Is obama a socialist?

gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Good!

Do you know what private insurance companies do? I can't have my tonsils out because private insurance won't allow them to be removed unless I have strep throat 12 times in a year.

Insurance companies are all ran by corrupt scumbags, on par with tobacco companies.
that is such a joke. you finally admitted you want public healthcare which is terrible. i cant believe i missed this post before. you really must not be able to think about the reactions from an action. its sad

What's sad is another person has been tainted by the whole health care hate club.

I would go on and tell you about all the good things that public health care has given people in countries like Canada and England. But I kinda feel that the moment I dare to say another country has something better than the U.S, you would be poisoned from my point of the argument forever.


gqgk said:
Irviding said:
... I give up on you.
simply because you know your wrong, yet you keep fighting for it. when you make random facts up thats what happens. you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good. you dont care that with public option healthcare all private companies will be shut down by it. hospitals will overflow. there will be no treatment for any. the mortality rate will skyrocket. and you think that america will be better off like that. you need to take some real politics classes, business classes, psych classes and learn that one thing may sound good, but it actually leads to worse things.

Wrong, he is saying "... I give up on you." because trying to convince you public health care is good is like trying to tell a baby that his reflection in the mirror is in fact not his rarely seen twin brother.

gqgk, just 1 percent of the population own 40 percent of the country's wealth, it makes sense that they should pay a bit more. Oh wait, I forgot, doing that will keep them from getting that yacht they always dreamed of. Sorry bout that, another spoiled dream those democrats just ruined. :roll:

 
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Good!

Do you know what private insurance companies do? I can't have my tonsils out because private insurance won't allow them to be removed unless I have strep throat 12 times in a year.

Insurance companies are all ran by corrupt scumbags, on par with tobacco companies.
that is such a joke. you finally admitted you want public healthcare which is terrible. i cant believe i missed this post before. you really must not be able to think about the reactions from an action. its sad

What's sad is another person has been tainted by the whole health care hate club.

I would go on and tell you about all the good things that public health care has given people in countries like Canada and England. But I kinda feel that the moment I dare to say another country has something better than the U.S, you would be poisoned from my point of the argument forever.
nope, i actually know people from those countries. and not over the internet like you. i know people with families who are mature enough to know whats going on. you prolly dont know anyone in real life that you've actually talked to about that. or else you would know what they really think.

gqgk said:
Irviding said:
... I give up on you.
simply because you know your wrong, yet you keep fighting for it. when you make random facts up thats what happens. you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good. you dont care that with public option healthcare all private companies will be shut down by it. hospitals will overflow. there will be no treatment for any. the mortality rate will skyrocket. and you think that america will be better off like that. you need to take some real politics classes, business classes, psych classes and learn that one thing may sound good, but it actually leads to worse things.

Wrong, he is saying "... I give up on you." because trying to convince you public health care is good is like trying to tell a baby that his reflection in the mirror is in fact not his rarely seen twin brother.

gqgk, just 1 percent of the population own 40 percent of the country's wealth, it makes sense that they should pay a bit more. Oh wait, I forgot, doing that will keep them from getting that yacht they always dreamed of. Sorry bout that, another spoiled dream those democrats just ruined. :roll:

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then they should pay 40% of the nations taxes, not 90%. just because i can afford to have you steal my wallet, should you?
 
gqgk said:
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Good!

Do you know what private insurance companies do? I can't have my tonsils out because private insurance won't allow them to be removed unless I have strep throat 12 times in a year.

Insurance companies are all ran by corrupt scumbags, on par with tobacco companies.
that is such a joke. you finally admitted you want public healthcare which is terrible. i cant believe i missed this post before. you really must not be able to think about the reactions from an action. its sad

What's sad is another person has been tainted by the whole health care hate club.

I would go on and tell you about all the good things that public health care has given people in countries like Canada and England. But I kinda feel that the moment I dare to say another country has something better than the U.S, you would be poisoned from my point of the argument forever.
nope, i actually know people from those countries. and not over the internet like you. i know people with families who are mature enough to know whats going on. you prolly dont know anyone in real life that you've actually talked to about that. or else you would know what they really think.

