katy perry is hot
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So we've argued it in other topics, but I figured it deserves its own. Yes/no/only some cases? What do you think??
Death penalty
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No as it has been shown mistakes can happen
and once some one has been put to death it to late if later it is found they did not commit the crime .
i think life in jail would be a better idea and when i say life i mean life
and once some one has been put to death it to late if later it is found they did not commit the crime .
i think life in jail would be a better idea and when i say life i mean life
This is always such a hot topic. You know it should be decided in a case-by-case basis. I mean there are some times where you know the murder was on accident. Not every murderer deserves to die. The ones that kill multiple times, kill women, kill children, or kill for fun that are mentally crazy should be the ones getting sentenced to death.
But then the moral factor comes in saying, "Well can we just kill them because they have killed?" It's a multi-sided debate here. Let's see what we get 🙂
But then the moral factor comes in saying, "Well can we just kill them because they have killed?" It's a multi-sided debate here. Let's see what we get 🙂
Hobbies230
Resident
I'm all for it on a case by case basis.
katy perry is hot
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What case by case basis though? Which cases exactly?
And fiona makes a good point. There still are always chances of the person being innocent, and plus, it's more of a punishment to have murderers spend their lives in prison anyway.
And fiona makes a good point. There still are always chances of the person being innocent, and plus, it's more of a punishment to have murderers spend their lives in prison anyway.
Case-by-case being, was the murder planned? Did the person just want revenge because the guy killed his daughter and never got tried for it. I can't think of EXACT cases right now, but I agree with your mentality that the murderer being in prison for the rest of his life is a much greater punishment than being killed.
Hobbies230
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It may seem like that, but I think the only people able to make a proper judgement like that would be those who actually are spending their lives in prison. Death may seem like the better option for obvious reasons, but when it comes down to it I don't think there are many people that would honestly admit that they'd prefer to die than to live, even if it means living a life in confinement. (You also have to take into factors such as which prison they are in, their particular level of confinement, etc.)Irviding said:
In an age where DNA technology is a valuable tool I think that there can be little doubt of guilt. It's not like back in the day when Timothy Evans was tried and executed in 1950 for the murder of his baby daughter Geraldine.Sixteen years later an official inquiry determined that it was Evans fellow tenant, serial killer John Reginald Halliday Christie, who was responsible for the murder. Evans was pardoned posthumously following this, in 1966. Had DNA services been available this would not have happened.
I do believe that there should be a tiered system of intent, like with America, murder in the first, second etc. I think here in the UK that law is now being passed. Mitigating circumstances obviously do make a difference to a sentencing. Pure evil for evils sake should be dealt with by death in my opinion. Tax payers should not pay to keep these evil people alive and in comfort. If you kill someone you should pay the price.
I do believe that there should be a tiered system of intent, like with America, murder in the first, second etc. I think here in the UK that law is now being passed. Mitigating circumstances obviously do make a difference to a sentencing. Pure evil for evils sake should be dealt with by death in my opinion. Tax payers should not pay to keep these evil people alive and in comfort. If you kill someone you should pay the price.
I don't think the death penalty should be used anywhere in any case. It's an eye for an eye kind of thing. Murder whether or not it is deserving (it never is) is still murder. Therefore execution and the death penalty is a form of murder no matter what the case.
Hobbies230
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Tax payers are still paying for the drugs and manpower involved in executions, as well as the sometimes lengthy legal process that it will take for the criminal to finally receive their conviction and death sentence.MissTake said:
It should depend on the circumstance. There are just some cases where it is obvious that no mistake was made and we are dealing with a person with no conscience. Other than that just keeping a person locked away seems inhumane but how many chances should we give people. I like to think everyone can change but I know better.
Family Chat
Acquaintance
I don't agree with the death penalty for the same reasons someone else mentioned. The death penalty is still killing. What right does a judge or jury have to say if someone lives or dies? Killing someone for killing someone just feels wrong to me.
But I do think prison should be tougher for people who commit terrible crimes. Giving them TV's and radio's doesn't seem right when it is supposed to be a punishment.
But I do think prison should be tougher for people who commit terrible crimes. Giving them TV's and radio's doesn't seem right when it is supposed to be a punishment.
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The death penalty should never be used anywhere. First of all, there is no way to unequivocally prove that someone committed a crime. Eye-witness accounts can sometimes be inaccurate (as proven by psychologists), and even DNA evidence can be manipulated. Also, I don't believe that anyone deserves to die regardless of what he/she has done. The death penalty does not deter crime, either. In the developed world, states that don't have the death penalty have lower prison populations and fewer homicides than the USA, where people are executed for jaywalking in some states.
Family Chat
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Really there are places you can executed for Jaywalking???
Hobbies230 said:
I study this and found out it costs the tax payer more to keep some one death row than keep then in jail for life as it works out 5 times more cash to have some one on death row than life in jail as the man getting the death penalty has a cell to him self more staff caring for him plus they can keep appealing write up to the last minute which the tax payer has to pay for
Also a Judge from the USA had said the Death Penalty was a experiment gone wrong as
he explained you take 2 men who have comment the same crime only different one is black and one is white there is more chance the black man will get the death penalty while the white man gets life which he thinks is wrong
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No, that was a joke.Family Chat said:
SheepishWolf
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If someone killed the queen, shot Obama, raped Feral, and commited pedophile-like acts, I would honestly think they deserve to die *At first thought*.
But then, assuming everyone is of equality why would you kill someone for doing something to someone "more important" and not for killing *insert name of average person here*.
But, I think that putting them in jail-like enclosure would be more fair, just in case they are wrongly accused.
And, it is my belief that everyone should have a second chance, and if you kill them will they have a chance to repent or ask forgiveness? *The following sentence does not reflect my opinion, but is a statement that could be used* In the Christian bible, it says that God will forgive you for anything as long as you say your sorry and *repent.
So, I'm kind of on the borderline with this, but it's kind of morally unacceptable to kill regardless, and if you kill someone for doing something as a punishment, then you're basically worse than the person you're killing. Why? Because you're doing it for what's basically revenge.
But then, assuming everyone is of equality why would you kill someone for doing something to someone "more important" and not for killing *insert name of average person here*.
But, I think that putting them in jail-like enclosure would be more fair, just in case they are wrongly accused.
And, it is my belief that everyone should have a second chance, and if you kill them will they have a chance to repent or ask forgiveness? *The following sentence does not reflect my opinion, but is a statement that could be used* In the Christian bible, it says that God will forgive you for anything as long as you say your sorry and *repent.
So, I'm kind of on the borderline with this, but it's kind of morally unacceptable to kill regardless, and if you kill someone for doing something as a punishment, then you're basically worse than the person you're killing. Why? Because you're doing it for what's basically revenge.
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