Well, it passed

Cosmic said:
Yamiyo said:
Dragoth said:
yeah in that to who ever doesn't have health care gets a 700 dollar fine
In 2014, but keep not actually paying attention to everything else this bill has to offer, like free health care for poor adults, and Dependants can stay on the adult's health care plan until 26. :great:
What is this "free" you speak of? You can only spend other peoples' money so long ebfore it runs out, after all. Someone has to pay for it.
China can deal with it. Then when they get fed up with it they'll enslave us capitalistic dogs and American productivity will skyrocket 😛.
 
There's nothing better to slow productivity more than communism.... but the Chinese on the other hand... they have guns. 😛.

*Hides under the nearest bed*
 
Irviding said:
Don't care much. The bill is a piece of **** that isn't doing anything. Where is the public option?
Trust me, my friend, the public option comes two or so years down the road after the health care industry collapses. Once the bill has driven private insurance into the ground, someone will come up and say "we need a public option". 😛
 
Liberals supported the war too. Check that graph again at the end of Obama's term. 🙂
 
agentmanningctu said:
Public option is an illusion. This is America, the land of bull **** liberals.
I'd like to keep my allusion please. It's rather nice pretending that I don't have to live with someone like Putin- ahem whoever the hell the "president" of Russia is these days.
Cosmic said:
There's nothing better to slow productivity more than communism.... but the Chinese on the other hand... they have guns. 😛.

*Hides under the nearest bed*
Guns aren't the problem, otherwise Dick Cheney would help us 😛. They got NUKES - and well so does North Korea but they hate everyone so it's more like playing russian roulette with a 200 slot barrel with them 😛.
 
I support the bill for one reason.

It puts legislation to STOP Insurance companies from turning down customers, and also it will stop them from just blindly turning someone down when they actually have a problem. If anything, I think Obama should subsidize insurance rather than subsidize corn production. Don't know what I'm talking about? Watch Food, Inc.

Put yourself into someone's shoes. Imagine if you had cancer, and your insurance company had just dropped your insurance. You cannot get insurance anywhere in your state. What do you do?
 
Enslaving someone with nukes is like trying to thread a needle with a chainsaw. :lol:
 
Cosmic said:
Enslaving someone with nukes is like trying to thread a needle with a chainsaw. :lol:
Their government is optimistic. At least in a few hundred years they'll be able to claim that land when the people there don't have 5 arms and expand even more 😛.
 
el canadiano said:
I support the bill for one reason.

It puts legislation to STOP Insurance companies from turning down customers, and also it will stop them from just blindly turning someone down when they actually have a problem. If anything, I think Obama should subsidize insurance rather than subsidize corn production. Don't know what I'm talking about? Watch Food, Inc.

Put yourself into someone's shoes. Imagine if you had cancer, and your insurance company had just dropped your insurance. You cannot get insurance anywhere in your state. What do you do?
Trying to get health insurance with a pre-existing condition which is deadly is like asking for auto-insurance while you're stranded on the side of the road, with your car up against a telephone pole.
 
Irviding said:
Don't care much. The bill is a piece of **** that isn't doing anything. Where is the public option?
That's exactly how I feel, too. :/
 
Just remember, America is the only developed country where there are personal bankruptcy cases due to medical debt. Do you prefer to not have any legislation against large insurance corporations? Do you really have a problem with Obama bailing out American banks? Perhaps you should've cared when the American banks were using leverage to add profit. Perhaps you should have let another Lehman Brothers collapse and file for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. What Obama did was something he had to do, not something that he wanted to do.

For my example, assume you had cancer AFTER you bought insurance. That happened to an Iowa woman, by the way.
 
Why do you guys care? It gives health care to those less fortunate to have paid heath care like me. all this socialist stuff, guys, get real, seriously 😛
 
bekah said:
Why do you guys care? It gives health care to those less fortunate to have paid heath care like me. all this socialist stuff, guys, get real, seriously 😛
In case you hadn't noticed, the US was built with an economy that is more or less half socialist. So, yeah. Don't talk about socialism as if it is the devil.
 
socialism isnt even real 😛 there is no true socialism in the world
 
Exactly, we combine Socialist and Free Market to make a hybrid economy. True socialism tried to take over the world and failed.
 
bekah said:
Why do you guys care? It gives health care to those less fortunate to have paid heath care like me. all this socialist stuff, guys, get real, seriously 😛
There is no "free stuff". Someone ahs to pay for everything, and in this case, the one paying for it are you and me, and later generations. Such things colelct national debts which must be paid, eventually, through taxes. We owe various people $12,000,000,000,000. They will not say "hey, your $12 trillion dollars is on the house!"
 
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