Do kids get it too easy?
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I don't think this generation has it any easier nor any harder. I think that every generation has had it's issues that make it difficult.
This one's has been struggling more with bullying and unemployment (though there are naturally more than just that, but I'm only going to mention them here). Past generations struggled with huge wars, equality for women and black people. (Though those struggles still continue today, so let's not pretend things are solved, but they are better than they used to be.)
Unemployment has been touched on a bit already so I won't focus much on it. But it's difficult to get a job. Many places now won't even hire you without university or college education. (So between 10,000 and 50,000 to even potentially get a job.) and often they now want 1-2 years of experience too. (Which creates a catch 22 of needing experience to get a job to get experience to get a job.) It very much seems like the only places that will hire still often require completion of highschool and then they only pay minimum wage. Couple that with the increased cost of living means it's that much harder now to survive. (Let alone in third world countries where things have to be absolutely brutal...)
Bullying has gotten to be an absolutely massive problem for kids in developed nations (I can't speak about developing nations, though I wouldn't think things would be any easier for them) because unlike years ago (before the internet) if bullying went on it happened at school and when the victim went home they got at least some reprieve from the torment. But now the bullies can continue tormenting people online, all day and night. They can also reach a much larger audience with their tactics too. (Posting something on facebook or youtube for example might be read by a million or more people... And once posted it might never go away. Especially since people can screenshot or download things to save them for later and then repost them.)
Plus it seems like bullies have also gotten a lot more vicious now than ever. And the level of violence has escalated. (Years ago things might have been settled with a fist fight, now knives and guns are involved.)
And technology will always impact a generation's struggles. The next generation's technology will likely be even better and affect them in new ways we haven't even thought of yet. I don't foresee this issue changing any time soon.
This one's has been struggling more with bullying and unemployment (though there are naturally more than just that, but I'm only going to mention them here). Past generations struggled with huge wars, equality for women and black people. (Though those struggles still continue today, so let's not pretend things are solved, but they are better than they used to be.)
Unemployment has been touched on a bit already so I won't focus much on it. But it's difficult to get a job. Many places now won't even hire you without university or college education. (So between 10,000 and 50,000 to even potentially get a job.) and often they now want 1-2 years of experience too. (Which creates a catch 22 of needing experience to get a job to get experience to get a job.) It very much seems like the only places that will hire still often require completion of highschool and then they only pay minimum wage. Couple that with the increased cost of living means it's that much harder now to survive. (Let alone in third world countries where things have to be absolutely brutal...)
Bullying has gotten to be an absolutely massive problem for kids in developed nations (I can't speak about developing nations, though I wouldn't think things would be any easier for them) because unlike years ago (before the internet) if bullying went on it happened at school and when the victim went home they got at least some reprieve from the torment. But now the bullies can continue tormenting people online, all day and night. They can also reach a much larger audience with their tactics too. (Posting something on facebook or youtube for example might be read by a million or more people... And once posted it might never go away. Especially since people can screenshot or download things to save them for later and then repost them.)
Plus it seems like bullies have also gotten a lot more vicious now than ever. And the level of violence has escalated. (Years ago things might have been settled with a fist fight, now knives and guns are involved.)
And technology will always impact a generation's struggles. The next generation's technology will likely be even better and affect them in new ways we haven't even thought of yet. I don't foresee this issue changing any time soon.
If I wanted to I could find enjoyment in living off the land in the middle of the woods by myself.
Life's essentials only include:
-Food/Water
-Shelter
-Connection (human interaction, personal awareness/stability, etc)
Those 3 things come first and with those 3 you can be fully happy. Our problems however stem from things that we do not always need.
Life's essentials only include:
-Food/Water
-Shelter
-Connection (human interaction, personal awareness/stability, etc)
Those 3 things come first and with those 3 you can be fully happy. Our problems however stem from things that we do not always need.
