Your thoughts on Homosexuality?
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Why should it matter what someone's sexuality is, or indeed what their race or gender is?
I would love to live in a world of true equality, where everybody had an equal opportunity to excel, and unfortunately at the moment that doesn't seem to be the case in some parts of the world.
If you can't tell, I have no problem with people who are homosexual or bisexual, it's just who they are.
I would love to live in a world of true equality, where everybody had an equal opportunity to excel, and unfortunately at the moment that doesn't seem to be the case in some parts of the world.
If you can't tell, I have no problem with people who are homosexual or bisexual, it's just who they are.
There's nothing wrong with gay people because everyone has a right to choose their own ways of life. I think that it's quite sad at the same time, though. Out of all the girls a boy could have picked, why would he turn homosexual? That's the problem with homosexuality, in my opinion anyway.
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I really don't understand why people think homosexuals have chosen their thought process. You say it's chosen... so what about you?... Could you be gay? Could you ever love a person of the same gender in that way? No, you couldn't, why?... cause you ain't gay.
Being gay is not a choice people make, it's the way they are, like having good vision, or having allergies. I am rather tall, and I'm very bulky, even if I had not one ounce of fat or muscle on me, I would still be stronger-looking than most other people. Have I chosen to be this way, no, of course not.
People sometimes have the idea that all things mental are completely under our control, that we can choose to be, or to think anything we want. But we can't.
You know, I have to say, I'm really wondering whether that last statement was an insult to the gay community, or whether you really just don't understand homosexuals. 😕
iBase100 said:
I really don't understand why people think homosexuals have chosen their thought process. You say it's chosen... so what about you?... Could you be gay? Could you ever love a person of the same gender in that way? No, you couldn't, why?... cause you ain't gay.
Being gay is not a choice people make, it's the way they are, like having good vision, or having allergies. I am rather tall, and I'm very bulky, even if I had not one ounce of fat or muscle on me, I would still be stronger-looking than most other people. Have I chosen to be this way, no, of course not.
People sometimes have the idea that all things mental are completely under our control, that we can choose to be, or to think anything we want. But we can't.
You know, I have to say, I'm really wondering whether that last statement was an insult to the gay community, or whether you really just don't understand homosexuals. 😕
It is something I do not understand, something I don't really think about, and something that while I don't agree with, I try not to pass judgment. I am a Christian and know what it says in the Bible about it. But, surely some people don't want to be gay. Maybe they are born this way. If they chose to be gay why do they get married, have children, and "come out" years later if at all? I wonder how many marriages out there right now are heterosexuals married to homosexuals and they don't even know.
miyakayu said:
In society, you are expected to couple with the opposite gender, have a family, and move forward. No matter how hard gays try to do this, it just never works out. I would not blaime society though; blaime the individuals. In a relationship, any relationship, both couples should be completely open to one another. If you are holding back homosexual feelings from your spouse, then I think that is betrayal.
What can we do as a society? (1) Legalize gay marriage (2) Accept differences in people.
As for as the bible... Goodness... Where do I start?
When the subject of homosexual marriage is addressed by the religious community, the Bible is usually quoted. One of the most popular quotations is I Corinthians 7:2-4, which states ". . . let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. . . ." This passage undoubtedly establishes that marriage is between one man and one woman. However, there are a few more rules that the Bible assigns to marriage which are usually overlooked and are not considered part of “traditional" marriage. Therefore, traditional marriage is not relative to religion, but rather traditional marriage is relative to society. If we were to define marriage according to the Christian faith, then we would have to fully adhere to all of the rules laid out in the Bible, not just some of them.
The Bible restricts marriage between different groups of people, which we would normally not consider to be a religious sanction. Marriage is prohibited between people of different races (Deuteronomy 7:3; Number 25:6-8 & 36:3-9; 1 Kings 11:2; Ezra 9:2; Nehemiah 13:25-27). Keep in mind, in this point of time "race" was relative to someone's ethnicity, not necessarily the color of their skin. Also, people from different religious backgrounds cannot marry (2 Corinthians 6:14-18; 2 John 1:9-11). Therefore, according to the Bible, people of different races, creeds, colors, or national origins are not allowed to inter-marry.
The Bible considerably restricts the freewill of women in marriage. The Bible clearly defines that a woman is subject to her husband (Ephesians 5:21-24; 1 Peter 3:1; 1 Corinthians 11:3; Colossians 3:18; 1 Timothy 2:11-12; Titus 2:3, 5). Also, the Bible restricts who a woman can marry. According to Matthew 5:32, a divorced woman cannot remarry. An antagonistic or aggressive woman is not even allowed to marry (Proverbs 21:9; 21:19; 25:24; & 27:15). A woman is also required to marry her brother-in-law upon the death of her husband (Deuteronomy 25:5-10); however, if a brother-in-law is unavailable, then she is to refrain from intimacy for the remainder of her life (1 Timothy 5:5-15). But most profoundly, if a woman is raped and she does not report the crime, then she is to marry her rapist (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). Therefore, according to the Bible, women are required to marry certain individuals and lose all rights upon marriage.
