Any tips for bringing in members?

Luigi1632 said:
Yes because I made him a moderator.
I asked him to help me out on my forum and there you go.
and this is what I said:
I have to demote you to a moderator..

I know you will get pissed about this, but the layout is as fine as it is..

Those guys at forumpromotion said this:

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Dude one of the first pieces of advise we gave you was it was a BAD idea to give anyone Administrator status that just asked for it. We told you the number of staff you had was way OTT for a starter forum and that positions like that should only be given to those you know well and trust..... you ignored us again.

Now you find yourself in the very situation that we told you it was a bad idea. You now have someone you don't even know that well dictating how YOUR forum should be run. And you are letting him dictate that. If you are not happy with that situation how do you expect to get members?
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and we are a starter forum, we don't even have 1000 posts or 50 members and such..

Now, don't get pissed about this, pokemoneinstein, you will get your admin position back in the future..

Now I'm not going to change the layout, it is fine as it is..

Now, dude we need to do what the people want.Not what you want..

I mean look at this one guy's forum


http://www.gamerperfection.com/forum.ph ... 3055df2fef

He has areas for discussing consoles.

Plus in that one thread(http://forumpromotion.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=45571), they are insulting you and stuff.

Pokemoneinstein, until we have 50/ or 100 members who are active and such, you'll have to be a moderator.

If you want something done to the forum, go post about it in the feedback/suggestions area..

Sorry to do this ,
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Now, another thing..
We aren't overstaffed.
Do you think two admins and two mods is overstaffed?
None of them are bigger than the other.
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Ok, let's look at this now....

You tell him that you have to demote him to a moderator, it wasn't quite said with tact was it?

You quote him a message "from me" to show him what I said, this would most likely appear to him as you demoting him solely because of what i said. So then that makes it sound like not only was he telling you what to do as admin it sounds like i'm telling you what to do. Can you stand on your own two feet?

You also keep referring to the "layout being fine as it is" but this is not the "real" problem here is it. The problem with your other ex-admin was not because he wanted to change the layout, it is because he was ruling YOUR forum and doing what he wanted.

Pointing out my forum to him to show him that i have sections to discuss various consoles isn't going to help anything. generally unique or specific forums/sites generate better traffic than "general gaming" forums. Mine is actually a "general gaming" site and I know that it is harder to get actiove people on my site than if I made it specific to something and not to generalise it. That is something I am constantly considering and discussing with my mate. but there's no rush for making a decision.

You gave him a link to this very thread and you told him that WE are INSULTING him. How dare you accuse US, the very people that are trying to help you and provide you the advice you seek that we are insulting him. We are not insulting him. We have told you again and again that you making him admin because he asked to be admin was a very bad idea. It was your decision and you made a bad one. Please point out to us exactly where we INSULTED him???

You keep blaming everyone else for the problems and you don't take any responsibility yourself.

Yes you are overstaffed.
Take my forum for example...

I have 40+ members, and of those I have 1 Admin (myself) and 1 Moderator. Now when I set up the forum I still had 1 Admin and 1 Moderator. Did I need the Moderator? NO. But, the Moderator is my best mate in real life, i work with him, i've known him since i was 16, I trust him with my life (except when he's drunk lol). He has never asked to be Admin and he understands why I haven't offered it to him. He never asked to be Moderator, but i offered it to him because he's the one that creates most of the reviews, so I gave him the ability to create content on the site.

Even if we had 100 members I would still only have 1 Admin and 1 Moderator. Only when i have very very active members constantly posting would i consider expanding the team.

Let me ask you this.... You have 16 members, 2 of them are Admin (or were), 2 of them are Moderators. This means 25% of your members are staff. So what are the 2 Admins and 2 Moderators doing with their time when there's 12 members on your forum? Are they having to Mod anything? Do you not see how having 4 out of 16 members as staff is being overstaffed?
 
He's not a good member, he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about but nor do I either but I can guarantee you that you will gain more activity by taking our advice, also why is he administrator if you know he is going to change these things constantly, demote him he obviously is a power freak and can't gain power anywhere else but your forum. You are the man of your forum and you should remain the main man controlling your forum to the standards that it should be. You also stated, ''orgnization'' and all that crap, that my friend is called advice, and it is your bestfriend as advice like this is success, success, success.
Also have you tried what David told you to do, you give in to easy or sound like your not dedicated to your forum if your not willing to try or experimenting things that can lead your forum to success. I don't think you read over half these post's as you reply to all the ones with the simpliest replies.
Just promote everywhere, I gave you a link to a thread with advertising forums which are used a lot and you should advertise there, Forum Promotion is a place to promote also but you can't always rely on this to be your key to success, Forum Promotion doesn't have to be here, nor does other forums, so take the advantage and go long, for once!
 
