Does God Exist-Yes/No Discussion

I definately do believe that God does exist, science can't explain everything I guess.
 
It's just who you are honestly, you can believe in a God or you don't.

To me, I believe that God and Jesus both exist. Before I became a devout Christian, I had really bad depression. I just felt like life was not worth it to anyone, including myself. I started to read the Bible and started going to church, and I felt the depression just slide away mostly. I still do suffer some depression episodes but 90% of the time I feel great.

I don't think religion is just "do you believe in God and accept him?", I think it also can define your personality based on what that religion says. Even if someone's gay, disabled, a sinner, a different race or gender, I still treat them as nicely as I can, like Jesus did. I have found my surroundings are like that too, which is why I stay and believe in God in my own personal thoughts.
 
Graffiti said:
eve that over billions of years, a rock (or ice, or some other form of non-organic matter) somehow turned into a living thing. Just look at the atomic makeup of a rock. How can non-organic matter become a living, thinking, breathing creature? It's a mystery that has nothing to back it up, at least as far as science goes. So by default, the only thing that explains it (for me, I am not speaking for anyone else here) is God.
Gonna pop in just to refute this common argument.

If the answer to a question is, "I don't know," you don't get to insert your own answer and assert it is correct without evidence. The answer should remain, "I don't know," until someone can produce evidence in the scope of empiricism that leads us in some direction.

There is little to no evidence for the existence of a higher power, and it is as likely as any other answer you can come up with. Given this, a religion that sends people to an eternity of torture based on a belief they decided on based on random experiences is terrible and scary. To go on and refer to the deity that this religion centers around as "merciful" is sociopathic. If you choose to put your faith in something intuitive, it seems more intuitive that a deity would first value skepticism of such things before it valued a decision you made based mostly on what your parents believed and where you were born.
 
Carson said:
Graffiti said:
eve that over billions of years, a rock (or ice, or some other form of non-organic matter) somehow turned into a living thing. Just look at the atomic makeup of a rock. How can non-organic matter become a living, thinking, breathing creature? It's a mystery that has nothing to back it up, at least as far as science goes. So by default, the only thing that explains it (for me, I am not speaking for anyone else here) is God.
Gonna pop in just to refute this common argument.

If the answer to a question is, "I don't know," you don't get to insert your own answer and assert it is correct without evidence. The answer should remain, "I don't know," until someone can produce evidence in the scope of empiricism that leads us in some direction.

There is little to no evidence for the existence of a higher power, and it is as likely as any other answer you can come up with. Given this, a religion that sends people to an eternity of torture based on a belief they decided on based on random experiences is terrible and scary. To go on and refer to the deity that this religion centers around as "merciful" is sociopathic. If you choose to put your faith in something intuitive, it seems more intuitive that a deity would first value skepticism of such things before it valued a decision you made based mostly on what your parents believed and where you were born.

just because you might claim there's evidence that God is not real and the Big Bang did happen, doesn't mean that "evidence" is evidence of such... and even if there is some "evidence" to point it to that type of theory, doesn't mean it holds more credibility than other theories of the same subject...

there's more evidence of a higher power than evidence that there's not...

just look at all the crazy and mysterious things humans can do and know today that humans didn't know or couldn't do only a few decades back... but then look and see into space, and all the paradoxes and mysteries the human race knows of, but can't explain... even the simplest things like energy and magnetism are things that humans think they know all about but really have no idea what and how it works... the human race likes to guess to try to figure out everything, because the humans always want to have an answer about everything, even if humans have to lie to themselves or guess and make theories about everything...
 
Of course. I choose to call my higher power God because it's a simple 3 letter word and easy to remember. To be honest, you'll find God sooner or later. No matter what.
 
I don't know if god exist or not, but if even a belief or fear of god makes a person to do the right thing then I'm fine with believing anything.
 
Sometimes I might not think that there is a God mostly because of everything I have been through in the past year. Both my parents having a heart attack in front of me, dying and being brought back to life and then my dog dying two days ago but something in the back of my mind tells me to keep believing. He is giving me the strength to get through all of this and it is also preparing for my future since I want to be a nurse. I know I will witness heart attacks, strokes, and even death at some point during my career. I believe this is all just a test to prove to him that no matter what he puts me through I will still believe in him and I do.

We all have different opinions and I respect everyone who believes and doesn't believe, we all have our reasons for why we believe or don't but I know I will never stop believing in him. What harm will it do? I'd rather believe that there is a god then die and there not be one than live my whole life not believing and then die and have to stand in front of God and explain to him why I never believed he was real.
 
Seeing as it was over a year ago, I'll go ahead and repost my reply..

I have never believed in "God" due to personal things that have happened in my life. My entire family is Christian, and my mother has tried so hard to convert me and failed. My absolute refusal has resulted in her crying several times because when she goes to "heaven", she wants to know that someday she'll see all her kids again.

I am a physical proof kind of guy. I cannot read a "bible" and instantly believe everything it says. My mother has mentioned previously that someday "God" will come to Earth to take his believers with him. On that day and that day only will I believe that he exists. Until then, there is no physical proof in the slightest. I'll never understand how people can read a book and instantly believe everything it says. If that was the case, maybe I should write a book rewriting the past so that I'm a King.

I see religion as like Santa Claus. You're told about him, and you're hyped up for him to arrive, but when you get older, you realize it was just something that was made up to make you believe in something.
 
I don't know if a God or any kind of god from whatever religion you believe in exists. I'm not saying God or any other religious deity does or doesn't exist.

I just don't know. Some people don't need proof at all and some more than others.

