Freedom from what exactly...?

[Venom]

No. You're now catagorizing an entire species as power hungry killers. I think what this really is, is a confession on how desperate for power you are.

No, because that's the harsh reality you're refusing to see. Humans=power-hungry.

OK then. If we are all humans, what about people in poverty, during because of a corrupt government?. By your logic the people helplessly suffering are as desperately raging for power and control as the government.

If we are all humans then that includes you and by your logic the same predjuce apply to you, you see using your invalid logic you just validated my argument, you are a human and you are as power hungry as apparently everyone else.

 

[Naiwen]

No. You're now catagorizing an entire species as power hungry killers. I think what this really is, is a confession on how desperate for power you are.

No, because that's the harsh reality you're refusing to see. Humans=power-hungry.

OK then. If we are all humans, what about people in poverty, during because of a corrupt government?. By your logic the people helplessly suffering are as desperately raging for power and control as the government.


If we are all humans then that includes you and by your logic the same predjuce apply to you, you see using your invalid logic you just validated my argument, you are a human and you are as power hungry as apparently everyone else.

And thats what i'm saying. Everyone is. And my answer is: we should be freed
from this.

 

[Venom]

No. You're now catagorizing an entire species as power hungry killers. I think what this really is, is a confession on how desperate for power you are.

No, because that's the harsh reality you're refusing to see. Humans=power-hungry.

OK then. If we are all humans, what about people in poverty, during because of a corrupt government?. By your logic the people helplessly suffering are as desperately raging for power and control as the government.


If we are all humans then that includes you and by your logic the same predjuce apply to you, you see using your invalid logic you just validated my argument, you are a human and you are as power hungry as apparently everyone else.

And thats what i'm saying. Everyone is. And my answer is: we should be freed
from this.

You still have this ideal, that every human wants power, Raging away inside your mind. I feel empathy for you in a way, how sad it must be to be in the state of mind you are.

 

[Naiwen]

No. You're now catagorizing an entire species as power hungry killers. I think what this really is, is a confession on how desperate for power you are.

No, because that's the harsh reality you're refusing to see. Humans=power-hungry.

OK then. If we are all humans, what about people in poverty, during because of a corrupt government?. By your logic the people helplessly suffering are as desperately raging for power and control as the government.


If we are all humans then that includes you and by your logic the same predjuce apply to you, you see using your invalid logic you just validated my argument, you are a human and you are as power hungry as apparently everyone else.

And thats what i'm saying. Everyone is. And my answer is: we should be freed
from this.

You still have this ideal, that every human wants power, Raging away inside your mind. I feel empathy for you in a way, how sad it must be to be in the state of mind you are.

Why wars over this then...? You live in a dream where all humans=good & free.

 

[Venom]

No. You're now catagorizing an entire species as power hungry killers. I think what this really is, is a confession on how desperate for power you are.

No, because that's the harsh reality you're refusing to see. Humans=power-hungry.

OK then. If we are all humans, what about people in poverty, during because of a corrupt government?. By your logic the people helplessly suffering are as desperately raging for power and control as the government.


If we are all humans then that includes you and by your logic the same predjuce apply to you, you see using your invalid logic you just validated my argument, you are a human and you are as power hungry as apparently everyone else.

And thats what i'm saying. Everyone is. And my answer is: we should be freed
from this.

You still have this ideal, that every human wants power, Raging away inside your mind. I feel empathy for you in a way, how sad it must be to be in the state of mind you are.

Why wars over this then...? You live in a dream where all humans=good & free.

Then you live in a nightmare where all humans=bad. You're catagorizing all humans as bad, I never said there wasn't bad people in the world, in fact a few minutes ago I mentioned corrupt governments, yet you're failing to acknowledge that.

 

[Naiwen]

And governments=composed of humans... what you're failing to see... so world=humanity.

 

[Taz]

I would define freedom as the ability to be able to make your own decisions, on your own free will. I'm not really sure why you have to free from something to be free. Freedom can simply mean the ability to exercise your free will, without having someone else control your future.

Unfortunately, we cannot do what we want or on our own free will.

