Apple vs. Android/Other

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

1.

You did not read it right, they had LTE but it was not deployed enough to make it useful. Apple waited till consumers could use it.

So consumers pay for it yet couldn't use it. Very good way to spend money from consumers point of view.

2. You will say it, because you don't care which is actually better. If you did, you would have noticed that Nokia Lumia 925 trashes iPhone 5's camera quality

3. Really mature reply.

4. You didn't find it any faster, you had already made up your mind.

5. Not even all the upper class people, people who don't care about what they get for the money they spend, Some Apple devices fans, People who would like to show off, And some genuine people who like Apple products for what they are.
Android is for poor people? Really? Again a very mature reply.

6. I don't care if you doubt it. I doubt you're Steve Jobs' ghost.

7. If you acquire a company, no one would call it an innovation! And especially when the company trashes all the old companies plans.

8. Are you kidding me now? Xerox even filed a case against apple. Xerox had the desktop and Mac's desktop ui was very much alike.

9. Android stole patented material? Get your facts straight before coming up with such nonsense replies dude.

10. Who gives a *** about supporting american executives? Also did you not know, Apple was paying Samsung for microchips until recently. FYI Samsung is Korean Company.

11. BGR -No video to prove their results
ibtimes - again no video
insanemobiels - I could have set up and written a better blog and blog post.
zdnet: The test was conducted by SquareTrade, which is a iPhone accessories company. Obviously the result would be biased!

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

1.

You did not read it right, they had LTE but it was not deployed enough to make it useful. Apple waited till consumers could use it.

So consumers pay for it yet couldn't use it. Very good way to spend money from consumers point of view.

2. You will say it, because you don't care which is actually better. If you did, you would have noticed that Nokia Lumia 925 trashes iPhone 5's camera quality

3. Really mature reply.

4. You didn't find it any faster, you had already made up your mind.

5. Not even all the upper class people, people who don't care about what they get for the money they spend, Some Apple devices fans, People who would like to show off, And some genuine people who like Apple products for what they are.
Android is for poor people? Really? Again a very mature reply.

6. I don't care if you doubt it. I doubt you're Steve Jobs' ghost.

7. If you acquire a company, no one would call it an innovation! And especially when the company trashes all the old companies plans.

8. Are you kidding me now? Xerox even filed a case against apple. Xerox had the desktop and Mac's desktop ui was very much alike.

9. Android stole patented material? Get your facts straight before coming up with such nonsense replies dude.

10. Who gives a *** about supporting american executives? Also did you not know, Apple was paying Samsung for microchips until recently. FYI Samsung is Korean Company.

11. BGR -No video to prove their results
ibtimes - again no video
insanemobiels - I could have set up and written a better blog and blog post.
zdnet: The test was conducted by Squarade, which is a iPhone accessories company. Obviously the result would be biased!

1)Yes, that is what Samsung and other companies did. Apple waited.
2) The 925 does not trash it. Use comparison pics
4) Who are you to tell me if I made up my mind or not? I did not, and it was just as fast as my iPhone 5.
5)You implied it, not me.
7) That is called competition! Apple got it first, so the others lost!
8) Well it looks like Apple made out as the winner...
9)Samsung steals patented materials, that is for sure. I am sure Android has stolen plenty of Apple features.
10) I do, and so should almost every american companies. Apple is the homegrown product. People complain about things made overseas and when they are they endorse them...
11) Please, you know it is a fact that iP5 is more durable then the S4, I gave you more results and that video could be biased, too.

 

[xpl0iter]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

1. Apple waited, but you said they had the technology already. So that would denying the technology to the people who would be able to use it. Not a good move imo.
2. It does trash it, see the pictures in low light and compare them!
4. Because any sane minded person who haven't made up their mind could easily tell that HTC One and SGS4 is a lot faster than iPhone5. That leaves you 2 choices!
5. I made my implication very clear.
7. You contradict your own statements. First you said being first doesn't matter in case of LTE. Now you say being first is everything! You were talking about innovation. And I was just saying Siri can't be called an innovation from Apple.
8. There is no winner in this game. Everyone makes profit. You're simply arguing for the sake of arguments. And nothing else!
9. Samsung has done it I know. But Android has done it? Show me atleast a couple of cases where android lost in a legal action for theft of patented ideas/features. iOS has stolen a lot of features from android btw. Do a little research and you will see it!
10. Didn't you read what I wrote, Apple buys several parts from Foxconn and Samsung. So your argument doesn't stand!
11. You gave me more results, but none of them are valid because of the reasons I mentioned! That video I gave you could be biased, but that video shows it atleast in a believable manner.

