vBulletin vs. XenForo

Nebulous

Hakuna Matata
Joined
Oct 12, 2007
Messages
10,974
Reaction score
1,260
FP$
505
Article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/04 ... oro_again/
Internet forumware giant vBulletin has filed a second lawsuit against its former lead developer, who recently launched his own forum platform with the UK-based startup XenForo. With the new suit, vBulletin claims copyright infringement, breach of contract, and misappropriation of trade secrets.

XenForo and its lead developer, ex-vBulletin man Kier Darby, deny both suits in their entirety and "expects the claims to be defeated."

Last month, just before the XenForo beta was set to go on sale, vBulletin and its parent company, Internet Brands, filed suit in the UK against XenForo and three former vBulletin employees: former vBulletin lead developer and product manager Darby; Mike Sullivan, another former developer; and former business manager Ashley Busby. Now, vBulletin has filed a similar suit in California that names XenForo and Darby.

The new suit claims "widespread infringement and unlawful exploitation" of vBulletin's copyrighted software and "equally damaging misappropriation of trade secrets" developed by vBulletin and its related companies "through investments of millions of dollars over the last ten years." It alleges that before he left vBulletin, Darby "increased his access" to the company's confidential information and refused to return it when he resigned. Because of this and other reasons, the suit says, Darby breached his contract with vBulletin.

When they left the company, the suit alleges, Darby and Sullivan "took with them virtually every type of document a competitor would need to enter the market and unlawfully create a competing bulletin board software program." vBulletin did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but it has previously discussed the first suit with The Reg, denying that the suit was timed to coincide with the launch of the XenForo beta.

After the California suit was filed, XenForo posted a message to its website alerting users. "We deny these claims in their entirety, and have strong evidence to support our position," Darby wrote. "We will defend our position, and expect the claims to be defeated."

Darby, Sullivan, and Busby split with vBulletin in 2009, roughly two years after Internet Brands acquired the forum-software company, which runs online communities on 40,000 sites across the web. A year after they left the company, the trio registered the XenForo domain.

In the past, Darby has said that the XenForo platform was built "from scratch" using the Zend PHP framework. After the first suit was filed, vBulletin sent a letter to XenForo requesting it halt the release of its product — "it isn't a legal request per se," vBulletin told us — and XenForo ignored the request, launching its platform after only a slight delay.

Found blog post on this topic as well: http://vbtruth.com/vbulletin-v-xenforo-case-2/320/

What are your opinions on all this drama?
 
Its funny how vBulletin filed the lawsuit a day before it was released, so that tells you its just pure bul, how the hell would they get hold of the software and try it when it wasnt even released. Thats all I have to say. I have a xenForo license, and I have used vB, and after using xenForo I can tell you it is nothing like vBulletin.
 
IB are just treating their new competition with fierce legal action to try and stop the small company from becoming as big as them or even bigger, hence the whole law suits. But who knows, if this lawsuit is true then Darby and Xenforo will both most likely be broke 😛
 
I'm beginning to feel that vBulletin increases the fame of xenforo by this.

If this issue was not arised, the xenforo won't have got so much exposure. I guess they got free advertising. Lol.
 
vBulletin lost when they were first bought by IB. If I was James, the original owner of vBulletin, I would have stuck that offer up IB's katoot. It was a very BAD move, vBulletin is DEAD to me.

Sorry for my harsh point of view, but seriously, HORRIBLE I SAY.
 
vBulletin is afraid of losing all costumers. XenForo doesn't look good in my opinion but many people have already started using it.
 
kavin said:
I'm beginning to feel that vBulletin increases the fame of xenforo by this.

If this issue was not arised, the xenforo won't have got so much exposure. I guess they got free advertising. Lol.

Actually this is very true, if you have a look at the announcement on the vB's official forum: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthre ... st-Xenforo

It has got 17,313 views in just over a month, whereas a thread posted in the same category: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthre ... nouncement

Has only got 4,291 views which was posted just over 2 months ago, compare the differences 😉
 
Is there a link to XenForo's site? I saw one that goes to an open index and one to a dead end forum.
 
Terrorz said:
http://xenforo.com/

My site in my sig uses xF
Ah thank you 🙂

To be honest, now that I see it, it looks A LOT like VB. They have done a great job organizing it and launching the software, but I can see why VB would be bringing this up.
 
If you were to use it you would feel and see the differences. All forums look alike... they are all the same *A Forum*. They all will look similar no matter what.
 
Santa said:
Terrorz said:
http://xenforo.com/

My site in my sig uses xF
Ah thank you 🙂

To be honest, now that I see it, it looks A LOT like VB. They have done a great job organizing it and launching the software, but I can see why VB would be bringing this up.

And MyBB looks A LOT like vB too, why haven't IB tried suing MyBB? :roll:
 
Nathan said:
Santa said:
Terrorz said:
http://xenforo.com/

My site in my sig uses xF
Ah thank you 🙂

To be honest, now that I see it, it looks A LOT like VB. They have done a great job organizing it and launching the software, but I can see why VB would be bringing this up.

And MyBB looks A LOT like vB too, why haven't IB tried suing MyBB? :roll:
Because they are already suing XenForo :lol:
 
I dont think vB is really looking at the outward appearance, they are talking about the coding and behind the scenes stuff that makes the software actually function and run.

I dont really have extensive knowledge in software coding so I cant really say if its similar or not.
 
Santa said:
Nathan said:
Santa said:
Terrorz said:
http://xenforo.com/

My site in my sig uses xF
Ah thank you 🙂

To be honest, now that I see it, it looks A LOT like VB. They have done a great job organizing it and launching the software, but I can see why VB would be bringing this up.

And MyBB looks A LOT like vB too, why haven't IB tried suing MyBB? :roll:
Because they are already suing XenForo :lol:

Yeah cause IB are a bunch of douche bags :lol:

MrJohn said:
lol MyBB is nothing like VB, that is why.

Lol MyBB is like the free vB clone, might not be coding wise but in terms of looks and features it is 😉
 
theezy said:
Funny how this thread has nothing to do with mybb at all. 😛

That's true but the MyBB part is actually ontopic with the other comments, it's not like someone has said "MyBB rocks" :great:
 
vB are on the way out now with 4, its a while b4 all the older vb 3 users move to something else but the developers are moving as will the users, vb know it as well there support staff are becoming snappy
 
Back
Top Bottom