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racism has nothing to do with religion. a black person can be christian, a white person can too. and guess what, so can an african, an arab, and somebody from china. it has nothing to do with race. grow up
 
Okay, you're telling me to grow up? Are you out of your mind?

You are agreeing with the statement " A muslim can't rule a christian nation " and you depict me as an idiot and tell me to grow up?

I think you sir are the one who needs to grow up 😉
 
Jughead said:
A nation of Christianity shouldn't be led by a practicing Muslim. :lol:
????? This is the most absurd thing i have read...
Incidently, if you can not handle a debate gggk i suggest you leave the thread, instead of insulting people by telling them to "grow up" He who throws the first insult stone needs to address themselves.
 
Irviding said:
Okay, you're telling me to grow up? Are you out of your mind?

You are agreeing with the statement " A muslim can't rule a christian nation " and you depict me as an idiot and tell me to grow up?

I think you sir are the one who needs to grow up 😉
i never said i agreed with that.... please tell me where i did.... i simply said religion has nothing to do with race
 
wednesday said:
Jughead said:
A nation of Christianity shouldn't be led by a practicing Muslim. :lol:
????? This is the most absurd thing i have read...
Incidently, if you can not handle a debate gggk i suggest you leave the thread, instead of insulting people by telling them to "grow up" He who throws the first insult stone needs to address themselves.
he who is to ignorant to to see religion and race are two separate things needs to grow up prolly shouldnt debate in the first place. its absurd. everyone knows religion and race are two separate things. although obviously you like to agree with irviding and say that religion and race are the same.
 
I have my own views....and i dont need to throw childish insults to get my point across.

Even if you believe race and religion to be different, if you are biased and against either, it comes down to the same thing.

And if i do happen to agree with Irviding would you also tell me to grow up?
My answer would simply be....if you cannot handle others opinions in life, then it is you sir that needs to grow.
 
Also, even if you do view the US as a Christian Nation, the founding fathers do not.

The words Jesus ,god ,Christianity bible, and all that jazz, are not in the constitution.
 
The founding fathers were all conservative, a fact lost to school history books in the 20th century climaxing in calling them liberal in the 80s.

Get your facts straight.
 
wednesday said:
I have my own views....and i dont need to throw childish insults to get my point across.

Even if you believe race and religion to be different, if you are biased and against either, it comes down to the same thing.

And if i do happen to agree with Irviding would you also tell me to grow up?
My answer would simply be....if you cannot handle others opinions in life, then it is you sir that needs to grow.
you see, if i said my opinion was that dinosaurs will one day come back to rule the world, you would tell me to grow up, because dinosaurs are extinct. however if i were to tell you scientists are using dna found frozen from millions of years ago to create an extinct species you would go hmmm i think your wrong, but at least you have reason. that is the same thing. religion and race are different. if you take any high level education you learn that. ever seen a white christian? of course. well guess what. i've met christians from israel, iraq, pakistan, nigeria, germany and all over the world. how does that make religion and race the same? your logic is absurd and combined with the fact so far your evidence has been just like dinosaurs (nonexistent) that makes your reasoning and opinions childish by nature. anyone can say something, but true intellect is giving fact and reasoning to support it
 
Irviding said:
Also, even if you do view the US as a Christian Nation, the founding fathers do not.

The words Jesus ,god ,Christianity bible, and all that jazz, are not in the constitution.
once again wrong. you really need to read up on history. so far everything i've heard you say has been straight from katie curic. and you say i listen to rush limbaugh and look at you. thats quite hypocritical isnt it?
 
gqgk said:
wednesday said:
I have my own views....and i dont need to throw childish insults to get my point across.

Even if you believe race and religion to be different, if you are biased and against either, it comes down to the same thing.

And if i do happen to agree with Irviding would you also tell me to grow up?
My answer would simply be....if you cannot handle others opinions in life, then it is you sir that needs to grow.
you see, if i said my opinion was that dinosaurs will one day come back to rule the world, you would tell me to grow up, because dinosaurs are extinct. however if i were to tell you scientists are using dna found frozen from millions of years ago to create an extinct species you would go hmmm i think your wrong, but at least you have reason. that is the same thing. religion and race are different. if you take any high level education you learn that. ever seen a white christian? of course. well guess what. i've met christians from israel, iraq, pakistan, nigeria, germany and all over the world. how does that make religion and race the same? your logic is absurd and combined with the fact so far your evidence has been just like dinosaurs (nonexistent) that makes your reasoning and opinions childish by nature. anyone can say something, but true intellect is giving fact and reasoning to support it

I promise i did try to read through all through all of this...but i got lost when you started waffling about dinosaurs? You are quick to presume things...have i actually stated i am in agreement with anything either of you have said? No...i have merely stated that being bigotry to race OR religion results in the same matter...bigotry. End of.

Lastly , do you take great joy in double posting?
 
People actually care about his religion? Urgh.. what is this day and age turning into?
 
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Also, even if you do view the US as a Christian Nation, the founding fathers do not.

The words Jesus ,god ,Christianity bible, and all that jazz, are not in the constitution.
once again wrong. you really need to read up on history. so far everything i've heard you say has been straight from katie curic. and you say i listen to rush limbaugh and look at you. thats quite hypocritical isnt it?
Really? Show me where religion is discussed in the constitution other than the clause about no religious exams to get public office and the separation of church and state clause.

Please, show it to me and shoe me how wrong I am. If the founding fathers wanted this to be a Christian nation, they would have made it known to us. The point of what they did was to guarantee ultimate freedom. England had a national religion, and the Founding fathers did not want a national religion.
 
Irviding said:
gqgk said:
Irviding said:
Also, even if you do view the US as a Christian Nation, the founding fathers do not.

The words Jesus ,god ,Christianity bible, and all that jazz, are not in the constitution.
once again wrong. you really need to read up on history. so far everything i've heard you say has been straight from katie curic. and you say i listen to rush limbaugh and look at you. thats quite hypocritical isnt it?
Really? Show me where religion is discussed in the constitution other than the clause about no religious exams to get public office and the separation of church and state clause.

Please, show it to me and shoe me how wrong I am. If the founding fathers wanted this to be a Christian nation, they would have made it known to us. The point of what they did was to guarantee ultimate freedom. England had a national religion, and the Founding fathers did not want a national religion.
they used a lot of scripture when writing it. but you wouldnt know that
 
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The point of the creation of this country was to NOT be like England. The founding fathers put those clauses in so everyone would have ultimate freedom.

I think you're the one who wouldn't know that. All you do is continuously tell me how stupid I am but really, who's the stupid one here?
 
Muslums lean that you should convert everyone you can, even by force, to learn your ways. Thats why some of them become terrorists. They have earned a bad rep for that, but they really arn't bad.
 
Twisted Fairytale said:
Muslums lean that you should convert everyone you can, even by force, to learn your ways. Thats why some of them become terrorists. They have earned a bad rep for that, but they really arn't bad.
That's not true at all. Common fallacy that many Americans are exposed to by the right wing media.

Muslims are about peace and love. They are JUST like Christians, or Jewish, or Hindoo, etc, they aren't about killing. Some just are misguided. For example, the Qurran says that women and children shall never be hurt even in times of war, etc.

Nothing in the Qurran says to convert by force. Some are simply misguided, just like extreme Christians who blow up planned parenthood buildings or shoot gay people.
 
I completely agree with you Irviding. I hate how people don't like him just because he's Muslim. Just let him do his job and quit complaining.
 
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