I see you have reinstated him as an Admin.

You have disregarded everything we have said, and you are still letting him control what goes on in the forum. You are your own worst enemy.

You will struggle to get off the ground if you keep throwing our advice back at us. I thought maybe we were actually getting through to you, but I guess not. Personally I don't think you are ready enough to run a forum. Maybe wait a few years until you are older, then maybe you have a bit of money to buy a professional forum and maybe that would give you enough reason to do what we have actually suggested.
 
Well he was going to leave, so that's why.

He said we can change this to 2 admins and one mod for the "overstaffing stuff".

Me and another member are going to help out his forum and since I'm one of his affilaties and I've advertised there..

He said that if I help them out and get lots of members, people might see my site and be interested and join.

Sorta of a Win-Win situation.
 
Luigi1632 said:
Well he was going to leave, so that's why.
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You still don't understand what is wrong here do you? Your problem was making someone an Admin because he asked to be one, and then when you made changes to your own site he changed it back. You were annoyed about that. Then when you demote him and he threatens to leave, you give him Admin back and everything is ok?????

Luigi1632 said:
He said we can change this to 2 admins and one mod for the "overstaffing stuff".
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Here we go again, he's telling you what you can do and you are going to do it, yet we advised you many times about the overstaffing and you kept telling us it was fine. You seem to be ignoring us and there are quite a few experienced people here, and you continue to do whatever the other Admin wants.

Luigi1632 said:
He said that if I help them out and get lots of members, people might see my site and be interested and join.

Sorta of a Win-Win situation.
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How do you expect to help him out and get him lots of members when you can't take control of your own forum and are struggling with your own?
 
Well actually, he doesn't do anything to mess up the site, plus we need someone to make extra boards that are requested when I'm not around.
 
I have another piece of advice for you, I guess i'm probably wasting my breath here as you'll not listen, but here goes anyway....

When someone joins your forum and introduces themselves you respond with:

Welcome to our fine site..

Now i have a couple of questions:
1)Where did you find this forum?
2)Will you try to be active and help out if possible?
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and....

All right, that is fine.

But at least come here and check what's going on and such.
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You are making a mistake here because you are telling people to be active, to help out, and to keep coming back. You don't tell your members what to do, you don't tell them to be active.

It is YOUR responsibility to provide the "content", the "entertainment", and the "interest factor" to make them WANT to be active and to keep coming back. It is your responsibility to do that, and if you do it, and you do it well then you will find that people will be active. But tellnig them to keep coming back is wrong, because you need to give people a reason to want to come back.

Am I wasting my time here? Is it worth me trying to help?
 
The first question was fine, Admins always like to know where people found their site.

But asking them if they are going to be active and telling them to keep coming back is wrong. You need to make them "want" to be active.
 
Alright, then..

But I am still going to help my friend with his forum..

and maybe the members there might take an interest in my forum and join..
 
Well good luck with it, just don't know how you can help get members on someone elses forum when you struggle on your own forum.

But next time you ask for people's advice, listen, absorb it, consider it, then decide what to do.

Don't throw it back in our faces. And when you do something that someone on your forum doesn't like don't claim that WE are INSULTING them.
 
Well if I do demote him to a mod, what should I say so I don't piss him off and that he will accept that it has to be done and he won't leave?
 
The forum isn't big enough to require 2 admins. All you need is 1 admin and 1 moderator. Even 1 admin and 0 moderators is enough to manage a forum your size. He has to understand that it isn't necessary to have that many staff at this early stage.

I also have a question... did you see the Quick Review results that the Review Team gave here on your site?
 
Not yet..

Now anyways, I sent that guy a PM..

I think the reason he got pissed, was I did without his consent..

So I asked him if it was okay for me to do this..
 
Clarkey I don't think you should bother giving him the great advice that you are giving him. He can't take it all in because he ain't listening to us.
 
Ragin'Junkie said:
Clarkey I don't think you should bother giving him the great advice that you are giving him. He can't take it all in because he ain't listening to us.
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Very true. I wanted to help, but atleast I can say i tried, and if he falls over he's only got himself to blame.
 
Yes exact. He asked for tips, we gave him tips but which he made turn into a help thread or a ''support me'' thread on which he can do. The easiest thing would be best to look out themes, promote everywhere, remove the admin which sounds like a jack in the ass, do exchanges and promote.
Oh God, just viewed his site the icon images are absolute ugly. Luigi try iconfinder.net or iconarchive.com for better and non-ugly icons.
 
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