Web Host - They keep poping up left and right

[Hitakashi]

That seems fun >_>

@David, I think that was just because our old old reseller host blamed us for their VPS providers scam.

I noticed that too with chris and lee's host, they are new (under a year I THINK (sorry if I'm wrong) but they have a steady income to fund their hosting. Some hosts will go under just because they don't have the funds to run them.

You have to have at least the money to pay for months in advanced (not paying yearly) minimum 300 or 400 dollars not some free reseller hosting.

 

[about lee]

I was actually hosting in private since August for close friends. But i went full scale in October, And i made about £20 profit for December so that's 4 months paying out my own pocket. But im going steady with no downtime for 6months!

But i think the only down fall here is i don't think users are advertising else where. Advertising here and a few other forums will not work for a host. I would go into detail about how i advertise but i wont to many copy cats :lol:

This was soooo not a plug :lol:

 

[spyka]

Some of them are laughable, mainly the people hoping to make a hosting company by uisng a $25/month 50GB reseller account.

As I said in the other thread, the time to start a hosting company was 10 years ago. Hosts like Bluehost and Dreamhost and now very well established with 10+ years in the business and their own huge datacenters, that they can charge very little for loads of space.

Some of the prices are just ridiculously high for shared hosting too. I host a number of pretty big websites on one host for just $9 a month with unmetered space, bandwidth, domains, free domain regsitration for life, unlimited databases of uncapped size, etc. And there are some people wanting that same amount for just a few GBs of space and 10 databases or something silly.

 

[USHost247]

Some of them are laughable, mainly the people hoping to make a hosting company by uisng a $25/month 50GB reseller account.

As I said in the other thread, the time to start a hosting company was 10 years ago. Hosts like Bluehost and Dreamhost and now very well established with 10+ years in the business and their own huge datacenters, that they can charge very little for loads of space.

Some of the prices are just ridiculously high for shared hosting too. I host a number of pretty big websites on one host for just $9 a month with unmetered space, bandwidth, domains, free domain regsitration for life, unlimited databases of uncapped size, etc. And there are some people wanting that same amount for just a few GBs of space and 10 databases or something silly.

You must take into consideration that these OLD hosts did not give out that much space for that cheap soon as they started out. No new host is going to buy a dedicated server or build their own datacenters the same week or month they start their host. All hosts start the same and build up. They are now able to provide those packages because they built up to that point. So it's not really "silly" if you think about it. They started the same way and offered probably the same packages just like any new web host.

 

[spyka]

All hosts didn't start the same at all, otherwise you have a chicken and the egg paradox: Where did the first web hosts get their web hosting from if they didn't build their own datacenters?

I'll tell you one thing for sure, Dreamhost sure as hell didn't start on a 50GB a month reseller plan from a shared host. Yes they're prices would've been a lot dearer when they started, but that was 10+ years ago before most people even knew of the internet. The other thing was that you didn't need 100GBs of space to host a website (no video, flash, few graphics, etc) so one server with a 10GB harddrive may well have been enough to start you off.

As my sums on the [CLOSED] thread show, some of these new web hosts have not even worked out their finances as they're only ever going to be making $50-$100 a month in revenue (not profit!) from their reseller plans, which is no where near enough to grow.

-- Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:12 am --

A few more comments on this based on some of the newer threads:

- Why is all these hosts are using the same, very cheap templates? A host which doesn't have someone that can write HTML/CSS or can't afford to pay someone to do it for them seems very risky to me.

- Without naming any names, the amount of stupid and basic questions being asked by these "hosting owners" is worrying. If you can't handle basic Javascript, then what's going to happen if I ask you a question about your server's CGI setup for example? You're not going to have a clue

- The legal side of matters... if you're going to offer a guarantee make sure you can actually meet it. Also, some of the TOS/AUPs i've read are hilariously bad and completely impossible to implement. Stuff along the lines of "If you're rude we can take your money"