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I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
 
TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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We encourage you to leave honest, constructive feedback.

I am sure the forum owners who advertise in the PD would appreciate any feedback you can give them. 🙂
 
TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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Yes. We encourage people to leave feedback in the most constructive way as possible. Infact, we occasionally do hand out small gifts for those who consistently leave good feedback and even take such things to account when we hire for the PT as well as the RT.

I stress on the word 'constructive' beacause we do have certain few who really dont get the meaning of that word and step outside the line by leaving very blunt criticism that serves no useful purpose but to deter new webmasters.
 
I think you should leave constructive feedback if there is something really wrong with the forum/blog then PM the owner would be best
 
I imagine a lot of those empty feedback posts are simply a way to earn quick cash without having to actually do anything remotely meaningful. Another part of it is many really don't want what is actually constructive feedback because it oftentimes offends and makes people upset which is the fast track to getting a post removed even if it is perfectly valid, constructive and honest all because the one getting the comment makes a problem of it. A post's validity and worth isn't based around its content but how people react to it meaning perfectly valid constructive criticisms get trashed while comments such as nice board and the like litter the place all because no one makes an issue out of receiving such empty posts simply because they don't offend when they should be the post that offends people because they do nothing but waste perfectly good space. To post a criticism of someone on here is likely putting you at risk for warns and other punishments hence why you don't see any posted anywhere. The recipient can just close their eyes, make a stink and wait for a mod to remove it so the user is insulated from any sort of reality while the poster risks a punishment from doing something that could actually help someone so you discourage it from being done to anyone leading you to where we are now.

Seeing as there is no way to tell the crybaby from the one who might actually consider criticism means the guy who actually wants it doesn't get any because it is not worth taking the risk to give criticism to the guy who wants it because if he gives it to the one who doesn't want it will just cry a river and wait for a mod to drown the poor soul who thought offering criticism was welcome. This is an issue I found going on in many places so it's not a specific issue to this forum but forums in general.
 
Well I hope no problems arise from constructive feedback. I know personally I gain more from constructive feedback compared to "Nice forum". I just wanted to make sure I knew what the community thought before I posted on things.
 
Tends to happen. When worded not in the right way, what should be a good suggestion or criticism, can infact tick some people off. I know I have gotten mad a few times due to people suggesting things either too bluntly, or not in the best manner.
 
Sometimes recieving critique that is not worded entirely pleasant or infact just recieving criticism in general, can sometimes aggrivate people. When providing feedback, at the back of your mind, you always need to be keeping the focus of trying to help the user improve and develop and not put them off or put them down and this isn't always the case- Sometimes people put things too bluntly or rudely which can annoy a lot of people.
 
Not at all. Sakuga City had recieved some constructive critique on another site. I hadn't asked for any feedback actually. I was replying to the official thread for a mod we are using. Some guys took a look at our implentation of said mod and gave some feedback on it. I actually went and implemented those changes right away since they were things that we'd overlooked in testing. It was nice of them to actually test it out for us like that. I'm not one to get upset about that stuff, and I'm sure most admins who are serious about their respective sites feel the same.

There is no harm in giving someone constructive feedback that helps them. If someone can't accept that kind of feedback, they shouldn't be asking for a site review in the first place.

For example, someone saying "God, the layout looks fierce ugly" is not constructive and is unwanted. In fact, I'd think that the person might be looking the provoke the site owner. If you're going to suggest that someone's layout needs updating, you can do it in a much better manner.

I have seen some godawful layouts linked here on FP at times, but I don't say it, or hint it even. You just don't know how someone is going to take it, even if you put it nicely... AND that's because other people who don't really have a good eye for design have already told them that it's awesome. Perhaps they're only saying it for the postcount. That puts the webmaster on the defensive when someone has something constructive to say.

I'm a graphic designer, so I do tend to look at layouts with a much more critical eye. If they asked me for some advice, I'd give them advice on improving. I'd never tell them it's flat out awful, even if I thought that. You have to be tactful, and not be an ass about it. Pick out the good parts and emphasise those while suggesting changes for the not so good.

Sometimes if you have nothing at all nice to say though, it's best not to say anything at all.
 
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The problem is that most people have not mastered the art of giving specific, helpful feedback. When most people give "feedback" on a forum, even when it is well-intended, it usually comes across as inflammatory.

Here is an example:

Good feedback: "I think that the banner could be made smaller and you could use more of a unique approach on [X, Y, and Z]. Here's how you can make it more unique."
Bad feedback: "I hate to break it to you, but you're really never going to see any success with this project. Good luck, though."

Most people would consider the second statement constructive, but it doesn't give any specific feedback, making it a plain old rude comment. That is where the problem lies.
 
I give feedback. And am a little more blunt than I should be sadly, about just about anything, really. If someone has a problem with it, they can call an admin.

90% of the time though, there's just no benefit in giving someone feedback.
I've seen one person on here who completely lost their mind and started banning users on their site because they wanted signatures in their posts, but the admin wanted to make it a premium feature.

It was surreal, but just shows that I can't always expect rational reactions.
It's unbelievable that they destroyed their site over stupid signatures, but hey, what can I say.
 
TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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If you say anything beyond "Nice forum" and “Good luck,“ the staff here will delete your posts and accuse you of harassment.
 
I'm guessing the community reviews section provides better constructive feedback. People who post in PD basically are showcasing their site. Some never come back.
 
Gus said:
TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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If you say anything beyond "Nice forum" and “Good luck,“ the staff here will delete your posts and accuse you of harassment.
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That's not true. They will, however, delete your post if you say, "Your forum sucks and you're going to fail" because that's not constructive.
 
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TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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Great post! Good read!



No, I'm new and I noticed the same thing. There's a lot of quick cookie-cutter replies, and I imagine it's people just trying to earn more FP cash as mentioned by someone earlier in this topic.

I've only left a few reviews but I try and point out at least 1 or 2 things that I personally don't like/would change. There was only one website where I didn't see any need for improvement.

Even on my own site, I know there's a couple easy critiques that could be made, but everyone just says "looks good". Ya'll are too nice.
 
Princess MeowsePad said:
Gus said:
TaylorCTU GM said:
I was looking at a lot of the forums on the promotion area. Very few are well put together and all I see is "Nice forum" and "Good luck". Do people not want constructive feedback? Is saying anything honest that may not be positive considered rude? I'm not a vet of this forum so anyone who'd like feel free to explain.
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If you say anything beyond "Nice forum" and “Good luck,“ the staff here will delete your posts and accuse you of harassment.
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That's not true. They will, however, delete your post if you say, "Your forum sucks and you're going to fail" because that's not constructive.
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It is true, I’ve seen it happen and the comment wasn’t harsh at all.
 
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