netsavy006
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I agree with Yukon. If the cost is worth it, upgrade to vB.
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phpBB is very simple, organized, and it's easy to find everything. It's got a nice layout (I'm not talking about the template), and I'm sure most people here are very used to phpBB3.YukonMaster said:
Don't you mean downgrade to vB??netsavy006 said:
Anyway, why would it be an upgrade, it's not like vB is a more advanced version of phpBB3, it's a completely different software!
The phpBB is what attracted me to this site in the first place; it was the only [active] promotion forum I'd seen with phpBB, and that's why I liked it!
vB is quite simple also! I would enjoy having it, and as Fowler said - it has features that are actually worth getting it for. Plus, some people complained when we moved to phpBB3, although they like it now.
I`m sorry, but I agree with YukonMaster.
I had phpBB for my computer site.
I then moved to vBulletin, as I knew that vBulletin was the way to go if I want to further my site.
Have you even tried vBulletin? The possibilities are endless, the hacks are a hell of a lot easier to install.
I have an hack on my forum called, the 'Post Thank You' hack, which I think this forum would love have it here. It also uses AJAX technology, so you don`t have to refresh the page to reflect the changes.
As YukonMaster says, patches are released as quickly as possible, which is great. And don`t forget, 3.7.0 is in BETA, which I have, and it`s incredible. It puts phpBB to shame!
Regards Jason 🙂
I had phpBB for my computer site.
I then moved to vBulletin, as I knew that vBulletin was the way to go if I want to further my site.
Have you even tried vBulletin? The possibilities are endless, the hacks are a hell of a lot easier to install.
I have an hack on my forum called, the 'Post Thank You' hack, which I think this forum would love have it here. It also uses AJAX technology, so you don`t have to refresh the page to reflect the changes.
As YukonMaster says, patches are released as quickly as possible, which is great. And don`t forget, 3.7.0 is in BETA, which I have, and it`s incredible. It puts phpBB to shame!
Regards Jason 🙂
CyberFreak
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I can see this topic not really achieving anything...
It is not all about features... It is more about what users feel comfortable using. There is not point having a forum with loads of features yet alot of people won't sign up or use as they don't like it or are confused by it. I am one of these people who get sick of people always wanting every to use AJAX for everything and if they have there way then you would never reload a page. I don't mind the odd feature using it but not everything and by the sounds of it vb uses alot of it by default and in mods.
phpBB3 to vb is not a downgrade at all. The possibilities are endless with any software if you think about it.
As you can see i am undecided on what to do which is why i started this. It would be better if you look at it from your own point of view so members look at it as if you were a normal member so forget about security updates and ease of mod installation. Think about the look and feel. The staff can look at it from the moderation aspect where it is easier to mass moderate and easier and quick to do simple moderation and so on. Me and efc will look at if from the admin point of view (updates and mods) If we each look at it from that point of view we can then build a big overall picture of if it will benifit each group of people if you analyse only what you have access to as there is no point a normal user saying pick this because it has easy mod installation as they won't be able to install mods.
It is not all about features... It is more about what users feel comfortable using. There is not point having a forum with loads of features yet alot of people won't sign up or use as they don't like it or are confused by it. I am one of these people who get sick of people always wanting every to use AJAX for everything and if they have there way then you would never reload a page. I don't mind the odd feature using it but not everything and by the sounds of it vb uses alot of it by default and in mods.
phpBB3 to vb is not a downgrade at all. The possibilities are endless with any software if you think about it.
VB and IPB are very similar to each other and to phpBB3 if you look closely. The UCP is not far of the one here just with a few more options. phpbb being simple is the problem. By being simple it lacks alot of features that would make everyones life alot easier. For me and efc it will give us more control and we can offer more to our members and for all the staff here it will make their life easy as you always have to go through loads of confirmation screens to move or lock a topic and i know that for a fact i waste alot of time reply to topics with the same answer over and over again and it all takes time. From a users point of view it has more features that they can use if they want plus there is alot of benifits for them like post editors and lots more options.