I thought this was a joke when I first saw it. First off, I in fact, do know other people who are smart enough to know what's going on (and yes, not in cyberspace :yes: ), and who are not abetted by rightist or leftist fables or ideals. In Other words, people who hold neutral views.
And guess what they tell me....


gqgk said:
Irviding said:
... I give up on you.
simply because you know your wrong, yet you keep fighting for it. when you make random facts up thats what happens. you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good. you dont care that with public option healthcare all private companies will be shut down by it. hospitals will overflow. there will be no treatment for any. the mortality rate will skyrocket. and you think that america will be better off like that. you need to take some real politics classes, business classes, psych classes and learn that one thing may sound good, but it actually leads to worse things.

Oaerkae said:
Wrong, he is saying "... I give up on you." because trying to convince you public health care is good is like trying to tell a baby that his reflection in the mirror is in fact not his rarely seen twin brother.

gqgk, just 1 percent of the population owns 40 percent of the country's wealth, it makes sense that they should pay a bit more. Oh wait, I forgot, doing that will keep them from getting that yacht they always dreamed of. Sorry bout that, another spoiled dream those democrats just ruined. :roll:

then they should pay 40% of the nations taxes, not 90%. just because i can afford to have you steal my wallet, should you?

Roflol, you're not that good at math are you, you say 10 percent pay 90 percent, I said 1 percent owns 40 percent. Honestly dude. And also, literally every president before Obama has given tax cuts to the rich, so in other words, if I used your analogy. they have been stealing the wallets of people who can't afford it for ages. Tisk tisk.
 
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Good!

Do you know what private insurance companies do? I can't have my tonsils out because private insurance won't allow them to be removed unless I have strep throat 12 times in a year.

Insurance companies are all ran by corrupt scumbags, on par with tobacco companies.
that is such a joke. you finally admitted you want public healthcare which is terrible. i cant believe i missed this post before. you really must not be able to think about the reactions from an action. its sad

What's sad is another person has been tainted by the whole health care hate club.

I would go on and tell you about all the good things that public health care has given people in countries like Canada and England. But I kinda feel that the moment I dare to say another country has something better than the U.S, you would be poisoned from my point of the argument forever.
nope, i actually know people from those countries. and not over the internet like you. i know people with families who are mature enough to know whats going on. you prolly dont know anyone in real life that you've actually talked to about that. or else you would know what they really think.

I thought this was a joke when I first saw it. First off, I in fact, do know other people who are smart enough to know what's going on (and yes, not in cyberspace :yes: ), and who are not abetted by rightist or leftist fables or ideals. In Other words, people who hold neutral views.
And guess what they tell me....


gqgk said:
Irviding said:
... I give up on you.
simply because you know your wrong, yet you keep fighting for it. when you make random facts up thats what happens. you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good. you dont care that with public option healthcare all private companies will be shut down by it. hospitals will overflow. there will be no treatment for any. the mortality rate will skyrocket. and you think that america will be better off like that. you need to take some real politics classes, business classes, psych classes and learn that one thing may sound good, but it actually leads to worse things.

Oaerkae said:
Wrong, he is saying "... I give up on you." because trying to convince you public health care is good is like trying to tell a baby that his reflection in the mirror is in fact not his rarely seen twin brother.

gqgk, just 1 percent of the population owns 40 percent of the country's wealth, it makes sense that they should pay a bit more. Oh wait, I forgot, doing that will keep them from getting that yacht they always dreamed of. Sorry bout that, another spoiled dream those democrats just ruined. :roll:

then they should pay 40% of the nations taxes, not 90%. just because i can afford to have you steal my wallet, should you?

Roflol, you're not that good at math are you, you say 10 percent pay 90 percent, I said 1 percent owns 40 percent. Honestly dude. And also, literally every president before Obama has given tax cuts to the rich, so in other words, if I used your analogy. they have been stealing the wallets of people who can't afford it for ages. Tisk tisk.
hahaha one percent does not own 40% of america. thats such a joke. and sorry. i though your 1% had to have been a typo. but dont blame you, you math comes outta your... well we wont go there. and how old are the people you know there. because you completely skipped that part. thats quite funny
 
gqgk said:
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Oaerkae said:
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Good!

