Illegal Downloads

Brother, I gotta tell ya... it doesn't matter how many people we have on the inside. It's still their house.

Corrupt copyright laws over media is a symptom of a Fascist State. The State is using the corporations to slow down overall development by slowing down the movement of our media.
I wouldn't trust anyone that far into the belly of the beast. I just trust grassroots change.

But I'll wish the best to them.
 
At least admit, if there's enough of them in there, and they still can't pass the "change" then it'll be rather blunt. If people see the corruption, that causes revolts and such. It'll be rather hard for the military to communicate within itself if all the satellites have been hacked by the revolvers eh? I personally know someone who has control of a military grade (though it's no longer "active") satellite. He doesn't do much with it other than study what information was passed through it, but he does know how to make it work if a revolt were to ever take place. I'm just saying, if they refuse change to those people when there's enough of the people that want it, we're going to have some major issues. At least agree with me there ~razz~
 
Yeah. It's good to know that people are thinking of alternative strategies.

But I also worry about people like your friend being a dying breed.

Look at the open source movement. Ok, it's pretty wicked. But it's slowly being taken over by the off-the-shelf corporations who are making 'open source' software, copyrighting it, then releasing it to the people and allowing them to edit it as much as they want as long as copyright remains visible on it.
And of course, I'm talking specifically of CMS software like Joomla and phpBB. This is a huge industry, the CMS industry. For example: we wouldn't be communicating, or at least this successfully without phpBB corporation.

We now call this "open source", when really it isn't. They corner and civilize the development of the software, and stigmatise 3rd party contributions.

Open source should be about initiating people into the ability to code and create for themselves. What happened to music is now happening to open source, hacking, and all other computer skills. Less of the authentic stuff is funnelling through.

I want to learn how to play with php and sql for this reason. And teach others how to do it. At least then we can have some power to create in our hands.
 
BitTorrent is growing at an amazing speed and music and movie developers becoming extremely frustrated by this, as no proper tools/blocks have been implemented to stop BitTorrent clients, although I hear that Virgin Media are banning all BitTorrent clients sometime this year, so that's a start I guess, there loss though, they will see an significant rise in customers leaving them for O2 who don't restrict their broadband and currently have amazing reviews. However, when Virgin Media do ban BitTorrent clients, you can guarantee there will be some geek who figures out how to get around the ban, whether it be simply installing a tool and running it, or going deep into your modem settings to take down the ban (cant be that hard, as thousands of users were getting internet for free from Virgin Media - and still are.. Must be saying something).

There are many groups that monitor download behavior on torrent sites such as The Pirate Bay, ISO Hunt & MiniNova, and that's why you shouldn't download from any of those sites (I'm not saying you should download illegal content from any site anyway). But.. A so, so, so simple solution to all these problems is use a Private Torrent Site or a Private Tracker (both the same thing really). Private Trackers are private torrent sites that usually require an invite to join them, and hardly ever have any anti-piracy groups on them. Private Trackers will also give you MUCH MUCH MUCH faster download speeds (movies easily in 4 or 5 minutes, depending on the speed of your connection), as 90% of private trackers are run by a ratio where you are required to maintain a 1:1 download/upload ratio, so you basically have to upload the same amount (or more) as you download for you to stay on the site and not have certain privileges removed or be banned from the site. Private Trackers are becoming more and more popular and some private trackers have hundreds of thousands of members which is a lot (for a private tracker at least).

So.. It seems that anti-piracy groups are fighting.. But losing the battle.
 
Thats all it is, a loosing battle, artists are not loosing money, just look at their houses, cars etc. More and more people download everyday, you can't be telling us that compared to the millions of people that download, you have never took a song off P2P? I find that hard to believe.

P2P is the way forward, music Industries are the past. It's about time we took out the middle man that actually steals from artists, they get more of the cut then the actual artist from revenue.

P2P in the future without the Industry stealers will provide artists with instant access to billions of fans, more traffic geared to their website (for tour info etc.) as hardly anyone visits an artist's site off a CD. They will get more publicity, more fans will want to go to their tour and gigs.

Win, win situation.
 
@Victim
I'll agree with most everything you said. However, the bit about private trackers, they arn't always best from my eyes. I'm a member of a few and with my connection speed, it's too hard to keep a 1:1 ratio on their trackers. On TPB and Mininova (which isn't a tracker but you get my point) it's much easier to connect to a swarm of peers and keep my ratio equal. I think my overall ratio is .97 right now, i've been uploading a rather large file (5GB) for a few weeks off and on to fix my ratio (which had dropped to .67). Private trackers can be great though, and i'll probably use them more as speeds get greater.
 
If we switch to digital formats for our music, movies, and more, we can substantially cut down on our use of CDs. They take so long to perish and are broken/rendered useless easily.

So even for our environment
 
Leo Ghost said:
@Victim
I'll agree with most everything you said. However, the bit about private trackers, they arn't always best from my eyes. I'm a member of a few and with my connection speed, it's too hard to keep a 1:1 ratio on their trackers. On TPB and Mininova (which isn't a tracker but you get my point) it's much easier to connect to a swarm of peers and keep my ratio equal. I think my overall ratio is .97 right now, i've been uploading a rather large file (5GB) for a few weeks off and on to fix my ratio (which had dropped to .67). Private trackers can be great though, and i'll probably use them more as speeds get greater.
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I've never had trouble keeping a good ratio... What is your connection speed? I'm on 20Mb and on the main private tracker I use, I have:

Ratio: 8.031 Uploaded: 1.54 TB Downloaded: 196.67 GB
 
Piracy is a major problem for many industries, but is fighting it really the solution?

The more you say "you can't download ____", the more people will do it. If artists release music for free and try to profit from the advertisements and other similar lines, piracy isn't an issue anymore!

Many music artists did this in 2008 and it seemed to work out ok?
 
trigguh said:
Piracy is a major problem for many industries, but is fighting it really the solution?

The more you say "you can't download ____", the more people will do it. If artists release music for free and try to profit from the advertisements and other similar lines, piracy isn't an issue anymore!

Many music artists did this in 2008 and it seemed to work out ok?
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You see.. that would be reasonable and adult.

This is something people just can't do. Stop fighting things, and learn to go with them. Ask "Why do people do X Y Z?" instead of "I hate when people do X Y Z"
 
they dont do x, y and z because people like you would take advantage of their generosity and not donate or anything because your too "frugal" which is just a polite way of saying too cheap to care about anyone else
 
My opinion about illegal downloading is that lots of people do that. And it should still be in the law book.
 
I don't care really what happens with illegal downloading. It is not anything you can really control. Its just people wanting a lot of money for things that should never be that expensive. Like photoshop what the hell does it have to be that expensive. Just make it a normal price and no one would really try and illegally download it. Of course there will be people who will but most will now be able to afford it.
 
@Victim
My connection maxes at 200kb/s... my ISP sucks. My upload it about 70kb/s max, so I have to leave it on for hours while I surf to get a good ratio (which I wouldn't mind if it didn't slow me down so much).
 
http://www.jamendo.com/en/

Some good FREE released music on there from Artists that release their music for free. We HAVE to support sites like these, support open source music torrents and trackers and get the ball rolling on bankrupting the record labels so Artists can start to release music for free and get the full revenue and all the fan's support.
 
@Traygon
THANK YOU! I used to use that site all the time but I lost the link when I re-installed Opera one time and never could remember the name :O
 
I don't see what is wrong with downloading music without paying. At the end doesn't it help the Artists? More people downloading their music = them becoming more famous = people buying tickets to their concert, T-shirts,etc.
 
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