 

[iPhonefreak]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

1. Apple waited, but you said they had the technology already. So that would denying the technology to the people who would be able to use it. Not a good move imo.
2. It does trash it, see the pictures in low light and compare them!
4. Because any sane minded person who haven't made up their mind could easily tell that HTC One and SGS4 is a lot faster than iPhone5. That leaves you 2 choices!
5. I made my implication very clear.
7. You contradict your own statements. First you said being first doesn't matter in case of LTE. Now you say being first is everything! You were talking about innovation. And I was just saying Siri can't be called an innovation from Apple.
8. There is no winner in this game. Everyone makes profit. You're simply arguing for the sake of arguments. And nothing else!
9. Samsung has done it I know. But Android has done it? Show me atleast a couple of cases where android lost in a legal action for theft of patented ideas/features. iOS has stolen a lot of features from android btw. Do a little research and you will see it!
10. Didn't you read what I wrote, Apple buys several parts from Foxconn and Samsung. So your argument doesn't stand!
11. You gave me more results, but none of them are valid because of the reasons I mentioned! That video I gave you could be biased, but that video shows it atleast in a believable manner.

1) I meant the countries had LTE.
2) I looked at it, and it does not trash it, but It is indeed better. The S4 was worse then the 5, FYI.
4) I just read a performance review of the 2 phones and "When you’re using both phones, though, the performance difference doesn’t feel that big. In fact, I can’t say that anything on the iPhone 5 feels a whole lot slower than it does on the GS4."
7)We are talking about 2 different things! Being first of LTE is useless, because if your area does not have LTE, then its useless! Apple waited till the market expanded, where one tower is upgraded to LTE and they all jump on the bandwagon. Where Siri, was a first out there and if you had the phone you could use it.
8)Apple makes a bigger profit
9)What has iOS stolen? Lets see what Android has stolen...EVERYTHING. Apple targets the manufactures.
10) Samsung Mobile and the Samsung that makes the chips are 2 different things, and Samsung can not be trusted which is why Apple is moving away. Foxxcon is a 3rd party that puts it all together.
11) It is all over the freckin internet that the S4 is more likely to break then the 5!

 

[R44]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

Apple waited until people could actually use LTE in a widespread area, not just in a few cities.

Ha hahahhahahahhaha - I still can't get LTE at home, in the MIDDLE of Sydney.

 

[Fait]

Re: 614% rise in mobile malware

His not joking Android is based on the Linux OS, I have read myself that android can get affected by viruses or malware. Samsung likes taking there bringing the jelly bean update to australia

 

[Gray]

Since this has turned into a debate, rather than a discussion, I have split the topic and moved it into the Debate Corner.

It's obvious we all have different opinions on the matter, but lets stay respectful of each other's views. 😉

Thanks. 🙂

 

[Luke]

9)What has iOS stolen? Lets see what Android has stolen...EVERYTHING. Apple targets the manufactures.

I haven't even seen one thing Android has stolen. iOS seems to be the one stealing the ideas recently.

Let's look at the things iOS 7 obviously stole:

1. Control Center, it looks basically just like Samsung/Android's Control Center.
2. Lock screen design.

Really no need to explain that one!
3. Weather Application:

4. Multitasking:

5. Calling:

There's a large amount of things Apple copied. I have no problem with it, but you're buffoon if you say Apple has copied nothing from Android.

iOS 7 is basically Apple's attempt at catching up at the other mobile operating systems. It was needed if Apple wanted to stay in the game, because the others were getting far ahead with their features.