Do you know what private insurance companies do? I can't have my tonsils out because private insurance won't allow them to be removed unless I have strep throat 12 times in a year.

Insurance companies are all ran by corrupt scumbags, on par with tobacco companies.
that is such a joke. you finally admitted you want public healthcare which is terrible. i cant believe i missed this post before. you really must not be able to think about the reactions from an action. its sad

What's sad is another person has been tainted by the whole health care hate club.

I would go on and tell you about all the good things that public health care has given people in countries like Canada and England. But I kinda feel that the moment I dare to say another country has something better than the U.S, you would be poisoned from my point of the argument forever.
nope, i actually know people from those countries. and not over the internet like you. i know people with families who are mature enough to know whats going on. you prolly dont know anyone in real life that you've actually talked to about that. or else you would know what they really think.

I thought this was a joke when I first saw it. First off, I in fact, do know other people who are smart enough to know what's going on (and yes, not in cyberspace :yes: ), and who are not abetted by rightist or leftist fables or ideals. In Other words, people who hold neutral views.
And guess what they tell me....


gqgk said:
Irviding said:
... I give up on you.
simply because you know your wrong, yet you keep fighting for it. when you make random facts up thats what happens. you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good. you dont care that with public option healthcare all private companies will be shut down by it. hospitals will overflow. there will be no treatment for any. the mortality rate will skyrocket. and you think that america will be better off like that. you need to take some real politics classes, business classes, psych classes and learn that one thing may sound good, but it actually leads to worse things.

Oaerkae said:
Wrong, he is saying "... I give up on you." because trying to convince you public health care is good is like trying to tell a baby that his reflection in the mirror is in fact not his rarely seen twin brother.

gqgk, just 1 percent of the population owns 40 percent of the country's wealth, it makes sense that they should pay a bit more. Oh wait, I forgot, doing that will keep them from getting that yacht they always dreamed of. Sorry bout that, another spoiled dream those democrats just ruined. :roll:

then they should pay 40% of the nations taxes, not 90%. just because i can afford to have you steal my wallet, should you?

Roflol, you're not that good at math are you, you say 10 percent pay 90 percent, I said 1 percent owns 40 percent. Honestly dude. And also, literally every president before Obama has given tax cuts to the rich, so in other words, if I used your analogy. they have been stealing the wallets of people who can't afford it for ages. Tisk tisk.
hahaha one percent does not own 40% of america. thats such a joke. and sorry. i though your 1% had to have been a typo. but dont blame you, you math comes outta your... well we wont go there. and how old are the people you know there. because you completely skipped that part. thats quite funny

Holy crap dude, I have never seen a guy that can say more idiotic things in a single post than you, I really can't.
First off, 1 percent of the population owns 40 percent of the countries wealth, that is a fact, I can back it up, you can't back your misguided claim, so with all due respect, be quiet about it, you don't know anything about it, and your post proves it. 😉

I didn't noticed the part where you mentioned "age" in your post? Huh, funny.
For the record, I know 7 people who are between the ages of 10 to 65 that I was referring to. And that's just 7. :great:

My math comes out of my what?... Oh I get it... brain.
Yeah, I know, to think, I actually use my brain for math, how stupid. Not like you.

Dude, why is it that I get the feeling the whole math part of your post is just an excuse as so not to look like a, well... you know.
 
I thought this topicwas about Obama and is he socialist not about health care. Since were talking about health care, public health care is way better then Insurance companies. America used be in top in health but now because Insurance we have go way down. I can name you thousands of reason why public health care is better.
 
Precisely. The US government, which is without universal healthcare or a public option, spends more on healthcare than nations with universal healtcare or public options do on their healthcare,
 
you think a country where 10% of the people pay 90% of the taxes is good.
That would be wonderful if it were true. Rich people don't need any more money. They consume too many resources as it is (I'm talking about rich celebrities and sports players).

Do you really need a twenty thousand square foot house?

If you ask me, they should be paying more.
 
