Vegetarians vs Meat Eaters

[Nebulous]

Is it wrong to eat meat?

Who is right? Why?

 

[Pixel Pirate]

Its perfectly normal to eat meat. Meat contains amino acids that are necessary to perform normal...without them you would be screwed...the way of getting the meat is a different debate though.

 

[katy perry is hot]

Its perfectly normal to eat meat. Meat contains amino acids that are necessary to perform normal...without them you would be screwed...the way of getting the meat is a different debate though.

That's not entirely true. Vegetarians and Vegans survive without meet by taking supplements. That doesn't mean I'm one of them though. I eat meat and vegetables. Meat is very nutritional and has the protein you need, but that doesn't mean you'll die without it.
The human civilizations have been eating meat for thousands of years. It's how we are. Not going to change because some stupid activists are running around telling me to.

 

[FrightSite]

You don't need to take supplements to survive on a vegan or vegetarian diet. We've been causing war, doing rape, murdering for years, does that make it justifiable?

Also, not all human civilisations eat meat, there are many that have been vegan or vegetarian for thousands of years due to religion, location, etc.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

You don't need to take supplements to survive on a vegan or vegetarian diet.

True, however a complete vegetarian needs some source of protein and calcium, so gets it somewhere. You can't just eat vegetables your whole life and survive.

 

[FrightSite]

You don't need to take supplements to survive on a vegan or vegetarian diet.

True, however a complete vegetarian needs some source of protein and calcium, so gets it somewhere. You can't just eat vegetables your whole life and survive.

Animal products aren't the only source of protein and calcium. Vegetables, fruit, nuts, pulses etc are sources of protein and calcium. So yes, you can live on a vegetable, fruit etc diet your whole life and survive. If it weren't so we would not have life long vegans existing healthily.

 

[Rich Edmonds]

I enjoy meat, I like eating nice, medium rare steak and wont change for anything. I can't see how it's wrong, I'm eating to survive. Most animals do exactly the same thing, do you have lions having a good ol' chin wag about being a vegetarian? I don't have a problem with people who don't eat meat, but when they start saying that eating meat is wrong and I shouldn't do it, I start to get slightly frustrated.

 

[FrightSite]

I enjoy meat, I like eating nice, medium rare steak and wont change for anything. I can't see how it's wrong, I'm eating to survive. Most animals do exactly the same thing, do you have lions having a good ol' chin wag about being a vegetarian? I don't have a problem with people who don't eat meat, but when they start saying that eating meat is wrong and I shouldn't do it, I start to get slightly frustrated.

You confuse the lions need for survival with your mere want for the taste. The majority of humans eat for the taste of meat. They don't eat it for survival, whereas the lion does.

Lots of animals are herbivorous. So I can say exactly the same as you and say we should be too. Some animals also kill their young, shall we do that too? Never look to nature to excuse your own inconsistent habits.

Also you can get meat substitutes that taste just as nice.

 

[FrightSite]

I'm sure your body loves your lack of ability to have compassion for those that cannot defend themselves. Your cholesterol lvls will be screaming.

The fact you take your time out to mention a meat of a high degree of cruelty shows the sort of person you truly are. I feel sorry for you.

 

[Midnight]

I enjoy meat, I like eating nice, medium rare steak and wont change for anything. I can't see how it's wrong, I'm eating to survive. Most animals do exactly the same thing, do you have lions having a good ol' chin wag about being a vegetarian? I don't have a problem with people who don't eat meat, but when they start saying that eating meat is wrong and I shouldn't do it, I start to get slightly frustrated.

I totally agree

 

[FrightSite]

You can't agree with something that isn't even true *sigh*

So little common sense among meat eaters.

People should watch this then say whether they'll still eat meat or not.

 

[Rich Edmonds]

So my opinion isn't true? I think that vegetarian burger is going to your head. I said I like the taste of steak. I eat meat to live, if I don't eat then I'll begin to have some serious problems correct? So actually, we have a lot of common sense, you just misread my post 🙂

 

[Mike]

I'm a meat eater, and I don't think i'm going to change any time soon. I agree with a few people in this thread when I say that the ways in which we get the meat could be a lot more humane.

Although I've never seen this on the shelves in a british supermarket, in the local supermarket where I live in France, you can buy fresh horse meat, I hate the thought, it's the same with rabbit etc, i just can't eat it.

 

[Watch Me Sink]

I'm sure your body loves your lack of ability to have compassion for those that cannot defend themselves. Your cholesterol lvls will be screaming.

The fact you take your time out to mention a meat of a high degree of cruelty shows the sort of person you truly are. I feel sorry for you.

My body loves me and I love it back. Cholesterol is healthy in moderation, and one's body needs a little cholestrol.

By any chance do you happen to be a member of PETA?
And what is your opinion on in vitro meat?