Laws cannot be established based on the ancient Christian concept of marriage. Society has adapted and changed and so have the interpretation, meaning, and importance of these scriptures. Maybe someday, I Corinthians 7:2-4 will be interpreted differently or less important. However, the fact of the matter is that traditional marriage is not based on the ancient Christian concept of marriage. Women are free and equal to men and are allowed to marry (or not to marry) any man they want. Men and women of different ethnic backgrounds are allowed to marry without any hesitation. Therefore, the Christian religion cannot be used to define marriage.
I'm gay and its certainly not something i chose to be, i'm not ashamed nor unhappy with who i am though.
As trubu said, why would anyone chose to be gay? i know peoples views have changed and are still continuing to improve on homosexuality, but for the past 2 years i've been living a lie and even to this day i'm not "out" to anyone in real life as i'm worried as to how people will take it. I'm not even out to anyone online until, well, now i suppose 😛 It's not an easy way of life, no matter how many people accept homosexuality, theres a few people that don't.
Like many other people in this thread though, i don't like the overly camp people, they act like girls and want the whole world to know they are there.
As trubu said, why would anyone chose to be gay? i know peoples views have changed and are still continuing to improve on homosexuality, but for the past 2 years i've been living a lie and even to this day i'm not "out" to anyone in real life as i'm worried as to how people will take it. I'm not even out to anyone online until, well, now i suppose 😛 It's not an easy way of life, no matter how many people accept homosexuality, theres a few people that don't.
Like many other people in this thread though, i don't like the overly camp people, they act like girls and want the whole world to know they are there.
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CarMadMike said:
Good for you Mike, your orientation is your choice, I don't think any less of you, infact I think more of you for telling the truth.
Anyway, onto another topic, I've been feeling bad lately because I have one gay member on my political forum and he's constantly called a pedophile by some of my arch conservative members.. he seems to take it well though, he says some nice things back to them 😛
Thanks irviding =)
And about your problem, probably best you talk to the member and see if he is offended by it, he may just find it as friendly banter. If he is offended then maybe talk to the offenders, they don't have to agree with him being gay, they just shouldn't bring it up offensively.
And about your problem, probably best you talk to the member and see if he is offended by it, he may just find it as friendly banter. If he is offended then maybe talk to the offenders, they don't have to agree with him being gay, they just shouldn't bring it up offensively.
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Nah I just feel bad for him a bit.. I don't know why, because he doesn't feel bad at all. He just laughs at them and hits them right back with other stuff.CarMadMike said:
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Never saw that coming mate, but it doesn't change anything. I won't say i'm happy for you, because I wouldn't be "happy" for someone who isn't, and that would show unfairness. However if you ever find a partner up to your standards, i'll be happy for the both of you as i'd be happy for any other couple, regardless of race / gender / nose size. If you ask me it doesn't matter whether someone chooses to be gay or if they're born gay, what matters is that they're human too. By the time death comes the only important thing is that you lived life the best you could, whether you were unmarried, or whatever.
Never saw that coming mate, but it doesn't change anything. I won't say i'm happy for you, because I wouldn't be "happy" for someone who isn't, and that would show unfairness. However if you ever find a partner up to your standards, i'll be happy for the both of you as i'd be happy for any other couple, regardless of race / gender / nose size. If you ask me it doesn't matter whether someone chooses to be gay or if they're born gay, what matters is that they're human too. By the time death comes the only important thing is that you lived life the best you could, whether you were unmarried, or whatever.
I am completely against it ... I don't like the idea ... I'm not religious actually very scientific and and such and I believe there is not possible way to be born homosexual...
Yes there are a few amongst that have difficulties choosing or being a part of one sex due to medical conditions but thats another discussion...
Everyone who wants to be or is homosexual did it because of some personal influence or choice. There is no way except psychologically to 'create' a homosexual person and now-a-days with all of the 'sex-sales' attitudes this may be a big influence on such behaviors ...
nonetheless, I am completely against even though I have a few friends that happen to be homosexual, I do not stand for the activity around me.... so
Yes there are a few amongst that have difficulties choosing or being a part of one sex due to medical conditions but thats another discussion...
Everyone who wants to be or is homosexual did it because of some personal influence or choice. There is no way except psychologically to 'create' a homosexual person and now-a-days with all of the 'sex-sales' attitudes this may be a big influence on such behaviors ...
nonetheless, I am completely against even though I have a few friends that happen to be homosexual, I do not stand for the activity around me.... so
@sykx
I agree with your last bit. I don't enjoy it when my friend and her boyfriend make out in front of me, it's not different in any other scenario. My girlfriend and I try to keep our relationship as private as possible for that reason.
I agree with your last bit. I don't enjoy it when my friend and her boyfriend make out in front of me, it's not different in any other scenario. My girlfriend and I try to keep our relationship as private as possible for that reason.
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