Racism
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Bahaha no worries man, just took a break from forums and such. Should be back for a while now. Glad to see I was missed, especially by someone of such a high caliber awesomeness 😛Gimgak said:
Having a law in place won't stop all racism completely. However, it shows a willingness of the state to oppose it, it presents a deterrent to people, it will support the rights of victims in a legal sense. Saying we won't make a law because it won't get rid of it all completely at once id ridiculous.
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What exactly do you define as racism though?ItsZippy said:
Glenn Beck saying "10% of muslims are terrorists"
Is that racism, or just stupidity?
All Americans are god fearing gun loving idiots.
Racism or stupidity
I don't know where I'd draw the line, but one could be drawn. Perhaps anything that is meant to cause offence - each case can then be judged individually.
You can't say that having to draw a line means that the idea is fundamentally wrong. Just because it is hard to draw a line does not mean that a line should not be drawn. Repeatedly looking at the technicalities takes the focus off the important moral and social aspects of the debate.
You can't say that having to draw a line means that the idea is fundamentally wrong. Just because it is hard to draw a line does not mean that a line should not be drawn. Repeatedly looking at the technicalities takes the focus off the important moral and social aspects of the debate.
What right do you have not to be verbally abused? I could say all sorts of stuff that you might consider verbally abusive that has nothing to do with racism and is not agaisnt any law. I could say I think you are beyond your scope in this discussion and you could feel I am verbally abusing you but does that make it illegal or wrong? The worst part of censorship is (Admin edit)
No line could be drawn nor enforced. The government prosecuting people who say things offensive? Are you serious? How about prosecute anyone who talks negativly about the government? That doesnt sound like a step in the right direction. How about this...everyone who is so easily upset by the words of others can get a thicker skin and realize that person can think whatever they want but that doesnt change the way things are. Sticks and stones, right?
All of this is relative anyway. Should the tax payers pay for someone to judge what the intent was behind everything you say? What about what you think?
Here is an interesting article I stumbled across shortly after posting:
http://www.wgal.com/r/26370933/detail.html
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ItsZippy said:
I am with you in way. Freedom of speech should come with responsibility, you shouldn't be allowed to say offensive things that are purposely meant to hurt or offend someone and think that everything is ok because you have freedom of speech.
However I think it would be impossible to make it illegal.
Are you speaking morally or legally?
Not taking into account relativism in judgement, tax payer dollars being spent on enforcement, housing and convicting offenders, etc, you believe people should be prosecuting for speaking their mind in a manner that has a capacity to offend and let a judge sort out their intent?
In my opinion you SHOULD (and are) legally be allowed to speak your mind without fear of consequence (obviously as long as you are not making a blatent threat of harm) but morally I would think the majority of people would try to refrain from intentionally insulting others for no reason, this is life, not high school.
In fact, I am somewhat offended that you wish we were stripped of this vital right that our country was founded and based upon. Was that the purpose of your statement? Maybe you should be jailed or fined and forced to explain yourself in front of a judge...
Racism is a set of beliefs on how one group of people view another. The world has always flirted with racism. In modern times, last 400 years, the European or Western form of racism is what most people find deplorable and downright dispicable. Despite what happened in the past, I do think that racism as most Black peoples understand in relations to Whites is on the demise.
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So to those who support making racism illegal, do you support the rewriting of Mark Twain books with the n word in them?
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What's wrong with saying nîgger? Us homies say it all the time.OBAMA said:
Lolz nîgger is blocked as forbidden text, but nigga isn't. :lol:
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No~Mark Twains book was a classic, and it is his book and his words. It would be like if someone took the Harry Potters books and rewrote the books (after she's dead) because they say the B word in them. Besides, it's very disrespectful to change what someone said and their work that they worked hard on without their permission. And really, it's not like the word is/was directly aimed towards someone in particular that was real and living now, so I'm not sure why they would even get that idea into their head to rewrite it (changing other things also besides just changing the N-word to 'slave' and "Injun Joe" to "Indian Joe" and "half-breed" to "half-blood.").OBAMA said:
I think he should change Lovecraft's work too so for example in "The Rats in the Walls", his cat should be called blackula instead of "nîgger man".
I'm sure he won't mind it, and if he does well then run like hell from Cthulhu
I'm sure he won't mind it, and if he does well then run like hell from Cthulhu
Rewriting a book and modifying the original mode of expression is pretty much revisionism. Mark Twain's work gives us a good idea on the thought of 19th century post civil war America. So, no, his work should not be rewritten to accomodate certain people's sensitivities.
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