 

[cityStatic]

Eating meat is perfectly healthy and normal. We have been doing it for milennia and has anything terrible happened to the ecosystem? Ants and such eat grass. Rabbits eat ants. Bears eat rabbits. We eat bears. (I just made this up, not really true.) If the population of an animal in a food chain gets too high, they eat more of the thing lower than them. IF that happens, the animals reproduce quickly (like rabbits) and the hypothetical bears can't eat all the rabbits, so the rabbits keep eating the ants until there aren't any left, then they just die and you have a lot of dead animals on your hands.

 

[Oaerkae]

Eating meat is perfectly healthy and normal. We have been doing it for milennia and has anything terrible happened to the ecosystem? Ants and such eat grass. Rabbits eat ants. Bears eat rabbits. We eat bears. (I just made this up, not really true.) If the population of an animal in a food chain gets too high, they eat more of the thing lower than them. IF that happens, the animals reproduce quickly (like rabbits) and the hypothetical bears can't eat all the rabbits, so the rabbits keep eating the ants until there aren't any left, then they just die and you have a lot of dead animals on your hands.

You're talking about the ecosystem... Well honestly, we've done a lot of harm to the ecosystem because of our killing. For example: sharks are endangered because people have over-hunted them for their fins, for a soup. Countless other animals are endangered because our meat cravings.

Do I think eating meat is wrong, yes. I am a vegetarian, I will never change that. Do I think everyone else shouldn't eat meat, yes, but... not really because I think it's wrong, but because of the way meat is these days.

Meat is so processed, so filled with steroids and antibodies, that they are sickly, and physically perverted.

Even the meat that is said to be "whole, and raised healthily", is still unhealthy for our bodies, just because of what small farmers, and big produce corporations alike put in their meat.
If you really don't care about what is put in your body, well, then there really isn't anything I'd say to you about it. I'm not gonna be a prick about it to anyone, even if I think it's wrong.

Although I will say, examine what you eat, you may change your mind even if you've always thought you wouldn't.

 

[FrightSite]

Eating meat is perfectly healthy and normal. We have been doing it for milennia and has anything terrible happened to the ecosystem? Ants and such eat grass. Rabbits eat ants. Bears eat rabbits. We eat bears. (I just made this up, not really true.) If the population of an animal in a food chain gets too high, they eat more of the thing lower than them. IF that happens, the animals reproduce quickly (like rabbits) and the hypothetical bears can't eat all the rabbits, so the rabbits keep eating the ants until there aren't any left, then they just die and you have a lot of dead animals on your hands.

If you're gonna attempt to justify your actions at least know what you're talking about.

Rabbits don't eat ants. Rabbits are herbivorous. Jeez, did they not teach you basic animal biology in school?

Also, as already said. We've been raping, murdering, committing war for millenia, does that justify it? We've been subjugating women and coloured for millenia too (only in the last 100 years has it changed in SOME countries - others are still behind on equal rights), does that justify it?

You clearly don't know much about the FOOD WEB. It is balanced where humans have not interfered. When a predator gets low in numbers NATURALLY (not due to stupid humans hunting) it's likely due to lack of food (PREY) or a natural disaster. If there is ever a chance where the prey overpopulates naturally then it's merely the animals doing what instinct tells them to do - carry on the species. The prey animal doesn't know if the predators have declined or not. Also, if any prey animal die without predation, they'll just be carrion for scavengers. So no, lots of dead animals will be nowhere, because it's a food web; lots of animals will eat the same prey. Just as lots of herbivores will eat the same plants.

We ourselves breed animals in ridiculous amounts to feed our faces with because we're greedy. That has nothing to do with chain or web because the animals we eat don't naturally occur. They are inbred grosse genetically modified replicas of their wild counterparts.

Also, eating meat used to be a rarity as it was for rich people only...so it's not 'normal', it's what you've been taught is normal. And it's far from healthy. It raises your risks to heart disease, various forms of cancer (it has carcinogens in) and various other ailments.

 

[Rich Edmonds]

We ourselves breed animals in ridiculous amounts to feed our faces with because we're greedy.

That's a bit much, more to do with supply and demand. The demand is higher so the supply needs to be, the population is multiplying like an out of control virus so there needs to be more meat to go around.

 

[Mike]

Eating meat is perfectly healthy and normal. We have been doing it for milennia and has anything terrible happened to the ecosystem? Ants and such eat grass. Rabbits eat ants. Bears eat rabbits. We eat bears. (I just made this up, not really true.)

If you're gonna attempt to justify your actions at least know what you're talking about.

Rabbits don't eat ants. Rabbits are herbivorous. Jeez, did they not teach you basic animal biology in school?

If your going to attempt to debate against other people's opinions, at least read their posts first :roll:

 

[FrightSite]

He made up a hypothetical situation. It doesn't insinuate he doesn't know what rabbits eat. So kindly follow your own preachings and read first. Also, a quick note on how to administrate a forum. Don't be smarmy towards your members.

Traygon, there doesn't need to be more meat going around, it's because people WANT it. It's not a need, and never will be.