SwErVz said:
People trying to bring your forum down by saying stuff well tell us here.
Let me tell you, if 1 more person says that your not dedicated to your forum if you don't invest then I'm going to go extremely mad, i'm sick and tired of it. I spent 1 and a half years extremely dedicated to my forum and how much did I invest? Wait for it... nothing. Just coz you have money doesnt mean anyone else does so next time you try to bring someone down for this reason then think to yourself just because I can invest doesnt mean they can.
I'm sick of people bringing me down, I very nearly left this forum because of it. I've certainly been close to a ban from having a go at the people that do it 😛
I agree, and while I haven't had to deal with this for a very long time, since I was on Proboards, I have seen others who have done the same. I have advertised my PB forum on IF ad sites and it was as if people saw that I was on PB and then decided to treat me as though I had the Bubonic plague.
Later on I would post the same ad on that forum with a link to the new IF forum, and the response was like night and day. In 2 months of being open on IF, i doubled the activity and member stats of my old PB forum. I'm no fan of PB either, but I wouldn't just snub someone for using it. If a person can work around the shortcomings with the software and make their place into one that I would join, then I am open to that possibility.
I remember being on an IF or ZB board, I forget which, but it was one of those boards that had the same few people that join the same boards created by each other, that end up being marginally different from the other forums created by the other people in that group and this kid decided that he was going to start a gfx forum, and asked for some advice.
After a few well-wishing posts from other members, this other guy felt it was necessary to tell this kid that he might as well just close his forum because it will fail anyway and that there were other gfx forums that were perfectly fine and already successful and that he should just close it or make another forum about something he's actually good at.
I felt bad for the kid because all he really wanted was some advice, and not discouragement. I mean so what if there are other gfx forums that were created before and are successful, I am pretty sure that that was indeed the case with the other 'perfectly fine's gfx forums that the other person mentioned.
I also had no idea that only 1 forum of each type can ever be created. (I'm being totally sarcastic here.)
I also want to mention that I too have been considered "low brow" for using a free host by the "high brow paid community" and do you know what has happened? They're gone, and I'm still here. For all of their "Eww.. free forums and hosting sucks bro, paid ftw dude" schtick whilst high-fiving their other "paid" comrades, about 95% of them are nonexistent today. Some were on the receiving end of a cracking, some had issues with the server they were hosted on, some lost their hosting and couldn't access their data and lastly, the host just ceased to exist.
The other 5%, are either a completely different site entirely with the same name to get the same hits, or they dead, dying or begging people to donate so they can keep going and the irony is, that they have put so many ads on their forums to pay for their hosting, that it is actually more ads than what they would have had on their forum if they were on a free host.
Yet, these were the same people who announced to every forum that they were going paid as if they had won the lottery, puffed out their chests and acted as though their sh-t didn't stink because of it. I've also seen forums with the same attitude regarding paid domains and in those cases, 6 months to a year later, the domain is either parked, or is pointing to a different site with the same name for hits.
Some free hosts suck, but not all of them do and what matters is how well and admin can work around them and make things work. I have been on free hosts since I've been running my forum, and many people have joined and been active and were actually surprised that I was on a free host and they've commended me for my ability to run my forum as I do and with very little restrictions because of it. The irony is that while yes, when I was on IF, I ended up tripling the activity and members of my PB forum, but when I left IF, I multiplied the activity on my IF forum 10x.
On my IF and PB forums, I advertised like crazy, and on my current host, I hardly advertise at all. I have one advert here that I hardly bump, by now its probably been trashed, and I do a few exchanges and request packages here to get some new meat on the forum, but that is about it. I am still on a free host to this day, and although I am seriously considering going with a paid IPB, it has nothing to do with thinking that paid hosting is better, it is about removing the limits in place by Google's TOS, which is what the host owner has to adhere to as well, though I hear that he is considering offering a paid alternative someday.
I have never thought that things are better on the paid side of the fence and I never will. My forum is a source of stress relief and anytime money enters the equation, the stress factor also increases, so too will the issues involved with paid hosting, and when that happens, the enjoyment decreases. I'm not broke, and neither am I cheap, and truth be told, I have more than enough money to buy a license for any software I choose and then pay for hosting for it.
It's just that, I dont think it is worth it to spend my money on something intangible. I have a life outside of my forum and I like living it and dont want to have to limit that just because I went paid. At the end of the day, it is just another bill, and I'd rather put my money toward something that I want to buy, or use it for travel. Dont get me wrong, I love my forum, but it really isnt that serious.
In my personal opinion, and experience, anyone that says being paid is better than free is most likely the same idiot who fell for it when the previous idiot before them sold them the same b.s. and there is a very good chance that their paid experience will be a short one, since they also apparently forget to renew their hosting when it expires. They must think that money grows on trees or something.