Obama Re-elected

Watch Me Sink said:
This is a huge circle-jerk about everybody loving Obama. Personally, I can't wait for another 4 years of violating civil liberties, continued embargos with peaceful nations, continued worldwide military occupation and more drone strikes on possibly innocent people! IT'S GONNA BE A PARTY!!!

(shhh, don't tell tumblr this, they might execute me)

EDIT: $10 that Guantanamo is still open in 4 years, and that we're still in Afghanistan then too.

Guantanamo would have been closed by now. It was blocked by Republicans.
 
President T Toilet said:
Watch Me Sink said:
This is a huge circle-jerk about everybody loving Obama. Personally, I can't wait for another 4 years of violating civil liberties, continued embargos with peaceful nations, continued worldwide military occupation and more drone strikes on possibly innocent people! IT'S GONNA BE A PARTY!!!

(shhh, don't tell tumblr this, they might execute me)

EDIT: $10 that Guantanamo is still open in 4 years, and that we're still in Afghanistan then too.

Guantanamo would have been closed by now. It was blocked by Republicans.
Try again.

Also, a Supreme Court case/ruling could easily close the base there, it's only up to Congress to approve how to pay for it, even if they don't agree with it.

Snobothehobo said:
Watch Me Sink said:
EDIT: And I thought it was comical that Mitt picked Paul Ryan as VP. Thought it was some cruel joke or something.
I thought that was hilarious as well. They took one of the craziest loons in the party and made him Romney's running mate! Obama couldn't have dreamed up a better scenario.

I think that Obama's stance change on gay marriage was a strategic move to try to get the liberal vote after what has been basically four more years of a Bush presidency. It seems like it worked for some reason.
Yep. Because let's vote for somebody on the basis of one social issue and call everybody who doesn't support him for that one reason a bigot! Nevermind the countries we're bombing every day! That's ok, because they don't support gay marriage either!

To be completely honest, I'd rather vote for somebody who had great fiscal policies and didn't invade/drone strike other countries but opposed gay marriage than somebody who bombs countries every other day but support gay marriage.

To the people besides Gimgak and Snobo: I did not vote for Romney.
 
I'm guessing you voted for Johnson?

I honestly don't like any of the mainstream candidates we have available. Gay marriage is a very important issue, but it shouldn't be an issue in my opinion. Having candidates who are against gay marriage is similar to having candidates who are against black marriage.

However, at the end of the day, I wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's for gay marriage. On the other hand, I don't think I'd vote for any candidate who is against gay marriage.
 
Snobothehobo said:
However, at the end of the day, I wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's for gay marriage. On the other hand, I don't think I'd vote for any candidate who is against gay marriage.
Ehh, Obama only supports gay marriage now because it's the hip and cool thing to do. Just like it's the hip and cool thing to murder muslim children
 
Snobothehobo said:
I'm guessing you voted for Johnson?
Yeah.
Gimgak said:
Snobothehobo said:
However, at the end of the day, I wouldn't vote for Obama just because he's for gay marriage. On the other hand, I don't think I'd vote for any candidate who is against gay marriage.
Ehh, Obama only supports gay marriage now because it's the hip and cool thing to do. Just like it's the hip and cool thing to murder muslim children
And indefinitely detaining people without being charged for a crime! Bush was totally a hipster.
 
Gimgak said:
Ehh, Obama only supports gay marriage now because it's the hip and cool thing to do.
It shouldn't really be a popular thing so much as a common sense issue.
 
Taz said:
But then again, your founding fathers were freemason, aka aluminati. I even heard it on a government channel.
And whats your point? I mean even if that were true... They are still the founding fathers... and still believed church and state should be separated ..
 
The election was fraudulent. The media is left-dominated and thus not even Fox (NOT a right-wing source despite propaganda) will admit it, but this is pretty obviously a fraud.

Obama even threw Republican poll workers out of the polls. It cannot be a coincidence that the Tea Party influence was disintegrated by this. As well, Romney lost by just all of the swing states, and just narrowly. Coincidence? Nope.

Also, Taz, the Congo is not going to be nuked as the opening to WWIII. And Hotspot, what civil right would Romney have violated? Obama rips innocent children limb from limb by the millions.
 
Yeah, and the people that made racist remarks about Herman Cain and accusations that he would only be nominated to look tolerant of minorities disagree.

I'm serious, though, so you should give a serious response. Hah.
 
