Homosexuality: Right or Wrong?

[NBK*Twitch]

It's all okay as long as we respect each other's point of view and don't try to impose our personal views onto everyone else.

In the U.S.A? Ha yeah right .. everywhere I look everything from religion to personal opinion is pushed upon others. I wish people could respect others here,but the chances of it happening is slim to none. There is very few people in the world that don't give a crap about what you are or who you are.

As for gays being nicer, this is because of all the current pressure on them. Trust me gays and bis alike can be just as mean as anyone else. You just wont see it much if at all in public. Do you think gay rights would be any better if they were more mean in public?

(I had an ex that was such a **** we fought all the damn time)

 

[Lint]

Absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, and its freakin dumb that they still cant get married in every US state. The arguement that marriage is sacred is a load of crap. Yeah, marriage is sacred, that's why about half of em in the US end in divorce. 😛

And Screw what the bible says, its not the only religion in the world. I thought the US was a melting pot.

"In God we trust", "...One Nation under God...", Ha! Melting pot indeed

 

[Tressy]

In the U.S.A? Ha yeah right .. everywhere I look everything from religion to personal opinion is pushed upon others. I wish people could respect others here,but the chances of it happening is slim to none. There is very few people in the world that don't give a crap about what you are or who you are.

As for gays being nicer, this is because of all the current pressure on them. Trust me gays and bis alike can be just as mean as anyone else. You just wont see it much if at all in public. Do you think gay rights would be any better if they were more mean in public?

(I had an ex that was such a dick we fought all the damn time)

That's precisely why I said that actually. Not just in the USA. It's the same everywhere else. And I do know some of them can be mean. It's just that the ones I see and know happen to be really nice. Well, I think rights has nothing to do with whether a person is nice or mean. You don't deprive someone of their rights just because they are mean, so even IF they were to be mean in public, gay rights = gay rights. Just what I feel anyway. 🙂

 

[Deleted member 4320]

t's not like being Jewish, it's impossible to change

Wait wait what? I mean I know that there were some Jews in WW2 that hitler "converted" and made into aryans or whatever nonsense but I don't think you can change your race. You can become religiously Jewish yes, but you're usually also ethnically Jewish 😛.

Jew isn't a race since people can convert.

It's a religion, not a race.

 

[Gimgak]

t's not like being Jewish, it's impossible to change

Wait wait what? I mean I know that there were some Jews in WW2 that hitler "converted" and made into aryans or whatever nonsense but I don't think you can change your race. You can become religiously Jewish yes, but you're usually also ethnically Jewish 😛.

Jew isn't a race since people can convert.

It's a religion, not a race.

For the last time please take some time and think through what you're saying. Its the Jewish people, not just some random church. Otherwise that would mean there would be no such thing as a non-practicing Jew. You also seem to be saying that Jewish people living in Jerusalem are what exactly, Arabs? They're closer to Arabs than to Europeans but they're still a race. Next you're gonna say that Iranians are simply Arabs living in Iran 😛.

 

[WUEddy12]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

 

[The Reverend]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

I know this isnt relevent but you realise that you have two half naked sweaty men in your sig right?

 

[WUEddy12]

I do. Your point?

 

[Jonathan]

I agree.

And i dont recall seing that being gay is a sin not that i can see in the bible itself.

Note: I am not religious in any way so do not hate on me. I just figured I would answer your question because I hear it all the damn time.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

How anyone could base their lifestyle on a book wrote so many years ago and translated so many times is beyond me..

At the time, an abomination meant something that was unclean or went against tradition. It didn't mean the same as it does now. People who read the bible literally are very misguided as the book was written in the context of the time, and a lot of what is said there is just not true: for example, it is an abomination to mix certain types of materials in clothes. I'd like to see a Christian who lives their life by that.

The main reason why homosexuality is mentioned in the bible so much as being negative is because it goes against the ethos of pro-creation. Two men cannot make a child. At the time, the logical thing was to extend the kingdom and have as many people reproducing as possible. Remember God killed a man who had sex with a woman but then pulled out so his "seed" wasn't implanted in her. I don't know where in the bible, but really taking it literally is something you shouldn't do. You have to look at it in context.

A lot of Christian fundamentalists use these scriptures to make it morally OK to exert their own prejudice. A lot of Christians are loving and accepting, too.

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

The very point is that it is not a choice. Homosexuality occurs frequently in animals and humans, what's to say that isn't the way it was meant to be? Maybe it's a natural population control or has some kind of deeper meaning in evolution. Check out about homosexual behaving giraffes.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Even if the Old Testament says that homosexuality is wrong, the Old Testament also contains instances of genocide. Does that mean that genocide is justified since it's done in the Bible?

