Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tick

[Lorcan]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

@el canadiano: TAZ is not a promotion forum.

That's in your definition of promotion. I believe TAZ is a promotion forum.

Taz is not a promotion forum, it has one topic where you can post something about your forum, and if is is even remotely related to TAz it will get removed such as promotion forums. It is a webmaster discussion board, not a promotion forum.

 

[David]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

@el canadiano: TAZ is not a promotion forum.

That's in your definition of promotion. I believe TAZ is a promotion forum.

Taz is not a promotion forum, it has one topic where you can post something about your forum, and if is is even remotely related to TAz it will get removed such as promotion forums. It is a webmaster discussion board, not a promotion forum.

Likewise, it depends on your definition of promotion. Promotion could be like FP here, or methods in getting your site seen through search engines etc., which is what TAZ does.

 

[Cosmic]

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@dotDavid: They call themselves a resource forum. Also they don't have any services similar to the ones here. I can assure you, they do not define themselves as a promotion forum. That is because they don't PROMOTE your site. They only allow 4 text links in your signature and only 2 smilies as "images".

@Nathan: Many jobs train people before letting them do work. Also, regardless, you can't get a good job if you don't already have some experience in that general field.

 

[Justin]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

That's just may say in it.

Also, thanks for the neg rep 😉

 

[Cosmic]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

That's just may say in it.

Also, thanks for the neg rep 😉

Hmm? I do not recall -repping you. If so, IM me the comment I made, because I honestly forgot.

 

[Justin]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

No it wasnt you 🙂

 

[el canadiano]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

@el canadiano: TAZ is not a promotion forum.

That's in your definition of promotion. I believe TAZ is a promotion forum.

Actually, he's right. TAZ is more about the actual discussion of running a website, let alone a forum. Nonetheless, they also have some useful exchange ideas that FP doesn't, such as the Launch Team. A lot of the big name Forum Software guys are also actively on there as well, so that's also another place where you can get alternative support, regardless of software.

 

[Kino]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

Quite irritating when users come onto Forum Promotion to rant about our services. Well you know what? You seem to be the only one mate. Forum Promotion is stronger than ever, and I honestly can't stand to see you bashing everything we do. But again it's not up to me, if you rather pay for promotion and for ads. Then by all means, be my guest.

Also, I don't appreciate the bashing of our reviewers here at Forum Promotion. I was a reviewer on here at one point and you know what, my forum didn't even have 1,000 posts. As a reviewer, you learn about forums the more reviews you do. You get to see how a numerous number of forums function, how they're set up, which ones are nice/not nice. So just because the reviewer hasn't ran a successful forum, doesn't make him a terrible reviewer. Do you think all movie reviewers/critics are famous directors that have directed hundreds of movies? Not at all. They are regular people who love movies and have seen thousands of them.

 

[Cosmic]

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Quite irritating when users come onto Forum Promotion to rant about our services. Well you know what? You seem to be the only one mate. Forum Promotion is stronger than ever, and I honestly can't stand to see you bashing everything we do. But again it's not up to me, if you rather pay for promotion and for ads. Then by all means, be my guest.

Also, I don't appreciate the bashing of our reviewers here at Forum Promotion. I was a reviewer on here at one point and you know what, my forum didn't even have 1,000 posts. As a reviewer, you learn about forums the more reviews you do. You get to see how a numerous number of forums function, how they're set up, which ones are nice/not nice. So just because the reviewer hasn't ran a successful forum, doesn't make him a terrible reviewer. Do you think all movie reviewers/critics are famous directors that have directed hundreds of movies? Not at all. They are regular people who love movies and have seen thousands of them.

Read the disclaimer please.

 

[Callum93]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

Quite irritating when users come onto Forum Promotion to rant about our services. Well you know what? You seem to be the only one mate. Forum Promotion is stronger than ever, and I honestly can't stand to see you bashing everything we do. But again it's not up to me, if you rather pay for promotion and for ads. Then by all means, be my guest.

Also, I don't appreciate the bashing of our reviewers here at Forum Promotion. I was a reviewer on here at one point and you know what, my forum didn't even have 1,000 posts. As a reviewer, you learn about forums the more reviews you do. You get to see how a numerous number of forums function, how they're set up, which ones are nice/not nice. So just because the reviewer hasn't ran a successful forum, doesn't make him a terrible reviewer. Do you think all movie reviewers/critics are famous directors that have directed hundreds of movies? Not at all. They are regular people who love movies and have seen thousands of them.

Read the disclaimer please.

It's obvious that you're having a dig at FP, whatever the disclaimer says. The disclaimer is just a cover up for that.

 

[Cosmic]

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It's obvious that you're having a dig at FP, whatever the disclaimer says. The disclaimer is just a cover up for that.

If I was, would I have posted it on these forums? If I was I could have gotten more sympathy from another community. I am speaking only of concepts, and old ones at that. Everyone sees this as an attack on FP, but in reality, it is a challenge. A challenge to be original and expand on these old traditional services.

 

[golfbunny]

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You are free to disagree with your fellow members. You are not free to attack, degrade, insult, or malign them.

Please keep things civil and respectful.

Kind regards,
Zane

 

[Callum93]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

If I was, would I have posted it on these forums? If I was I could have gotten more sympathy from another community. I am speaking only of concepts, and old ones at that. Everyone sees this as an attack on FP, but in reality, it is a challenge. A challenge to be original and expand on these old traditional services.

Yes, you would, as you have had arguments with FP and the management recently. Also you called them ''Demotion Forums'' in the title.

Meh just admit it's a dig, honestly?

@Zane: If you're implying I or others have been insulting Cosmic, then I disagree (lol)

I think it's a disagreement over the issue rather then an attack/insult.

 

[golfbunny]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

I'm not implying anything about anyone.

