Pro-gun vs. Anti-gun

Hotspot said:
I'm anti-gun, there are so many innocent people killed by guns each year.
I'm anti-automobile because so many people crash and die while driving from point A to point B. We should ban cars because people get run over and crashes happen. And horses too. Horses trample and kill people. Oh, and donkeys, and karts...

The list goes on and on.
 
Cosmic said:
Hotspot said:
I'm anti-gun, there are so many innocent people killed by guns each year.
I'm anti-automobile because so many people crash and die while driving from point A to point B. We should ban cars because people get run over and crashes happen. And horses too. Horses trample and kill people. Oh, and donkeys, and karts...

The list goes on and on.
Automobiles have a purpose in society. They're a fast and efficient mean of transportation, whereas guns are a feeble excuse to defend yourself when giving someone a good whack on the head with a blunt instrument will do a much better job of stopping them.

By the way, I'm anti-humans. Humans are the idiots who drive the automobiles and pull the triggers on the guns.
 
I'm sure many people who do not drive think automobiles are useless. There are many religious groups which shun modern life. Anyway, guns can be used for the following purposes legally:

• To defend oneself.
• To hunt animals (in many places this is legal).
• Shooting ranges. I'm sure many people enjoy shooting at targets. Also there is a sport where a marksman will throw a small object into the air and shoot it before it hits to the ground.
• to give oneself a sense of security.

You just don't like guns because you don't live in a high-crime area. If you did, then you would be of a different opinion. In a high-crime area, you want to be armed. If you have a knife and they have a knife, then it's pretty much "game over", because thuggish types will probably win in a knife fight.
 
Sam! said:
Cosmic said:
Hotspot said:
I'm anti-gun, there are so many innocent people killed by guns each year.
I'm anti-automobile because so many people crash and die while driving from point A to point B. We should ban cars because people get run over and crashes happen. And horses too. Horses trample and kill people. Oh, and donkeys, and karts...

The list goes on and on.
Automobiles have a purpose in society. They're a fast and efficient mean of transportation, whereas guns are a feeble excuse to defend yourself when giving someone a good whack on the head with a blunt instrument will do a much better job of stopping them.

By the way, I'm anti-humans. Humans are the idiots who drive the automobiles and pull the triggers on the guns.
But it's not that simple. It's not as simple as "take away all guns and give people blunt objects".

It comes to life and death. Read these two hypothetical (but very realistic as they happen probably everyday, for all we know could be happening right now) stories. If you can respond disputing them at all, please do, because I am interested in trying to convince you here.

story 1 said:
You and your wife are asleep. Your three kids are tucked into bed. A criminal shows up to your house, with a handgun, and picks the lock to the door, then proceed to open the door slowly. You are awoken by the noise, you tell your wife to stay in bed and call the police, while you grab a blunt object to check out what's going on. (say a baseball bat or a golf club). You walk into your hallway, and suddenly, you see the criminal at a 6 yard distance.
Stop and think. Who will win here? The criminal with the handgun (regardless of whether or not he's trained, all it takes is one bullet to knock you down) or you with your bat? The criminal with the handgun, obviously. He shoots you twice, you are down, bleeding on the floor, and now your wife and children are left unprotected. I'm not going to go on about what could happen after that.
This can even go another way, you could be threatened by him with the handgun, and he could take you and your family hostage. Doing whatever he wishes and having full control, with you completely unable to help. As I said above, I'm not going into further details.

story 2 said:
You and your wife are asleep. Your three kids are tucked into bed. A criminal, armed with a handgun, shows up to your home. He picks the lock to the door, and then slowly opens it. You and your wife are awoken. You get out of your bed and grab your handgun from the safe, locked drawer, or some other safe spot. You tell your wife to stay in bed, and you go into the hallway. You see the criminal, and you point your handgun at him. At this point, he is likely startled. This can end in many ways, but the most common I can think of are:
1) He is scared off by your gun and runs out the door
2) He goes for his gun and you shoot him (trying to be non-lethal)
3) He already has his gun, and shoots you. You can possibly get a shot off on him, or you could just end up dead.

