Isis?

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I agree with almost every post in this section.

Isis is not a threat, they are just stupid. Personally I think the extremest action should be taken against them. Law abiding* citizens should be evacuated and ISIS bombed out. Yes blow up the entire nation they are in as long as all citizens are evacuated.

Something needs to be done and quickly.... We cannot endorse this any longer

*= If this is possible

 

[Rebel]

What's the difference from the USA bombing a city/town/village/hospital/school/home and killing innocent women and children and ISIS or any other "terrorist" group bombing a building and killing innocent women and children?

The difference is that the US does not bomb a city/town/village/hospital/school/home in the first place.
so, when the united states attacked iraq unprovoked, cities weren't bombed? innocent women and children destroyed? i think you're mistaken that the united states don't bomb the innocent...

The US follows, as does most of the civilized world, the Geneva Conventions and the articles within it.
that's a complete lie right there...

Secondly we follow the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC).

@The Grinch
also, proved wrong...

So such targets as you erroneously tried to claim America targets cannot and have not been targeted due to these laws.
if you really believe in that then you're truly delusional... the fact is that the united states does attack others and kill innocent women and children... iraq is total proof of that fact...

Causalities do happen in war.
okay, and? same thing could be said about the casualties from isis, after-all, it's a war over there, right?

Ever hear the term "war is hell"?
sure, so why are you so angry about isis killing in their war?

That's not just some story book quote.
i'm sure hell is much worse than war...

The difference is ISIS indiscriminately kills without any regard for humanity or rights.
so, let me get this straight, when the "good guys" kill, it's justified, but when people we don't agree with and dislike, it's terror and injustice? can't be so hypocritical and one sided now can we? isis is at war over there and what you say, war is hell and there are going to be people killed in wars...

They kill, rape, and steal simply because they can.
american military personnel did the same thing in iraq...

They follow no laws and they hide among civilians to blend in.
actually, isis does have their own law and order...

There's really no way to compare ISIS and America in any form at all. Not sober anyways.
why not? because the truth hurts and inconvenient?

People like to forget that the USA kills the most humans as well as incarcerate more of their own citizens than any other country or group...

People like to forget a lot of things but people like you are the ones who like to never research in the first place and promote your own narrative on events.
umm, it's the facts that i'm speaking... i'm sorry that the truth goes against you...

If you had researched the topic you wouldn't be saying such nonsensical things at all.
i'm very well knowledgeable and it seems to me that you cannot prove what i say to be wrong because you can't... everything i've said is fact...

Of course people are going to forget something that you made up
what's made up? you have not yet proven anything i've said to be false, you're just telling me that i'm wrong with out bringing forth facts to back up your claims and to disprove what i say, instead you try to make me out to be someone that's making things up, in which you're still not proving me wrong nor bringing forth any facts to do so... that's how a debate works my good chum...

...propaganda wasn't interesting to be remembered in past wars and it certainly isn't interesting enough to be remembered in this one either. Only facts rule at the end of the day.
i'm not spreading any propaganda, only the truth... truth is that america has killed more humans on this earth than any muslim/arab country/group...

let me make myself clear...

i do not support terrorists...
i do not support terrorism...
i do not support hate...
i do not support murder...
i do not support evil...
i do not support violence...
i do not support injustice...

You just dismissed everything I said without even considering it.

What exactly are your qualifications for just dimissing everything? When we're you in war and what was your duty exactly? Please do not be an armchair general or lawyer because that would just be moronic (it happens far too often).

I'm sorry but until you can provide a debate, instead of the silliness you just tried to pass off, I'm still going to consider you a supporter of the things you say you do not.

Just go back to Call of Duty man. It's not this hard. You're clearly talking out of your hat and it's just wrong. It's hateful. It's offensive. Just say you hate America and be done with it.

 

[John]

ISIS IS a direct threat to the US.

All, it takes (proven by 9/11)is an airplane and a terrorist to make an attack on US soil.

Unfortunately, until something like that happens, Obama will not put boots on the ground.<br /><br />-- 20 Dec 2014, 02:53 --<br /><br />How many people do you see being beheaded on YouTube by the USA?

 

[+Justice]

fbi has officially confessed that they did not know who the "terrorists" actually were that took over the planes, if you actually believe in the spoon fed bs that the government told the world to believe...

so, again, where's the proof of who did 9/11?

there's more proof that it was a inside job, just do your research...

and Erin, you have not yet proven me wrong on anything but i've proved my points to you as facts back them up...

i'm an american and i don't hate america, i just disagree with all the lies and deception that's going on, and how america is right now... just because i don't like the american government doesn't mean i don't love america...

 

[John]

He is ISIS law and order http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12/19 ... 596164509/

 

[+Justice]

"according to reports" eh?

you do know that foxs news is not a real news company, don't you?

 

[John]

What is a terrorism?

The systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

 

[+Justice]

What is a terrorism?

The systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

and america and other countries aren't guilty of terrorizing the innocent?

 

[John]

What is a terrorism?

The systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

and america and other countries aren't guilty of terrorizing the innocent?

after the country has already attacked America or an American ally. Look at WW2 (Pearl Harbor) Afghanistan(9/11) Vietnam(north Vietnam attacking south Vietnam)

 

[+Justice]

japan attacked pearl harbor wasn't a good thing but america did cut the japanese off, and america let it happen... so instead of letting guys know that they were going to be attacked, the president/government let it happen... and it's a fact that the us government were treating japanese americans harshly and poorly...

there's no proof that afghanistan did 9/11, where's the proof? thank you, i'll be waiting forever for your proof...

vietnam was a mistake on america's part when we entered... the us should have never been apart of that war...

 

[Kindle]

Wait, wait, wait, everyone i need your attention!

I agree with a majority of the ideas and opinions posted on this topic, but are we forgetting about WikiLeaks. If you've browsed through the articles on Iraq, Afghan, and Baghdad. The U.S. Military has killed 30,000 of their citizens and a few of their own reporters by mistaking them for terrorists. The guy just wanted to take his own kids to school, but a chopper gunner mowed him and three other reporters down.

Western media lies too much and brain washes all of it's viewers.

Obama is doing a fine job, stop complaining -- is like the guy has enough of a say when Republicans are standing in the way.

ISIS are just another group of extremist morons who don't fully understand Islam. The prophet (PBUH) has said, prior to his death, in the hadeeth that all Muslims should be brothers and none of them should be separated in groups -- their supposed to be united. There shouldn't be shiites or sunni's. Their supposed to be together; just like when George Washington died, he didn't want separate groups working in the government i.e. republicans and democrats.

If both of these separated groups dissolved into one; we wouldn't be dealing with this problem today or that government shutdown that happened like a year ago.

 

[John]

japan attacked pearl harbor wasn't a good thing but america did cut the japanese off, and america let it happen... so instead of letting guys know that they were going to be attacked, the president/government let it happen... and it's a fact that the us government were treating japanese americans harshly and poorly...

there's no proof that afghanistan did 9/11, where's the proof? thank you, i'll be waiting forever for your proof...

vietnam was a mistake on america's part when we entered... the us should have never been apart of that war...

Afghanistan
The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to extradite him without evidence of his involvement in the 9/11 attacks. The United States refused to negotiate and launched Operation Enduring Freedom on 7 October 2001 with the United Kingdom and later joined by Germany and other western allies, to attack the Taliban and al-Qaeda forces in conjunction with the Northern Alliance.

Why was Vietnam a mistake? FDR "let" Pearl Harbor happen? Oh wait... you don't know or have any actual facts, you just say stuff snd expect me to believe it.

 

[+Justice]

there's no proof that bin laden was the mastermind of 9/11, and it's been proven that the guy in the video when he "confessed" to being behind 9/11 to be a fake bin laden by many professionals...

it's all propaganda... the jews owns the media and the media are lying to you!

it's a fact that the government had prior knowledge of the attacking japanese but did not stop it because they needed a reason to enter the war and have the americans get behind it... it's a facts and the release of documents are the facts that i'm speaking to you...

you clearly need to do research and not be so gullible to believe whatever the media/government tells you!

 

[Deleted member 17779]

They may seem like a minor threat now but if you let me go now then they could grow into something bigger or something worse than they are now. What would have happened if everyone decided Hitler was no big deal or just a minor threat? What would have happened if no one stood up to him?

 

[PirateAlphas]

I think they are mostly mad at jordan right now

 

[+Justice]

I think they are mostly mad at jordan right now

because they think jordan sold out to the west?

 

[Vulture01]

there's no proof that bin laden was the mastermind of 9/11, and it's been proven that the guy in the video when he "confessed" to being behind 9/11 to be a fake bin laden by many professionals...

it's all propaganda... the jews owns the media and the media are lying to you!

it's a fact that the government had prior knowledge of the attacking japanese but did not stop it because they needed a reason to enter the war and have the americans get behind it... it's a facts and the release of documents are the facts that i'm speaking to you...

you clearly need to do research and not be so gullible to believe whatever the media/government tells you!

You are absolutely rite Mr Justice. Which is why this question always comes into my mind ..how is Israel still unharmed when it is surrounded by Al Queda & ISIS? Why have the anti JEW Extremest groups have never infiltrated Israel like they did to SYRIA OR IRAQ? Why were they quiet when Israel almost completely destroyed Palestine? Are Palestinians not muslims? Isnt ISIS fighting in the name of Islam?

 

[htb24]

I don't feel that ISIS are a threat to my country (UK) but they are definitely a growing problem as they are murdering a lot of people. They are also destroying Historical artefacts to try and censor history, that is just ridiculous.

 

[Thomasss]

They need to be stopped, they're killing aid workers and reporters that were not even harmed. Even worse, they're beheading them. Also, we can't just allow them to control such a large piece of land down in the ME. That is where a lot of oil comes from. It will not be long until ground troops are sent in, American, British and a few other European forces should be able to wipe ISIS. They're a group of suicidal, mortar loving, gun spraying maniacs. We have highly trained troops with a lot of technology.

This pretty much sums up my feel and love of ISIS. Well said!

 

[MrDawn]

I don't like ISIS because they seem to be killing innocent people. Every time I think of ISIS, I remember one of their videos where they're hacking the heads off of innocent people.