 

[xarver]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

Who are you to criticize other communities with low post counts if your forum Runeknow only has 4,000 itself? I've seen many of your rants but this one is just ridiculous. I say someone has the freedom to create whatever forum he or she likes. If you think a forum is a "clone" of FP and that the services won't help, then don't join it! It's better to give some actual feedback than to bash others with lame topics such as this one. Creating one topic and arguing against other members won't change a damn thing.

And besides, you may not realize it but starting crappy forums has a good side. All sane webmasters have made at least one mistake when administrating a forum... It may have been deleting a forum on accident or using the most ugly theme on planet Earth. But who cares? To achieve something great you always have an obstacle blocking your path.

By the way, your disclaimer doesn't cover up anything. You say you are only arguing against promotion forums in general... Well FP is a promotion forum.

 

[Cosmic]

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Who are you to judge other forums with low post counts if your forum Runeknow only has 4,000 itself?

I do not pretend to be a professional reviewer of forums.

I've seen many of your rants but this one is just ridiculous. I say someone has the freedom to create whatever forum he or she likes

By that same logic I have the right to create any thread I like within the rules of this forum. You are speaking very similarly of this thread as I am of these promotion forums. I also don't give a <self censored> what forums people make, I am creating an analysis of the most common services they use.

If you think a forum is a "clone" of FP and that the services won't help, then don't join it!

I don't intend do, but why does that strip my rights to analyse them?

It's better to give some actual feedback than to bash others with lame topics such as this one.

That's what I'm doing. The literal interperatation of "Feedback" would be a response. A "feed" "back". Example: "The feedback from the hurricane was horrible". "Constructive feedback" is a feed back which helps to construct or improve. I have done this by elaborating why existing things do not work and suffixing my explanation with a call to improve this standard by creating new services.

Creating one topic and arguing against other members won't change a damn thing.

Not arguing against what you believe wrong won';t change a damn thing. Your post, by your logic, won't change a damn thing as well.

And besides, you may not realize it but starting crappy forums has a good side. All sane webmasters have made at least one mistake when administrating a forum..

Not all webmasters have produced free forums on subdomains, though. Many professional webmasters were already adults when Al Gore invented the internet.

But who cares?

The people which keep society on the march of progress. If there was no criticism, there'd be no improvement.

o achieve something great you always have an obstacle blocking your path.

Of course. But why is it wrong to tell people that they are trying to climb a wall with a rubber chicken?

By the way, your disclaimer doesn't cover up anything. You say you are only blaming promotion forums in general... Well FP is a promotion forum.

I ask that some promotion forums improve from their poor standards. Thus, some forums which do not already have low standards are not affected by my request. The disclaimer is asking people to look at the bigger picture and not this forum alone. I posted this in the managing your forum section, not community matters. Therefore, this thread is not meant to be associated with forumpromotion.net.

 

[xarver]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

I do not pretend to be a professional reviewer of forums.

Sure seems like it.

By that same logic I have the right to create any thread I like within the rules of this forum. You are speaking very similarly of this thread as I am of these promotion forums. I also don't give a <self censored> what forums people make, I am creating an analysis of the most common services they use. I don't intend do, but why does that strip my rights to analyse them?

That's what I'm doing. The literal interperatation of "Feedback" would be a response. A "feed" "back". Example: "The feedback from the hurricane was horrible". "Constructive feedback" is a feed back which helps to construct or improve. I have done this by elaborating why existing things do not work and suffixing my explanation with a call to improve this standard by creating new services.

Your average new forum owner doesn't search the forums for tips. And saying the "literal definition" of feedback doesn't make you seem any more intelligent.

Not arguing against what you believe wrong won't change a damn thing. Your post, by your logic, won't change a damn thing as well.

Indeed but I'm not the one bashing other forums. I'm just trying to argue what I believe in like others in this thread.

Not all webmasters have produced free forums on subdomains, though. Many professional webmasters were already adults when Al Gore invented the internet.

And your point is...???

Of course. But why is it wrong to tell people that they are trying to climb a wall with a rubber chicken?

I approve of criticism but not when it makes no sense. Other people and I have gotten success from these methods yet you claim they don't work.

I ask that some promotion forums improve from their poor standards. Thus, some forums which do not already have low standards are not affected by my request. The disclaimer is asking people to look at the bigger picture and not this forum alone. I posted this in the managing your forum section, not community matters. Therefore, this thread is not meant to be associated with forumpromotion.net.

So basically your saying "Promotion forums like FP, except FP because I don't want to be disrespected"?

 

[Cosmic]

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Do you see the people with forums that have 1,000,000+ posts using promotion forums? I can't count 5 people who have forums of 500,000 posts or more that use this forum, which is the largest of promotion forums. the really, really successful people rely on other methods to get their success.

 

[xarver]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

Do you see the people with forums that have 1,000,000+ posts using promotion forums? I can't count 5 people who have forums of 500,000 posts or more that use this forum, which is the largest of promotion forums. the really, really successful people rely on other methods to get their success.

Again you are acting like the big man.
And actually, what I think the smartest choice would be is promoting your forum non stop! FFF is still promoted here because Cloverfield wants it to grow most likely.
And just because not a lot of giant forums use boards like FP to promote their website does it mean that promotion sites don't work. People like me don't want to spend thousands of dollars on services like Google Adwords when I can get reasonable advertising with hard work for free.
And maybe they don't use communities like these because they aren't communities. They may be just forums. It's sort of how Youtube is not that much of a community any more but just a place to see videos.

 

[Cosmic]

Re: Demotion Forums - Why the Classic Services No Longer Tic

And remember, the goal is this thread is not to scare people like you off, it is to improve existing services with new and better ones. I don't see why you're against promotion forums thinking up new solutions to these problems.