It certainly would take away a lot of my doubts if we all knew for sure if God or another god out there was responsible for creation. I don't think anyone knows for sure. I guess we'll find out though.
 
There was a very interesting discussion about this in a skype chat last night. 😛

I don't have any evidence for or against there being a god. No one has managed to prove it either way yet, even though science may some day find an explanation (whether it proves a god or not). As far as I'm concerned, Evolution and the Big Bang have been proven enough to be considered scientific fact unless new evidence disproves them, but that does not mean that a god couldn't have set those forces in motion. The bible also matches those two explanations fairly well in early Genesis, if you accept a non-literal interpretation.

The morality that I accept is philosophy that human philosophers have come up with, Jesus included among them. Do unto others what you would have done unto yourself. Every person has the right to life, liberty, and property. Every person should be allowed to live their life in peace, unless they actively cause harm to others. That is what is right, and what my moral code is. There may or may not be a god, but that doesn't matter so much to me from a moral standpoint. I will do what is right, with or without a god, because morals supercede any diety or creator.

If I am rewarded with an afterlife for being a good person, then I will gladly accept that. If death is the end, then it's not just the end for me, but for everyone. So is life, I guess. At least I will do my best to live a life worth remembering, whether or not there is a god or not. And I encourage everyone else to do this. Believe what you want to believe. I don't know the answers either, so I can't tell you what to believe. But also, do not try to impose your beliefs on others, or to use fear to do so (such as the fear of hell).
 
I'll put my answer as a simple, "I don't know."

There have been a few incidents in my life that now lead me to question if God really does exist. If he did I would love to start asking him a few heated questions. 😛

I think the biggest debate is the whole "Big Bang" and evolution theory, as far as I am aware the Bible itself does not explain how the Earth was made or what came before that. All it really says is he made the stars and what not, if it was to explain how than I would be more than happy to sit down and listen to you read it, however until then I honestly think people need to stop basing their arguments on how the Earth was made. The Big Bang technically was the start to all things space and planets, God would have very well made that happen and then create the Earth.

I'm not 100% sold on evolution and I honesty cannot tell you why, I simply think it's a bunch of hooey.

I think there is a God and then on the other hand I don't think there is. I'm more one to believe as I see not believe because people tell me I should, you know? I believe everything happens for a reason and I suppose you can tie that into some kind of belief of "fate" or something. 😛
 
Thomasss said:
I'm not 100% sold on evolution and I honesty cannot tell you why, I simply think it's a bunch of hooey.

I think there is a God and then on the other hand I don't think there is. I'm more one to believe as I see not believe because people tell me I should, you know? I believe everything happens for a reason and I suppose you can tie that into some kind of belief of "fate" or something. 😛
I don't personally believe in fate. I do think that there's justice in the world that is imposed by humans on other humans. For example, when a criminal kills someone and is arrested, that is not fate acting. That's other humans acting to find justice for the crime that person committed.

Scientists only believe in evolution and the big bang because they explain phenomena that have been observed. For example, the way in which the universe is expanding is explained by the universe originating from a single event, and spreading out.

Scientists believe in evolution because it explains what we have observed archeologically. Skeletons of early humans, that date back to before present-day humans, and share similarities with both modern mankind and other species that still exist today, for example. It is still possible that scientific observation may prove certain aspects to be incorrect (just as Einstein's relativity has expanded and generalized Newton's laws) but what has been observed has been observed. The earth certainly wasn't created 10,000 years ago, as that is an explanation that does not fit the observed phenomena. Some claim that carbon-dating is wrong, and similar, but it's also true that earth-centrism was taught in many esteemed universities for decades after it was accepted that the sun is located in the center of the solar system, and that neither the sun nor the earth is at the center of the universe.
 
I think God exists. I don't need any proof to believe in his existence.
 
I'll put it this way. A creation always requires a creator and something can not logically exist without something existing before the so-called creation.

So is there a God? The obvious common sense answer is yes. Consider the way how the universe is and how everything is designed the way it is. Nothing so imperfectly perfect could not in any remote chance exist without something or someone shaping it the way the world works and how everything exists today.

I personally see it this way to deny the existence of a creator in a world that we live in denies our very existence in itself. Nothing is formed from nothing it has to be created by a creator which had the understanding on how things should be created how everything works in this world and in the universe.

So yes God does exist by both a logical and common sense standpoint. The main question is what type of God most people will ask is he evil or good? Well if he was evil what would you expect from an evil God? That alone should already give you a clear answer who created us and what kind of God looks after us.

The simple reason why we exist and allowed the freedom of choice that we have clearly shows what type of God created us and who he is and that is good.
 
Assuming that there has to be "something" that created everything, how can you be sure that the Abrahamic god is the creator? There are other religions, and many of them are older than Judaism/Christianity/Islam.
 
MeowsePad said:
Assuming that there has to be "something" that created everything, how can you be sure that the Abrahamic god is the creator? There are other religions, and many of them are older than Judaism/Christianity/Islam.

Well if you go from a Biblical standpoint. The Old Testament derives from Judaism and the Bible in a clear way stretches all the way to the point of the supposed start of humanity. So actually, it would be incorrect to say there are older religions, to be honest. It may have been called something differently back then and I am sure God was probably more referred to more as 'The Creator' that far back, but still generally the same.

If you read about the Great Flood in the Bible in the Old Testament it was actually proven to happen by scientists. They go into great detail on how something like it would have happened during the time when all the continents were together in one giant mass of land than separate continents.
 
Buddhists, Hindus, etc. also have holy books that go back to the beginning of time. What makes you believe the Bible and disbelieve their accounts of how the world was created?
 
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