 

[xpl0iter]

1. A lot of countreis had LTE before iPhone 5 was launched. A lot of countries still don't have LTE but again launched the LTE iPhone5 over there too. So Apple never gives a chance for choosing, what customers like. There is no use for LTE in many countries, still they had to pay for it. Now, this is my friend, what I meant.
2. In very low light conditions, the pictures were grainy and not clear, this is what I call trashing. I don't care if SGS4 didn't have a camera in the first place! Its all about people are given with choices. If they(people who want android as the os) care a lot about Camera phone, they could by HTC One or Samsung Galaxy Camera itself lol.
3. You're becoming soft on this now? You said it was the same, now, you're saying its not the same, but not a whole lot slower. What next?
7. Being first of anything is useless. Being the best is somewhat useful. Siri was never an innovation from Apple, thats what I said. Siri is a good product from apple, no aruments over that. Its just NOT an innovation from APPLE.
8. APPLE make bigger profit because they does slavory in China. They spend very less on the manufacturing products. And another Good reason is Apple iPhone is not a crap product, their Mac systems are somewhat awesome and other things like that.
9. IOS stole everything good from all the good parts of android, windows phone and a lot more!
10. So they are different parts of the same company, so what? You said, you should suport Apple because Apple is an American company and its good for America. First of all I don't give damn if its good for USA. Then second of all, Apple does its manufacturing in other places too, like China for one. Then Apple, buys stuffs from Korean companies like Foxconn and Samsung. So by buying Apple products you indeed are supporting other countries too. Seriously though, I don't care if I support other countries by buying their products. I said this to make it clear that your argument doesn't stand.
11. SGS4 has Corning Gorilla Glass 3, instead of iPhone 5's Corning Gorilla Glass 1. Now if the diaply is going to break, the iPhone 5's display will be the first one. And SGS4 looks like it will break because its made of plastic, but in fact it doesn't break that easily. And even if it breaks it will be a hell lot cheaper to change the cover compared o iPhone 5. But again, I believe what that video showed. You video was biased.

His not joking Android is based on the Linux OS, I have read myself that android can get affected by viruses or malware. Samsung likes taking there bringing the jelly bean update to australia

You kidding me?
Android is based on Linux OS and without rooting it no app basically can communicate directly with the underlying linux. Thats because the user apps run on the java virtual machine, not on Linux.

Now do you know what iOS is? Its the mobile version of OSX. OSX is is a unix based OS.
Now Linux is a Unix clone written from scratch by Linus Torvalds with the help of some other people.

So basically they are like different flavours of ice cream. This is not something you should take into consideration when deciding who's got the more number of malwares. and ys android has got more malwares. That was the topic title actually. We just don't agree with 99% of the mobile malwares come from android.

 

[Mik.]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

 

[Luke]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

Yup, and it will be interesting to watch all the companies sue them 😛 Could be the end of Apple, other companies could sue the hell out of Apple.

 

[iPhonefreak]

9)What has iOS stolen? Lets see what Android has stolen...EVERYTHING. Apple targets the manufactures.

I haven't even seen one thing Android has stolen. iOS seems to be the one stealing the ideas recently.

Let's look at the things iOS 7 obviously stole:

1. Control Center, it looks basically just like Samsung/Android's Control Center.
2. Lock screen design.

Really no need to explain that one!
3. Weather Application:

4. Multitasking:

5. Calling:

There's a large amount of things Apple copied. I have no problem with it, but you're buffoon if you say Apple has copied nothing from Android.

iOS 7 is basically Apple's attempt at catching up at the other mobile operating systems. It was needed if Apple wanted to stay in the game, because the others were getting far ahead with their features.

I don't think the pictures you posted are 100% stock....

Android doesn't have the flat loo, which this is Apples flat look.

 

[Luke]

Yahoo one is Yahoo's weather application and the others either come with Android or are HTC/Samsung's skins. Still copying no matter!

 

[iPhonefreak]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

Yup, and it will be interesting to watch all the companies sue them 😛 Could be the end of Apple, other companies could sue the hell out of Apple.

