Soda in schools?

Soda in schools?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • No

    Votes: 10 40.0%
  • Yes but.....

    Votes: 2 8.0%

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Soda drinking was allowed in school during noon hour. We were adjoining schools with a new elementary one that was put up, and if you wanted hot lunch, you went to the elementary cafeteria. Soda was, most understandably, barred from the elementary cafeteria, because even at our lunch time, there were still elementary students running around, and obviously if they saw us older kids drinking soda, they would get the idea in their head that soda is okay in school, which its not at the elementary level except for special occasions where it would be allowed in the classroom. So if you wanted to have soda with your noon meal, you had to have your lunch in the HS cafeteria so that little kids wouldn't get jealous and try to swipe your soda from you, which, again, is highly understandable. I don't think such a rule would work, though, no matter how you laid it out, because as Black Angel said, these same kids are probably pop open a can of soda right when they get home from school anyway, so really, what's the point?
 
It's quite ridiculous. However they put diet, which is really not significantly healthier. "Diet" is just a marketing scam.
 
Carson said:
It's quite ridiculous. However they put diet, which is really not significantly healthier. "Diet" is just a marketing scam.

That's how the high school I went to was. They started off offering regular soda, but by the end of my junior year (I think) they started offering all diet soda. Which sucked because the only kinds of diet soda I actually liked were Diet Mountain Dew and I sort of liked Diet orange Sunkist. But that was it, though.
 
ManSkirtDude101 said:
Gimgak said:
Volux said:
Our school policy is water only in a clear container..so stupid IMO.
You could still drink vodka though so it's not all bad
you try that :roll:
Now why would I do that? My school allows soda. I'm simply showing Volux a way to fight back against his school's policy, we don't need no education, you gotta fight for your right, and all that jazz.
 
The government banning flavored milk and soda from schools to make kids eat healthier is much like putting a towel over a spill and saying it's clean. If they really want kids to eat better then they need to illustrate why they would want to bother with eating better by removing the desire to eat unhealthy food. Unfortunately, all that requires logic and common sense which is too much to ask for when it comes to school administrators and government officials.
 
Bluezone777 said:
The government banning flavored milk and soda from schools to make kids eat healthier is much like putting a towel over a spill and saying it's clean. If they really want kids to eat better then they need to illustrate why they would want to bother with eating better by removing the desire to eat unhealthy food. Unfortunately, all that requires logic and common sense which is too much to ask for when it comes to school administrators and government officials.
Agree and besides isn't it some parents fault that they let there kids eat bad food for lunch and other times. Well not all the time....
 
Bluezone777 said:
The government banning flavored milk and soda from schools to make kids eat healthier is much like putting a towel over a spill and saying it's clean. If they really want kids to eat better then they need to illustrate why they would want to bother with eating better by removing the desire to eat unhealthy food. Unfortunately, all that requires logic and common sense which is too much to ask for when it comes to school administrators and government officials.

Banning flavored milk? What? Never heard of that one before. We've always gotten to choose between regular milk and chocolate milk. I never really cared for regular milk, so I always went for chocolate. But that sounds even more stupid than the banning the soda. I mean, heck, I'm sure even flavored milk is good for you, and some kids even like flavored milk over plain milk, and that shouldn't be a problem, as long as they're getting the stuff they need, then it's fine.
 
Mass is a bit too PC at times, that's my one complaint with the state, as well as being a bit untrusting of outsiders.
That being said, here in florida I hear teachers say things that would be downright illegal for them to say in MA, funny contrast.
 
Kids are only in school for like 7 hours a day. That leaves like 17 hours left in the day to drink all the soda they want. If its banned, is it really that big of a deal?

It makes the schools look like they are trying to help solve a problem.
Do they care about making a difference? Probably not...
Do they care if they look like they are trying to make a difference? Yes
 
Ashley said:
Bluezone777 said:
The government banning flavored milk and soda from schools to make kids eat healthier is much like putting a towel over a spill and saying it's clean. If they really want kids to eat better then they need to illustrate why they would want to bother with eating better by removing the desire to eat unhealthy food. Unfortunately, all that requires logic and common sense which is too much to ask for when it comes to school administrators and government officials.

