way to get big and popular. Hell I was like this for awhile but once I snapped out of it I was able to get a fairly large forum in the gaming genre and had it up to #5 on google for "gaming forums" and "video gaming forums".
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
 
fantanoice said:
We're not debating how effective promotion forums are, we're debating the effectiveness of promoting a promotion forum on a promotion forum. You're going off on a tangent, just so you know.

Which was what my first response said was it not? It is very effective advertising a promotion forum on another promotion forum because members here come to advertise. Promotion forums get the most response out of any type of forum that you could promote here because it is something that almost everyone here has in common... they want to promote.

Yes I went off tangent some just to show a comparison of how much more effective it is to advertise a promotion forum on another promotion forum than to advertise anything else here.

fantanoice said:
Again, this is a debate on the effectiveness of promotion forums and for the record, only a handful of Admins know how to efficiently optimise their search engine results, but a whole lot more don't.

-and much of that 'whole lot more' crowd don't use promotion forums either.

And I posed a question on how promotion forums are going to locate struggling forums to advertise on. Which I also provided a way to drive in new struggling forum owners.


I don't see how my original post did not respond to the authors question. It is extremely effective and though it is an endless loop, it is a very successful one and a very logical way to get a jump start. It is targeted advertising and put in a place where almost everyone here is already interested in the subject. As my example said... you don't want to advertise your pen forum here but it is the easiest place to advertise your promotion forum.
 
Well, advertising forums need to be advertised so they can get people to advertise their sites.

I use advertise 3 times in a sentence.
 
Whaturmuva, you have basically interpreted the whole thing to suit your argument. We are not talking about promotion forums advertising on others so they are the winners. We are talking about the fact that you promote on one forum (eg. FP1) and then on FP1 there is another promotion forum (eg. FP2) so people see that there is a FP2 so they promote there as well. You decide to promote on FP2, but really, you are getting the same members as FP1. How does that actually help? On FP1, you see that forum, click it once, go onto FP2, why would you click that forum again if you already have clicked it? Pointless much?

If you get a forum of duplicate members, you are not in search for promotion, rather the unique services, eg. posting packages, reviews, and some free ads.

You say SEO, well, if you make two identical topics, of course the more established, PR'ed site will get noticed amongst all. Then the others may or may not be listed. They may not have a PR, let alone that page. You get little, if not any, SEO points from those topics, in fact it actually helps the promotion forum more.
 
I can't disagree. The title of the topic skewed my view of the posts before mine. I was interpreting it more as "Why advertise other advertising forums on an advertising forum" rather than "Why advertise on multiple advertising forums". I agree if you are going to go to any you should stick with the highest ranked and most active. I was defending the fact that promotion forums are getting the most out of their time advertising on other promotion forums rather than lets say going to a gaming forum and promoting there. The forum owners flocking to each promotion forum made are not getting anything special out of it outside of a link that will normally mean nothing to search engines as it is normally not even remotely related to the site they are advertising.

It seems like my misinterpretation had us arguing two different topics in one thread. One side was saying "Advertising a random forum on multiple promotion forums was useless" and the other "Advertising promotion forums on other promotion forums is the best way to garner activity".
Oops :shrug:​
 
That's fine 🙂 As long as you see what Fanta and I were getting at, its all good.

If it was what you were saying then you would of had a strong argument.

So really, I personally would stick to the better known to advertised and the others for the services.
 
The more the merrier I say, everyone's gotta start somewhere and even Advertising forums need a start point. Healthy competition is always a good thing!!!
 
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