Oh please, that's absurd to say. Apple is protecting this with all they got.<br /><br />-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:33 pm --<br /><br />

Yahoo one is Yahoo's weather application and the others either come with Android or are HTC/Samsung's skins. Still copying no matter!

Did you make that graphic?

 

[Luke]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

Yup, and it will be interesting to watch all the companies sue them 😛 Could be the end of Apple, other companies could sue the hell out of Apple.

Oh please, that's absurd to say. Apple is protecting this with all they got.

-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:33 pm --

Yahoo one is Yahoo's weather application and the others either come with Android or are HTC/Samsung's skins. Still copying no matter!

Did you make that graphic?

If Apple can get away with suing other companies for pointless reasons, the Android lawyers will be licking their lips. It's going to be pay day for them!

No I didn't make them, I found them off tech blogs =]

 

[iPhonefreak]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

Yup, and it will be interesting to watch all the companies sue them 😛 Could be the end of Apple, other companies could sue the hell out of Apple.

Oh please, that's absurd to say. Apple is protecting this with all they got.

-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:33 pm --

Yahoo one is Yahoo's weather application and the others either come with Android or are HTC/Samsung's skins. Still copying no matter!

Did you make that graphic?

If Apple can get away with suing other companies for pointless reasons, the Android lawyers will be licking their lips. It's going to be pay day for them!

No I didn't make them, I found them off tech blogs =]

They won't sue, they can't sue really.

Can you link them please?

 

[Quacker Jack]

Wow Luke. I was unaware of all of those things. They really do look like Apple copied. O.O I have nothing to say....

Yup, and it will be interesting to watch all the companies sue them 😛 Could be the end of Apple, other companies could sue the hell out of Apple.

Oh please, that's absurd to say. Apple is protecting this with all they got.

-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:33 pm --

Yahoo one is Yahoo's weather application and the others either come with Android or are HTC/Samsung's skins. Still copying no matter!

Did you make that graphic?

If Apple can get away with suing other companies for pointless reasons, the Android lawyers will be licking their lips. It's going to be pay day for them!

No I didn't make them, I found them off tech blogs =]

They won't sue, they can't sue really.

Can you link them please?

Frankly, I hate to say it but I feel like Android would sue them if this is actually true. I am sure they would have no problems going after Apple considering they did the same first. Even though frankly, some of the features are really trivial and no brainers. However, I will state as a neutral person that Apple's new design, while it looks a lot nicer, looks like it took a lot of inspiration from the aforementioned devices.

 

[xpl0iter]

However, I will state as a neutral person that Apple's new design, while it looks a lot nicer, looks like it took a lot of inspiration from the aforementioned devices.

Apple's iOS7 looks awesome. We all agree that. But people saying only Apple comes with innovative sh*ts and they never copy anyone are really a turn off. I mean yeah, they all copy the good stuffs, but then why argue saying they don't.

Also most of their battles are simply pathetic. For example look at this legal battle
They actually patented a design which is a shape like a rectangle with rounded edges and decided that Samsung copied their design, how absurd is that! Thank god that judge made a fare judgement.

 

[iPhonefreak]

However, I will state as a neutral person that Apple's new design, while it looks a lot nicer, looks like it took a lot of inspiration from the aforementioned devices.

Apple's iOS7 looks awesome. We all agree that. But people saying only Apple comes with innovative sh*ts and they never copy anyone are really a turn off. I mean yeah, they all copy the good stuffs, but then why argue saying they don't.

Also most of their battles are simply pathetic. For example look at this legal battle
They actually patented a design which is a shape like a rectangle with rounded edges and decided that Samsung copied their design, how absurd is that! Thank god that judge made a fare judgement.

It's much more then rectangles and such, it's patenting their square design. Because everyone would flock to they form factor, because that's what they did with the the rounded edges.

Must i remind everyone of http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/techn ... .html?_r=0

 

[xpl0iter]

There were mobiles from HTC long before iPhone 4/4s/5 which had the design square with rounded edges. I am pretty sure that a lot of other manufacturers did have the same design too.

These round edges and square edges is not an invention from Apple, and that, judge from the link I gave you, realized that. Some judges fail to realize that and I guess I have an idea why lol!