Banning flavored milk? What? Never heard of that one before. We've always gotten to choose between regular milk and chocolate milk. I never really cared for regular milk, so I always went for chocolate. But that sounds even more stupid than the banning the soda. I mean, heck, I'm sure even flavored milk is good for you, and some kids even like flavored milk over plain milk, and that shouldn't be a problem, as long as they're getting the stuff they need, then it's fine.

I've heard of it happening, and it is much worse than that, with schools going as far as banning birthday parties (i.e. the classroom ones with cupcakes and pizza) and pizza parties in schools (like the ones that took place on the last day of school.) My mom said that some schools in Suffolk County have even banned parents from bring cupcakes from home, and are considering banning lunch being brought from home as well.


ManSkirtDude101 said:
Agree and besides isn't it some parents fault that they let there kids eat bad food for lunch and other times. Well not all the time....

Not necessarily, it is a crapshoot because sometimes a parent can do everything right and still, turn out having a kid with undesired results, case in point, teen pregnancy.

Many parents are strongly against this, even if, they themselves had ended up in this position and had a nightmare of a time raising their kid as a result. Furthermore, you have a lot of single and married parents, who busted their behind to make sure that their kids had everything they needed, and yet, that kid still could turn out doing the wrong thing.

In my neighborhood, a lot of the mothers work hard to make sure that their kids are taken care of, and they try to teach their kid to do the right thing, but that doesn't keep that kid from selling their ass on the street corner, selling or doing drugs, joining gangs, or screwing every Tom, Dick, Harry, Jerry, Paul and Tyrone and/or committing crimes.

Yes, having a firm hand might work, but it is not a guarantee. My mother and great-grandmother raised me with a firm hand, not because I was a bad kid, but because they knew that I was smart and would listen to them. They didn't want me becoming like the other kids in the neighborhood, and I didn't.

I've grown up with girls whose parents were just as firm, and taught the same values, and in turn, their kid rebelled and ended up doing the polar opposite. When the mother tried to teach their kid the importance of keeping your legs closed and waiting until having sex, the kid responding by screwing the entire neighborhood, including, her mother's second husband, in other words, her step-father, and in her own bed, no less. I know mothers who've lost their own husbands, sisters and brothers due to a life of crime, drugs and gangs, and despite educating their kids against this lifestyle, their kids end up doing the same exact thing.

It is similar to what I've said in my previous post, the kids in my school were smart, they learned from the experiences of others, and decided for themselves, that being a 500-lb kid who was constantly targeted, was NOT what they wanted, and then made healthier choices along the way to avoid that. Those who were targeted because of their weight, eventually decided that they were tired of being picked on, and they wanted to be normal, and they did something about it.

I agree with BZ, and I maintain, that these kids won't learn anything if they are just told "No." All it will do is lead to extreme rebellion, and eventually, the least desired outcome will be the result. The kids need to be educated at home as much as possible, and then be given the opportunity to decide for themselves, which kind of life they'd want to live. Should they decide to choose the wrong thing, then sure enough, there will be consequences, and that, only provides yet another opportunity for them to learn from it. The bright side is that they'll at least have first-hand experience, to go along with advice and second-hand experience from the observation of others.

That said, you can't always blame the parent's either.. You can only blame them if and only if, they were the over-indulgent type and couldn't say no, (which is a habit that starts when the child is very young and learned that they can get their own way by crying) and/or they did not try to educate their child from the get-go. Otherwise, if the parent has done everything they possibly could, then fault lies with the child and them alone.
 
Black Angel said:
Ashley said:
Bluezone777 said:
The government banning flavored milk and soda from schools to make kids eat healthier is much like putting a towel over a spill and saying it's clean. If they really want kids to eat better then they need to illustrate why they would want to bother with eating better by removing the desire to eat unhealthy food. Unfortunately, all that requires logic and common sense which is too much to ask for when it comes to school administrators and government officials.