 

[Venom]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

 

[Naiwen]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

Because you are. Humans=humans eh? No excuses for "corrupt governments or etc..."

 

[Venom]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

Because you are. Humans=humans eh? No excuses for "corrupt governments or etc..."

Again catagorizing a species.

 

[Naiwen]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

Because you are. Humans=humans eh? No excuses for "corrupt governments or etc..."

Again catagorizing a species.

And... we=all humans, yes? We all share common caracteristics: tendancies to violence, want/need for power..We need to be freed from that... reallly...

 

[Venom]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

Because you are. Humans=humans eh? No excuses for "corrupt governments or etc..."

Again catagorizing a species.

And... we=all humans, yes?

> avoiding the flaw in your argument that you're human too so you are desperate for power. You see this is the way you're thinking, your logic is flawed, you won't admit that you're so desperate for power that you see everyone else as a reflection of you, to justify your own delusions yet all you're doing is nullifying the point you're trying to make.

 

[Naiwen]

And governments=composed of humans... and you're failing to see it...So=power-hungry humans...

You're now trying to make it look as if I am contradicting myself so you can bypass the argument.

Because you are. Humans=humans eh? No excuses for "corrupt governments or etc..."

Again catagorizing a species.

And... we=all humans, yes?

> avoiding the flaw in your argument that you're human too so you are desperate for power. You see this is the way you're thinking, your logic is flawed, you won't admit that you're so desperate for power that you see everyone else as a reflection of you, to justify your own delusions yet all you're doing is nullifying the point you're trying to make.

Because you know i'm right about humanity's weaknesses.

 

[Taz]

Every body wants to succeed, that is not a flaw in human nature. It becomes dangerous when you put others in danger and you try to hard just for the sake of power.

 

[Naiwen]

Every body wants to succeed, that is not a flaw in human nature. It becomes dangerous when you put others in danger and you try to hard just for the sake of power.

Yep. And we need to be freed from that, right?

 

[Venom]

Yet you speak as I if you're a 'higher power', in denial and again avoiding the argument.

 

[Naiwen]

Yet you speak as I if you're a 'higher power', in denial and again avoiding the argument.

And you're obstinately refusing to see my point about being us all human...you and I are just disagreeing about our views on humanity. I'm pessimistic about it...

 

[Venom]

Yet you speak as I if you're a 'higher power', in denial and again avoiding the argument.

And you're obstinately refusing to see my point about being us all human...

And you're obstinately refusing to acknowledge the fact you are the one so desperate for control you created this thread. You have changed your argument immensely from weather a 'higher power' created 'us' , to feeling oppressed because you 'have' to eat to all humans desperate for power and control. That's how it works the delusions manifest until you believe them yourself.

Now if you said certain/some people where desperate for power then that would be totally a different story.

 

[Naiwen]

Yet you speak as I if you're a 'higher power', in denial and again avoiding the argument.

And you're obstinately refusing to see my point about being us all human...

And you're obstinately refusing to acknowledge the fact you are the one so desperate for control you created this thread. You have changed your argument immensely from weather a 'higher power' created 'us' , to feeling oppressed because you 'have' to eat to all humans desperate for power and control. That's how it works the delusions manifest until you believe them yourself.

Now if you said certain/some people where desperate for power then that would be totally a different story.

No... because everyone could be/might be... and that's my point and even you and I. I won't change my mind about this just because you think otherwise and because everyone is so inherently human.

 

[Venom]

Yet you speak as I if you're a 'higher power', in denial and again avoiding the argument.

And you're obstinately refusing to see my point about being us all human...

And you're obstinately refusing to acknowledge the fact you are the one so desperate for control you created this thread. You have changed your argument immensely from weather a 'higher power' created 'us' , to feeling oppressed because you 'have' to eat to all humans desperate for power and control. That's how it works the delusions manifest until you believe them yourself.

Now if you said certain/some people where desperate for power then that would be totally a different story.

No... because everyone is... and that's my point and even you. I won't change my mind about this just because you think otherwise and because everyone is so inherently human.

Provide proof that I'm desperate for power. Not just manifestations of thoughts. My argument is backed up by the posts you make.