Ron Paul or Mitt Romney?
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Watch Me Sink
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Name the five states. He didn't win five, even if you include Louisiana.jglover4168 said:
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f' yeah!Gimgak said:
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Ron Paul will be at Tampa.
Ron Paul has 6 states and it has been verified by the RNC. He'll be at Tampa. Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisana, Iowa. He MAY have the majority in Massachusetts and Colorado.
http://www.dailypaul.com/245043/ben...the-rnc-rules-committee-ron-paul-has-6-states
-- 22 Jul 2012, 17:27 --
another link.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rnc-con ... right-next<br /><br />-- 22 Jul 2012, 21:22 --<br /><br />this was suppose to be a reply in a similar thread I don't know why it made it a new topic...?
Watch Me Sink said:
Ron Paul has 6 states and it has been verified by the RNC. He'll be at Tampa. Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisana, Iowa. He MAY have the majority in Massachusetts and Colorado.
http://www.dailypaul.com/245043/ben...the-rnc-rules-committee-ron-paul-has-6-states
-- 22 Jul 2012, 17:27 --
another link.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rnc-con ... right-next<br /><br />-- 22 Jul 2012, 21:22 --<br /><br />this was suppose to be a reply in a similar thread I don't know why it made it a new topic...?
SheepishWolf
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Out of the two, I'd pick Ron Paul. Both are horrible, but Romney has no possible strategy to win, I believe that at least Ron Paul has some sort of a strategy, and holds more strongly to his beliefs - even if I do not agree with them (all). Obama would be the one I'd pick out of any of the candidates. I like the way he runs things, the fact that he's helping America past what segregation is left, usually doesn't allow his religion to seep into his politics, and the fact that he has a sense of humor.
Romney can't go after Obama on immigration (because he wants to get Hispanic voters), going after Obama on LGBT things would put him far behind because of how strongly so many Americans feel about that subject), healthcare (he passed his own version of the same legislation in Massachusetts - one that was even more liberal than Obamas, covering things like abortions. Obama-care doesn't do that. That act that divided Americans strongly. He wouldn't be able to be taken seriously on that), - even according to certain polls, he's even less likable than Obama. The only thing Romney has on any of the candidates is that he is strongly favoured on voters aged 65 and over. That may not seem like that big percent of the population, but it's a heavily voting group of the population.
Ron Paul isn't good either- the last I heard, he wanted to repeal the Civil Rights Act, was against public healthcare, he calls public education "socialist" (he says he wants to eliminate it completely), thinks global warming is fake , doesn't believe in evolution ("I think it’s a theory. The theory of evolution. And I don’t accept it as a theory."), is radically pro-life (or more importantly, is radically against womans right to choose. He even suggested that abortion should legally be considered the same thing as murder), he believes America is "waging war on Christians" (which is completely ridiculous for obvious reasons), and is against the Americans With Disabilities Act. But for some reason I'd choose him. Honestly, no matter which one we pick I think most of everything will stay the same. There will still be a "drug war", there will still be Middle East conflicts, first amendment problems, and so on. The only difference would be who is blamed for it.
But that's just my take on it.
Romney can't go after Obama on immigration (because he wants to get Hispanic voters), going after Obama on LGBT things would put him far behind because of how strongly so many Americans feel about that subject), healthcare (he passed his own version of the same legislation in Massachusetts - one that was even more liberal than Obamas, covering things like abortions. Obama-care doesn't do that. That act that divided Americans strongly. He wouldn't be able to be taken seriously on that), - even according to certain polls, he's even less likable than Obama. The only thing Romney has on any of the candidates is that he is strongly favoured on voters aged 65 and over. That may not seem like that big percent of the population, but it's a heavily voting group of the population.
Ron Paul isn't good either- the last I heard, he wanted to repeal the Civil Rights Act, was against public healthcare, he calls public education "socialist" (he says he wants to eliminate it completely), thinks global warming is fake , doesn't believe in evolution ("I think it’s a theory. The theory of evolution. And I don’t accept it as a theory."), is radically pro-life (or more importantly, is radically against womans right to choose. He even suggested that abortion should legally be considered the same thing as murder), he believes America is "waging war on Christians" (which is completely ridiculous for obvious reasons), and is against the Americans With Disabilities Act. But for some reason I'd choose him. Honestly, no matter which one we pick I think most of everything will stay the same. There will still be a "drug war", there will still be Middle East conflicts, first amendment problems, and so on. The only difference would be who is blamed for it.
But that's just my take on it.
D
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Many call Ron Paul a social libertarian, but I wouldn't even call him that. However, he's definitely a libertarian compared to Mitt Romney. Overall, we need someone like Stewart Alexander to put this country on the right path.
EDIT: Just checked out Jill Stein. I might vote for her instead. She'll probably get a higher percentage of the vote, and she seems a little more dedicated to social issues than Alexander.
EDIT: Just checked out Jill Stein. I might vote for her instead. She'll probably get a higher percentage of the vote, and she seems a little more dedicated to social issues than Alexander.
Watch Me Sink
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Try out http://www.isidewith.com/. But when you take the quiz look at all the answers (not just the yes or no ones). Surprisingly I had quite a few things in common with Mr. Alexander, but the ones about expanding government I didn't. His foreign policy is very similar to Gary Johnson/Ron Paul's.Snobothehobo said:
jglover4168
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I took the same quiz and was 94% Ron Paul
D
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Not surprisingly, I agreed with Jill Stein the most. I'm going to do it again because I didn't check out the alternative positions very much.Watch Me Sink said:
EDIT: I refined my positions, and I side with Alexander more now. I still think that Jill Stein has a deeper commitment to social issues, though. I now agree with Ron Paul on no major issues, and I agree with Mitt Romney on zero percent of the issues on that quiz. 😛
I'm close to Ron Paul on foreign policy, but he seems to support more 1920s style isolationism. I believe that non-violent means are acceptable, but we shouldn't be imperialistic as we have in the past.
SheepishWolf
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79% was Barack Obama, 76% was Jill Stein for me.
ATiRAGEPRO
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I would definitely vote for Paul over Romney.
NBK*Twitch
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Watch Me Sink said:
According to that site I should vote for Gary Johnson which I already planned to do. That thing is pretty accurate.
D
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I'm proud to have had absolutely nothing in common with Mitt. 😛
jglover4168
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Well said, all you have to do is vote Ron Paul and we can be friends haha.Snobothehobo said:
Watch Me Sink
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Do you realize that voting for Ron Paul (unless for some crazy reason he gets the GOP nomination) will do absolutely nothing? Voting for Gary Johnson will at least show more support for a third party and (hopefully) begin to end this two party mess.jglover4168 said:
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The United States is more of a one-party state than a two-party state. Barack Obama (who is essentially a mainstream Democrat) and Mitt Romney (who actually looks moderate next to the rest of the extreme-right Republican Party) are essentially the same person. People only think that Barack Obama is liberal because people in the USA think that supporting abortion and supporting a slightly higher tax rate (both of which are supported by most mainstream European conservatives) make you liberal.
Snobothehobo said:
You are spot on Snobo! This is why I have sworn, and make it publicly known that I will not vote for anyone with a D or an R next to their name, because it's all the same.
+repped you for that.
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