Banning flavored milk? What? Never heard of that one before. We've always gotten to choose between regular milk and chocolate milk. I never really cared for regular milk, so I always went for chocolate. But that sounds even more stupid than the banning the soda. I mean, heck, I'm sure even flavored milk is good for you, and some kids even like flavored milk over plain milk, and that shouldn't be a problem, as long as they're getting the stuff they need, then it's fine.

I've heard of it happening, and it is much worse than that, with schools going as far as banning birthday parties (i.e. the classroom ones with cupcakes and pizza) and pizza parties in schools (like the ones that took place on the last day of school.) My mom said that some schools in Suffolk County have even banned parents from bring cupcakes from home, and are considering banning lunch being brought from home as well.


ManSkirtDude101 said:
Agree and besides isn't it some parents fault that they let there kids eat bad food for lunch and other times. Well not all the time....

Not necessarily, it is a crapshoot because sometimes a parent can do everything right and still, turn out having a kid with undesired results, case in point, teen pregnancy.

Many parents are strongly against this, even if, they themselves had ended up in this position and had a nightmare of a time raising their kid as a result. Furthermore, you have a lot of single and married parents, who busted their behind to make sure that their kids had everything they needed, and yet, that kid still could turn out doing the wrong thing.

In my neighborhood, a lot of the mothers work hard to make sure that their kids are taken care of, and they try to teach their kid to do the right thing, but that doesn't keep that kid from selling their ass on the street corner, selling or doing drugs, joining gangs, or screwing every Tom, Dick, Harry, Jerry, Paul and Tyrone and/or committing crimes.

Yes, having a firm hand might work, but it is not a guarantee. My mother and great-grandmother raised me with a firm hand, not because I was a bad kid, but because they knew that I was smart and would listen to them. They didn't want me becoming like the other kids in the neighborhood, and I didn't.

I've grown up with girls whose parents were just as firm, and taught the same values, and in turn, their kid rebelled and ended up doing the polar opposite. When the mother tried to teach their kid the importance of keeping your legs closed and waiting until having sex, the kid responding by screwing the entire neighborhood, including, her mother's second husband, in other words, her step-father, and in her own bed, no less. I know mothers who've lost their own husbands, sisters and brothers due to a life of crime, drugs and gangs, and despite educating their kids against this lifestyle, their kids end up doing the same exact thing.

It is similar to what I've said in my previous post, the kids in my school were smart, they learned from the experiences of others, and decided for themselves, that being a 500-lb kid who was constantly targeted, was NOT what they wanted, and then made healthier choices along the way to avoid that. Those who were targeted because of their weight, eventually decided that they were tired of being picked on, and they wanted to be normal, and they did something about it.

I agree with BZ, and I maintain, that these kids won't learn anything if they are just told "No." All it will do is lead to extreme rebellion, and eventually, the least desired outcome will be the result. The kids need to be educated at home as much as possible, and then be given the opportunity to decide for themselves, which kind of life they'd want to live. Should they decide to choose the wrong thing, then sure enough, there will be consequences, and that, only provides yet another opportunity for them to learn from it. The bright side is that they'll at least have first-hand experience, to go along with advice and second-hand experience from the observation of others.

That said, you can't always blame the parent's either.. You can only blame them if and only if, they were the over-indulgent type and couldn't say no, (which is a habit that starts when the child is very young and learned that they can get their own way by crying) and/or they did not try to educate their child from the get-go. Otherwise, if the parent has done everything they possibly could, then fault lies with the child and them alone.
Great speech there.
 
Yes, it shouldn't really matter tbh. 😛 Just pop (I call it pop, live in Michigan where every one calls it that). 😛
 
Forever-Anime said:
Yes, it shouldn't really matter tbh. 😛 Just pop (I call it pop, live in Michigan where every one calls it that). 😛
I'm a Northerner as well, so I usually call it pop. 😛
 
I don't think it should be allowed, because one it is really bad for your teeth, two they put like two tablespoons of sugar into each can. This increases obesity and I have to feel sorry for the poor parents who have to pay a lot of money for the dentist, it should be a treat not an everyday drink.
 
Kids can get them out of school so it shouldn't matter if they get them in school to. End of discussion.
 
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