Should we allow better gun control?
- Thread starter Beetle King
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Anyone who honestly backs US gun control at this stage needs to ask themselves one thing:
How the hell are they gonna stop the trouble that's likely to ensue when a whole bunch of annoyed gun owners don't agree with your restrictions or banning?
Because my experience is, people tend not to like having less rights. And in this case, I suspect some of them will be pretty 'happy' to go out in a blaze of 'glory' regardless of the human costs.
That's not good for anyone.
How the hell are they gonna stop the trouble that's likely to ensue when a whole bunch of annoyed gun owners don't agree with your restrictions or banning?
Because my experience is, people tend not to like having less rights. And in this case, I suspect some of them will be pretty 'happy' to go out in a blaze of 'glory' regardless of the human costs.
That's not good for anyone.
CM30 said:
If the US was able to reduce firearm deaths over time down to the levels of New Zealand or Australia, it would be worth any short term pain that occurs. If people behaved responsibly we wouldn't need laws, they don't and we do.
Can you 'explain' that to the population or politicians though? Everyone knows how quickly news of a tragedy spreads...
There's also the fact that many pro gun advocates would see any such move as the government trying to become a dictatorship, which would bring a lot more paranoia and discontent, or possibly a revolution.
Personally, I don't see it as worth the risk.
There's also the fact that many pro gun advocates would see any such move as the government trying to become a dictatorship, which would bring a lot more paranoia and discontent, or possibly a revolution.
Personally, I don't see it as worth the risk.
Banning guns is obviously not the answer, but I don't understand why you wouldn't want stricter gun control.
Everybody quotes the constitution, but doesn't it say a "well regulated militia"?
Perhaps the answer is a compulsory weapons training course when you buy your gun. Pass a test on weapon handling, safety, storage etc
You have to take a test to drive a car, also a deadly weapon in inexperienced hands.
Everybody quotes the constitution, but doesn't it say a "well regulated militia"?
Perhaps the answer is a compulsory weapons training course when you buy your gun. Pass a test on weapon handling, safety, storage etc
You have to take a test to drive a car, also a deadly weapon in inexperienced hands.
Forces of Steel
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Give the mentally unstable easier access to better counselors and helpful medication to keep them from going absolutely bonkers.
The Governor
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Forces of Steel said:
The thing is, not all of these people are mentally unstable or have mental issues. There have been cases where people considered normal mentally went out and did something crazy. The only way to explain it is that they snapped.
Forces of Steel
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That last part is true, but I still maintain that many people gradually come to this conclusion; it takes months or even years of planning their "exit" from this world. It must be that depressing to be in their shoes.The Governor said:
Bluezone777
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People don't just "snap" as it is a built up process that is mostly internal for those who appear to just "snap". Some express their anger externally so you can see the build up easily and it's easier to help those people because we can see the problem. With those who build up anger internally are harder to help as it's harder to see the problem because of how well hidden it is.
I think the same thing can be said about depression as well which is why seem so happy right up to they end their life while others are very vocal about their interest in pursuing death before they finally do it. I think our problem is we need to better understand mental health and start treating it as an actual problem then we do. Those who just use guns to commit crime for money will simply adapt to any law passed far easily then those who are law abiding so it only hinders the law abiding to defend themselves while not doing anything for the lawless. Gun control is simply not the answer though that doesn't mean there isn't a problem but we need to change the way we think about the issue of violence if we want to actually do anything to solve it.
I think the same thing can be said about depression as well which is why seem so happy right up to they end their life while others are very vocal about their interest in pursuing death before they finally do it. I think our problem is we need to better understand mental health and start treating it as an actual problem then we do. Those who just use guns to commit crime for money will simply adapt to any law passed far easily then those who are law abiding so it only hinders the law abiding to defend themselves while not doing anything for the lawless. Gun control is simply not the answer though that doesn't mean there isn't a problem but we need to change the way we think about the issue of violence if we want to actually do anything to solve it.
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Beetle King said:
Here are my thoughts on this. (Please, excuse me. I'm not trying to sound like a butthole in this post. I'm only trying to present my point on the matter.)
Criminals don't abide by the laws we have now. What makes anyone think they're going to obey any future laws or even a gun ban? Criminals are able to buy guns off the black market and anywhere else that'll sell to them. Unless you can find a way to get rid of the black market and other similar things, you won't be able to make a gun ban effective. That's why the gun ban will only punish the law-abiding citizens who have no intention of hurting anybody and do nothing to stop the criminals and the crazies who are the cause of the problem. So essentially, a gun ban will just make the law-abiding citizens a bunch of victims to the criminals because they are not allowed to own a firearm themselves. Therefore, you're not fixing the problem and you're only creating another problem that you'd have to deal with.
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Bazinga! said:
Finally, someone with sense. A criminal is a criminal. There are millions and millions of law abiding citizens that own guns. The penalties for crimes need to be jacked up, if anything. Some states give less than 10 years for murder...
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