The most common occurrence, according to statistics, would be situation 1. Of course the movies it's either 2 or 3 (come on, what fun is it when the guy runs away and there's no violence 😀) however, in real life, 1 is generally most likely to occur. If 3 does occur, at least you did something other than run out of your room with a golf club.

I hope these helped you, as I said, these are very common occurrences. Something like that could be happening as I am writing this, and when you are reading it.
 
I'm pro-gun and I believe people should learn how to use them if the situation ever arrives. People who wish to use guns for illegal use will get them one way or another, and I'd like to be armed for my own security.


Also, keep in mind that our prisons are filled with Marijuana users, which is why our jailed population is so high.
 
I'm pro-gun.

What if Aliens with highly lethal weapons invaded Earth? 😛

All we'd have to fight back is Golf Clubs and Baseball Bats. 😀
 
There's an old white man in my neighborhood who has a sign posted on his door saying "Fight crime shoot back." Obvious he's a pro-gun proponent. He is also an active member of one of my websites.
 
barutiwa said:
There's an old white man in my neighborhood who has a sign posted on his door saying "Fight crime shoot back." Obvious he's a pro-gun proponent. He is also an active member of one of my websites.
Interesting guy, lol.
 
I would also have to say that I am Pro-Gun...The Situation that Irviding described above are exactly why. I have been in that very situation before and having my gun saved my family and me...
 
I should fill in a few things here from GooseDenis' original post. Canada had a gun control law. You had to have a license to have a gun, and you can't use it or bring it to the mall or anything. He was right. (well over 50% by the way) The majority of Canadian gun-related crimes were done using smuggled American guns. That's basically what happens when they have the right to possess firearms and we don't.

I personally am anti-gun. I mean if you don't have the tools to be destructive, then, well, how are you gonna be destructive? That's my idealist side, at least. When I look at the United States and people who are anti-gun, unfortunately, they're fighting a lost war. Cuts unfortunately hurt (including if they are to rights). When I studied American History, the second amendment in the Bill of Rights is the one about guns, and the right to possess them, right? I was taught that the American people got the right in case the British wanted to invade them again. I guess that was then. To this day, I do think Amendment II is likely the most out-of-date right to any Bill or Charter of Rights, but maybe that's just me. Being a Canadian, it does scare me that people would be scared enough to have to bring guns to the mall, but what can I say? There are people out there who really misuse their rights and abuse them, but there are also others who only would ever have a gun just because they are scared someone will kill them and they have to defend themselves. Any right will have people properly and improperly using that particular right (I could go to marijuana, but it's late). Bottomline? As much as I hate having gun possession, there's nothing much I can, or want to do to ban it. I'm a big non-believer in an arms race, but banning guns wouldn't really do anything, as people will still carry firearms, I guarantee you. It's kind of like what CAN-SPAM did (or tried).
 
I do believe that people should have guns, in Ireland the gun law is pretty strict, it takes quite awhile to get a gun license, normally you would have to have your own land, and you must have a gun cabinet, then have the ammo stashed somewhere else away from the guns in a safe most likely. And you do get inspections from the garda (police service) to see if the rules are being followed. And so it is really hard to get away with a crime involving a gun in Ireland as it is under so much control.
 
If you're under that much control, why even own a gun? I suspect that there are even more regulations on how you can't carry it in public, have it in a car, touch the gun, etc.
 
Yes of course why should anyone be allowed to carry a gun in public that is just asking for someone to get shot.
 
Why should the US have a military, we're just asking to invade Canada.

Why should we have nuclear weapons, we're just asking to get blown up.

The above two statements, along with the above poster are completely rediculous.

If I see people in public with guns, I'm not going to think they are going to go on some murderous rampage.

*Edit: As long as the gun was holstered.
 
Most people who carry a gun in public have caused a crime or are going to commit a crime. So that is why you should not be allowed to carry a gun in public for the safety of others and to stop crime.
 
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