As you can see i am undecided on what to do which is why i started this. It would be better if you look at it from your own point of view so members look at it as if you were a normal member so forget about security updates and ease of mod installation. Think about the look and feel. The staff can look at it from the moderation aspect where it is easier to mass moderate and easier and quick to do simple moderation and so on. Me and efc will look at if from the admin point of view (updates and mods) If we each look at it from that point of view we can then build a big overall picture of if it will benifit each group of people if you analyse only what you have access to as there is no point a normal user saying pick this because it has easy mod installation as they won't be able to install mods.
I concur Fowler.
But, vBulletin would make everyones life a hell of a lot easier, and IPB for that matter. phpBB is just too plain, and I just think these forums would look better with vBulletin or IPB. And vBulletin doesn`t use a lot of AJAX technology, just a few hacks. Many people love AJAX technology, it`s the future. It also saves you bandwidth.
Regards Jason 🙂
But, vBulletin would make everyones life a hell of a lot easier, and IPB for that matter. phpBB is just too plain, and I just think these forums would look better with vBulletin or IPB. And vBulletin doesn`t use a lot of AJAX technology, just a few hacks. Many people love AJAX technology, it`s the future. It also saves you bandwidth.
Regards Jason 🙂
Fowler said:
As i've mentioned, (i think), i'm well used to PHP. The first forum i ever posted on was powered by PHP, i've loved it ever since. I've tried other forum software such as vB, and i've found the whole board is either too small, so you can't read it, or too large - although this can be colved with a simple style change.
it seems that most vB style authors try and achieve the "Modern" look. Slim styles, loads of griants, gloss and tiny buttons. I love the fact that the php authors have kept everything simply laid out and kapt key areas simple.
Even though i'd rather you stayed wiht phpBB 3.0x, i wouldn't leave the forum if you were to leave.
At the end of the day fowler, it's your forum. You're paying for the hosting, so feel free to make the decision of your own accord. Just, don't be supprised if you find yourself a few members down.
~confuse~
YukonMaster
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It isn't a decision to get upset about, honestly, you will hardly notice the difference between the looks. Everything functions the same, and pages will load faster as vBulletin has less SQL query's per page.
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Nothing in this world is free. He may not pay for hosting but we do get compensation for our services. However our service agreement won't be disclosed.
CyberFreak
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For the members that won't sign up we will get new members who like vb better. It is not possible to please everyone and whatever we go with it will put some people off signing up. No doubt we would have got all this if i mentioned upgrading to phpBB3 from phpBB2. We had a few people who disliked the forum when we converted and we got a few bad replies on other forums saying it was a mistake and no one liked it but now look us.
As Yukonmaster said it is not really a decision to get upset about as it is not much different and the only difference is really the extra features. We won't be using the default skin and we will be making it look better then here with a better style and more styles also to choose from so it will please the people who want lighter skins. I have to say i have not really seen another phpBB3 template that i have liked so far.
As Yukonmaster said it is not really a decision to get upset about as it is not much different and the only difference is really the extra features. We won't be using the default skin and we will be making it look better then here with a better style and more styles also to choose from so it will please the people who want lighter skins. I have to say i have not really seen another phpBB3 template that i have liked so far.
have you checked http://www.phpbb3styles.net?
There are hundreds (literally) there ~wink~
Should the upgrade go ahead, could you find a skin which shows "clarly" on the index page, the number of that section's Topics and Posts. Also, clear "New Posts" icons etc...
There are hundreds (literally) there ~wink~
Should the upgrade go ahead, could you find a skin which shows "clarly" on the index page, the number of that section's Topics and Posts. Also, clear "New Posts" icons etc...
CyberFreak
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I have looked through alot of them and i have still not seen one that i like as much as this one. There are quite a few styles for vb that look like a phpBB3 equivilent and it is not even that not noticeable that it is a different software as it look kinda the same. That is what is pushing me towards vb as i was always put off by the look but after seeing how similar some of them are to the phpBB3 version i am very pursuaded towards it.
Perhaps you could link us up to some examples of the themes you have in mind?
Weirdchild
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Although we are now back with exco we found that most of our members and the staff liked working with VB. I have only ever been a poster on ipb or php and not been staff so can only comment from that viewpoint. They all take getting used to but overall I prefer php or vb.
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