Nuke said:
And Hotspot, what civil right would Romney have violated?

Oh gee idk...

Womens Rights (Birth Control and Abortion)

LGBT Rights (Right to marry, right to openly serve in the military, right to adopt)

n thats just the tip of the iceberg
 
Doesn't come anywhere close to the civil liberties Obama violates. Let's jail journalists and whistle-blowers, pass laws that allow indefinite detaining of US citizens. Hey look, it's the PATRIOT Act 2.0! Funny how so many people think that he's different than Bush. I like Bush better than Obama, because despite his doing all that stuff, he stuck to his positions. Obama is just trying to please everybody and is trying too hard.

The President has very little say over LGBT issues. There's no way that there's going to be a bill on his desk any time soon saying that it is illegal for states to not issue marriage licenses to persons of the same sex. In fact, I'm 99% sure it will come to a Supreme court case ruling.
 
Watch Me Sink said:
Doesn't come anywhere close to the civil liberties Obama violates. Let's jail journalists and whistle-blowers, pass laws that allow indefinite detaining of US citizens. Hey look, it's the PATRIOT Act 2.0! Funny how so many people think that he's different than Bush. I like Bush better than Obama, because despite his doing all that stuff, he stuck to his positions. Obama is just trying to please everybody and is trying too hard.

The President has very little say over LGBT issues. There's no way that there's going to be a bill on his desk any time soon saying that it is illegal for states to not issue marriage licenses to persons of the same sex. In fact, I'm 99% sure it will come to a Supreme court case ruling.

I am not saying Obama is any better thank you.... I dislike Obama as much as I did Romney...

I know Obama has taking many rights away from us.. and is planning to take more..
 
It was basically a choice between having civil liberties violated and the economy destroyed due to continuing failed policies of Bush (Obama) or having civil liberties violated, having the economy destroyed due to continuing failed policies of Bush, and being at war with Iran (Romney).

I'm not saying that it's impossible that we'll go to war with Iran under Obama, though. With Romney, though, it would happen on day one.
 
Watch Me Sink said:
Instead, we'll just send drones over to the middle east. nbd
I'm definitely not denying that Obama's droning civilians is horrible.
 
Snobothehohoho said:
Watch Me Sink said:
Instead, we'll just send drones over to the middle east. nbd
I'm definitely not denying that Obama's droning civilians is horrible.
Oh I wasn't saying that you weren't saying that, but considering that we're bombing Pakistan at the rate of >1 per week, it's safe to say that we're at war with them. If another country were to bomb us a few times a week would we just sit around and say it's ok? No, Obama would (drone strike them a few times then) declare war (though it isn't in his power to do so) and bomb the stuff out of the other nation.
 
NBK*Twitch said:
Nuke said:
And Hotspot, what civil right would Romney have violated?

Oh gee idk...

Womens Rights (Birth Control and Abortion)

LGBT Rights (Right to marry, right to openly serve in the military, right to adopt)

n thats just the tip of the iceberg
The first two are worthy of the death penalty, and he really supported them.

Romney was for legal unions, just not full marriage. No violations of any rights.

He never said that DADT was good.

He never said that adoption with gay parents should be outlawed.
 
Nuke said:
The first two are worthy of the death penalty, and he really supported them.
Wait... hold it a minute. Did you just say that using birth control is worthy of the death penalty?
 
Nuke said:
NBK*Twitch said:
Nuke said:
And Hotspot, what civil right would Romney have violated?

Oh gee idk...

Womens Rights (Birth Control and Abortion)

LGBT Rights (Right to marry, right to openly serve in the military, right to adopt)

n thats just the tip of the iceberg
The first two are worthy of the death penalty, and he really supported them.

Romney was for legal unions, just not full marriage. No violations of any rights.

He never said that DADT was good.

He never said that adoption with gay parents should be outlawed.

He did not support abortion, he stated he believes life begins at conception and wanted to make the u.s law revolve around that. It was even on his election site.

Right he was not for Gay Marriage... Period.. When the LGBT should be allowed to marry. And don't give me all that tradition value bull crap either. Over 50% of marriages end in divorce as it is...

He has never out right said gays should be allowed to adopt. Yes he hinted at it in a vague way but other then that nothing...

As for DADT romney supported it all the way up to 2011.. when he was planning on running for president... Kinda funny isn't it?

He pretty much did what Obama did on Gay Marriage. He changed his views to simply gain more votes.
 
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