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What do you think? How did the Human species come to be?
I personally believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution.
I personally believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution.
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I believe that evolution and the Bible's version of creation can coexist.
Simply because you may be a "Christian" doesn't mean you'll have a good life, and some religious people would argue that it doesn't mean you'll end up in heaven either. If you think logically (something 'god' may have given us the ability to) it makes sense that only those who are truly good people will be approved to attend heaven. It wouldn't matter if you were Christian or not, a true 'god' who created humans with the ability to make choices isn't going to say "well, you have have been the epitome of a saint your entire life, but you're Jewish, so i'm gonna send you to hell." This is the reason why I see all organized religion as corrupt, they simply fight among themselves which is the exact opposite of what a 'god' would want.Stats+ said:
I do not believe there is a god. I do not believe we came from monkeys. My theory is that we are part of an experiment, one in which a "human" race dropped a few of their own on a distant planet to observe how they would develop over time. There are several reasons they would do such a thing, even to help prove their own theories on how they came to be.
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Not even the Catholic Church goes directly on what the Bible says. :shock:Stats+ said:
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And so does the Catholic Church, not all Priests follow what the Catholic Church says.Sbfc said:
Not all humans follow what the law says either, so this example isn't something unique to the Church and isn't a factor in my choices. There will always be those who chose to break rules and do things differently.Kirisute Gomen said:
Can you guess what I believe :shrug:
Anyway, Evolution is a scientific FACT. Even though it is called a theory this is a scientific theory which simply means that it is a collection of concepts and ideas.
For over 150 years, scientists have been trying to disprove evolution (this is how science works) and have failed to do so and now with the understanding of the genome we can plainly see how all life on Earth is related.
Personally I have now moved past the point of arguing with creationists as anyone who doesn't accept evolution either haven't studied it, doesn't understand it or simply doesn't want to believe it, which is a shame because it is an awesome natural process that explains everything beautifully :great:
Anyway, Evolution is a scientific FACT. Even though it is called a theory this is a scientific theory which simply means that it is a collection of concepts and ideas.
For over 150 years, scientists have been trying to disprove evolution (this is how science works) and have failed to do so and now with the understanding of the genome we can plainly see how all life on Earth is related.
Personally I have now moved past the point of arguing with creationists as anyone who doesn't accept evolution either haven't studied it, doesn't understand it or simply doesn't want to believe it, which is a shame because it is an awesome natural process that explains everything beautifully :great:
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Did you not read the posts above you? Most "creationists" don't believe God (or in your case, lack thereof) got bored and made some planets and some people. The current Catholic Church's explanation doesn't contradict Darwin's theory, as far as I know.Darwinian said:
And despite what you said, it isn't a fact. Darwin wasn't around when the earth was created. Just like how the dinosaurs became extinct, a group of scientists "confirmed" that an asteroid killed them. It isn't a fact just because a bunch of people got together and said it happened. They weren't around to see it. They interpreted the evidence and came up with a conclusion.
Actually, "evolution" is indeed proven to be true. It goes hand in hand with adaptation, which is something we have seen even since we began studying ourselves (technology growth and such). We have seen in genetics that animals have "evolved" over time to suit their current environment needs. This is proven, NOT a theory. The theory of evolution is that humans developed from an ape species.
On a different note, this made me smile;
On a different note, this made me smile;
Darwinian said:
That's just insulting, and not listening to other's beliefs. Why should we believe you then, if you are brave enough to make a comment like that? Yes it may be proven true, but there isn't any need to disregard what other's believe in.
It's not insulting. Arguing with a creationist about evolution makes as much sense as arguing with a flat Earther about the shape of the planet.
What you seem to be saying is that I should respect other peoples beliefs, well I disagree. To a large degree it depends upon the belief.
Am I also supposed to respect the belief that gay men are morally evil individuals as the current pope says or that women are the property of their husbands as many Christians firmly believe?
If people don't want to have their beliefs disregarded then they shouldn't have such silly beliefs.
What you seem to be saying is that I should respect other peoples beliefs, well I disagree. To a large degree it depends upon the belief.
Am I also supposed to respect the belief that gay men are morally evil individuals as the current pope says or that women are the property of their husbands as many Christians firmly believe?
If people don't want to have their beliefs disregarded then they shouldn't have such silly beliefs.
There is a difference between being devout and just thinking "Oh, if god does not exist I lose nothing and if he does exist I get eternal life. How can I lose?". Is that what you mean by "playing safe" or did I misinterpret that?Stats+ said:
And the evolution is reasonable, up until the point where you try to explain away how the frist single celled organism came about. This jump in complexity from a rock to a cell is BEYOND imagining.
Darwinian, its not a matter of placing the most absurd combinations together and using that as your argument. You are dealing with two things that can coincide with each other.
I can believe that God created the heavens and the Earth whilst some time along the track, evolution happened. Some things are more believable than others, but humans will never be sure.
Yes, you should respect the beliefs of others, whether you like it or not. Moral justification is more important than proofs/theories of creationism or evolution. If you can't find the humane sense of respecting others' beliefs then you shouldn't participate in these discussions where you have insulted others.
I can believe that God created the heavens and the Earth whilst some time along the track, evolution happened. Some things are more believable than others, but humans will never be sure.
Yes, you should respect the beliefs of others, whether you like it or not. Moral justification is more important than proofs/theories of creationism or evolution. If you can't find the humane sense of respecting others' beliefs then you shouldn't participate in these discussions where you have insulted others.
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