 

[Watch Me Sink]

Even if the Old Testament says that homosexuality is wrong, the Old Testament also contains instances of genocide. Does that mean that genocide is justified since it's done in the Bible?

Don't give Rick Santorum ideas....

 

[NBK*Twitch]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

WRONG homosexuality is not a choice.... You are born that way its that simple. You do not one day out of the blue say," hey I am gay and going to have relations with a guy". If it was a choice then ask a straight person to go and have relations with a gay. I bet they will say no I am not gay.

 

[OiLerz284]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

WRONG homosexuality is not a choice.... You are born that way its that simple. You do not one day out of the blue say," hey I am gay and going to have relations with a guy". If it was a choice then ask a straight person to go and have relations with a gay. I bet they will say no I am not gay.

Then how do you explain bi-sexuals?

I do think homosexuality is a choice, but is effected by factors around you, and during your childhood.

I have nothing against homosexuals, while I don't think it is natural (a man has a penis, a woman has a vagina for a reason) as long as I do not see any homosexual activity or anything, it doesn't effect my life, and I have no right to tell them to stop or how to live their life.

But, I won't pretend I am perfectly okay with it. Because I'm not.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Homosexuality definitely isn't a choice. If it were a choice, why would anybody choose to be gay when people discriminate against them so harshly?

Sexual orientation also isn't a black and white thing. Most people have at least a small amount of bisexuality in them. In fact, the vast majority of people do.

 

[Gimgak]

Homosexuality definitely isn't a choice. If it were a choice, why would anybody choose to be gay when people discriminate against them so harshly?

Sexual orientation also isn't a black and white thing. Most people have at least a small amount of bisexuality in them. In fact, the vast majority of people do.

What you sayin I aint gay I got the bible on my back im gay for jesus yo that means im straight as a straightedge!

No Im kidding that's most likely true, its also likely that the people that discriminate against homosexuality the most are those that suppress their own feelings about their sexuality.

 

[NBK*Twitch]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

WRONG homosexuality is not a choice.... You are born that way its that simple. You do not one day out of the blue say," hey I am gay and going to have relations with a guy". If it was a choice then ask a straight person to go and have relations with a gay. I bet they will say no I am not gay.

Then how do you explain bi-sexuals?

I do think homosexuality is a choice, but is effected by factors around you, and during your childhood.

I have nothing against homosexuals, while I don't think it is natural (a man has a penis, a woman has a vagina for a reason) as long as I do not see any homosexual activity or anything, it doesn't effect my life, and I have no right to tell them to stop or how to live their life.

But, I won't pretend I am perfectly okay with it. Because I'm not.

It is the same for Bi Sexual's you are born that way. If it is a choice then go have sex with the same sex right now. I bet you won't and you know why, because your not homosexual or bisexual.

 

[Zaborg]

I mean, I got a friend who had a good point. It's obvious that being homosexual is not how it was meant to be.
But then again, I guess skin isn't supposed to be altered, yet people get tattoos. It's just one's choice. I don't support it either, but I don't have a problem with it.

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I do think homosexuality is a choice, but is effected by factors around you, and during your childhood.

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Excuse me, but you are totally wrong here. I have got no idea how people can even think like that because it doesn't make any logical sense. Take a minute, think, and you will start to understand the core of this.
Sorry, but I just can't tolerate this.

 

[Hotspot]

Tolerate or support?

SUPPORT! OF COURSE! It would be weird if I didn't, since I am homosexual too!

Dislike or protest?

Is protest a good or bad thing? XD

Choice or natural?

IT IS NOT A CHOICE! Why would anyone CHOOSE To be a part of a group that is widely hated? Why would anyone choose to say they are something that could result in their injury because of all of the hatred? Why would anyone choose to be kicked out of the house or get fired from a job for being gay? No one in their right mind would EVER choose something that could hurt them in the long run.

And I sure as heck know it's no choice! When I was struggling to find out what gender I liked, I was deathly afraid that I was gay! The last thing I wanted to be was gay, I was really sad and in a dark place, I didn't want to be gay and that was my fear for a very long time. If it was a choice, I would be straight, but I am not because you cannot choose who you are attracted to! A straight man cannot get a hard on for a guy, no matter how hard they try! And a straight girl can't get the hots for a girl either, because they did not choose to be straight.

 

[Deleted member 1609]

Tolerate or support?

SUPPORT! OF COURSE! It would be weird if I didn't, since I am homosexual too!

I find all the talk about being "tolerant" of homosexuality to be hogwash. People shouldn't tolerate homosexuality; they should embrace it. After all, it's a very natural thing.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I tolerated my boss today. I find "tolerating" gay people much easier.