Since this topic has turned to the healthcare debate I'll address it first. I don't need or want the government interfering with my healthcare coverage. I have worked for years to be able to have a job that provides me with super medical insurance. The reason my employer offers this is because I have the skills that makes the company allot of money and they feel those skills are worth providing that benefit just to keep me around. I've worked and studied hard to achieve this. The problem we have here is there are too many lazy, uneducated, unskilled people who think medical coverage is a right. Now the leftist (socialist) are playing on this and most of you have fallen for their lies.

Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
 
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
 
Irviding said:
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
Only if you'll pull the trigger on me, too.

The United States is the ONLY developed country that doesn't have universal health care, and what Obama is suggesting doesn't even come close to universal health care.
 
Snobothehobo said:
Irviding said:
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
Only if you'll pull the trigger on me, too.

The United States is the ONLY developed country that doesn't have universal health care, and what Obama is suggesting doesn't even come close to universal health care.

Me three. Who do people not want universal health care? It is way better Insurance companies.
 
Irviding said:
No.
Obama is not a socialist. If you ask any real socialist, they would laugh in your face. Obamas ideals are just farther to the left than Bush's, so he's called a socialist. It's politics.


No, he is. He's created "czars" for just about everything under the sun that have the power to override our elected officials.

But on the bright side, I don't debate or talk politics on forums unless the are specific to that forum. A wise man once said, "If you want to keep your friends, don't talk about politics"
 
Dragon Master said:
Snobothehobo said:
Irviding said:
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
Only if you'll pull the trigger on me, too.

The United States is the ONLY developed country that doesn't have universal health care, and what Obama is suggesting doesn't even come close to universal health care.

Me three. Who do people not want universal health care? It is way better Insurance companies.
The middle class and rich people are just afraid of poor people becoming prosperous. They need somebody to look down on.
 
Snobothehobo said:
Dragon Master said:
Snobothehobo said:
Irviding said:
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
Only if you'll pull the trigger on me, too.

The United States is the ONLY developed country that doesn't have universal health care, and what Obama is suggesting doesn't even come close to universal health care.

Me three. Who do people not want universal health care? It is way better Insurance companies.
The middle class and rich people are just afraid of poor people becoming prosperous. They need somebody to look down on.


So... you can speak for the heart of everyone?
 
Don't tell me ya'll haven't heard the latest commercials that feature a host of Hollywood leftist stating "We will be servants to President Obama". He wants all of us trading in our suv's for little battery powered gocarts and relying on the government for our every need.
 
Snobothehobo said:
Dragon Master said:
Snobothehobo said:
Irviding said:
Stogi said:
Yes Obama is a socialist, or maybe even a dictator at heart. He wants all of us to be his servant and bow down to him. Don't for a minute thank I'm far from the truth. If you don't see it now you're a fool.
Can someone just shoot me please?
Only if you'll pull the trigger on me, too.

The United States is the ONLY developed country that doesn't have universal health care, and what Obama is suggesting doesn't even come close to universal health care.

Me three. Who do people not want universal health care? It is way better Insurance companies.
The middle class and rich people are just afraid of poor people becoming prosperous. They need somebody to look down on.

I think it is more rich because I am middle class and I know a lot of middle class that like universal health care. Also did you know in countries that have universal health care people live more then a average rich American?

@ Stogi: Don't believe everything you seen in commercials. I could make commercial say i am the king of the world but doesn't that make me king of the world?
 
No, he's not a Socialist. He is a Liberal, though not as Liberal as I would like him to be.

What I don't get is people saying that Obama is trying to kill people, and stuff like that. Do you know how many people die because the health care industry won't cover them? But no one is saying the insurance companies are evil. He wants to give people the option to choose a public option, so that it gives insurance companies competition. Which will keep the insurance companies from ripping people off.

Obama is not going to destroy America, no matter what Glen Beck told you, it's not happening. Then again, Obama's just winning the election may have already destroyed your white America. :shake:
 
Stogi said:
Don't tell me ya'll haven't heard the latest commercials that feature a host of Hollywood leftist stating "We will be servants to President Obama". He wants all of us trading in our suv's for little battery powered gocarts and relying on the government for our every need.

If anyone takes their advice on who to vote for or how to vote based of celebrity opinions, we'd end up with a president like Obama...oh wait...
 
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