I do not think kids have it easy today at all, i think parent may think they do, but we live in a material world these days, if a child doesnt have the lastest pair of shoes, they are mocked. Kids are cruel: fat - mocked, Ginger - mocked, wear glasses - mocked the list goes on and on.
I would like children to be children for as long as possible but peer pressure prevents that from being the case, parents have to work, sometimes two jobs and usually both parents, as a result of this children are expected to grow up and care for themselves much earlier than in the 70-80s for example. The we have the pressures of providing which in turn leads to pressure in relationship which in turn leads to breakups, more children that ever are part of or come from a broken family which results again in having to grow up quickly.
Next there is nothing for children to do these days, everything that is available costs money and because of the economic climate parents find it hard to afford to pay for their kids to go to groups or centers.
In reality i am pleased I;m an old fart i would hate to be the youth of today, i think they have it hard, hard to be a child, hard to fit in and hard at most homes
I would like children to be children for as long as possible but peer pressure prevents that from being the case, parents have to work, sometimes two jobs and usually both parents, as a result of this children are expected to grow up and care for themselves much earlier than in the 70-80s for example. The we have the pressures of providing which in turn leads to pressure in relationship which in turn leads to breakups, more children that ever are part of or come from a broken family which results again in having to grow up quickly.
Next there is nothing for children to do these days, everything that is available costs money and because of the economic climate parents find it hard to afford to pay for their kids to go to groups or centers.
In reality i am pleased I;m an old fart i would hate to be the youth of today, i think they have it hard, hard to be a child, hard to fit in and hard at most homes
Of course they don't get it easy. I mean sure, maybe some exams and things in school might be easier now than they were in the past, but other things are a lot harder for today's kids. Like as said, they have to keep up with the whole 'having the latest material possessions' thing not to get mocked and bullied in school, and then when they finish, getting a job is much more difficult because of the recession. Oh, have no experience? Then you're stuck. Overqualified and no experience? Stuck. Have anything other than the highest standard of degree? Then you won't get into any graduate schemes or degrees afterwards.
So in that sense, kids have it a lot more difficult nowadays.
So in that sense, kids have it a lot more difficult nowadays.
I never really noticed how bad it was until i came back from Bootcamp and i went to visit my high school teachers. I then realized how unthankful, spoiled, oblivious, lazy, and disrespectful kids are nowadays.. There are still some good ones out there and i still have faith for our generation! I think we just need a wake up call.
let me just say one thing here
''parents s...k these days at raising their kids, end of story.''
i mean, im not trying to offend any of you here right now, dont get me wrong
its nothing persnoal
im saying my opinion is like that because i think its true... i think 8 outta 10 parents these days care more for their money, how many times they have sex per week, if they got the latest gadgets etc
more than rather having to care about what their kids are doing on the internet or if they behave okay when they are at school etc etc
dont tell me im wrong there, you know its true for like at least 60% :shrug:
it sickens me :sleep:
luckily, i know, there are still people out there that are succesfull lol
thumbs up for those people
(am i being totally off topic with what i just all said? 😳 )
''parents s...k these days at raising their kids, end of story.''
i mean, im not trying to offend any of you here right now, dont get me wrong
its nothing persnoal
im saying my opinion is like that because i think its true... i think 8 outta 10 parents these days care more for their money, how many times they have sex per week, if they got the latest gadgets etc
more than rather having to care about what their kids are doing on the internet or if they behave okay when they are at school etc etc
dont tell me im wrong there, you know its true for like at least 60% :shrug:
it sickens me :sleep:
luckily, i know, there are still people out there that are succesfull lol
thumbs up for those people
(am i being totally off topic with what i just all said? 😳 )
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I see a lot of kids that just seem spoiled to me. For instance, every kid I see now has their own cell phone. I didn't have a cell phone till I got my first job 'cause I had to pay for it myself. My parents made me work for everything I had, I wasn't just given everything I wanted. I had to EARN it. I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing kids born with a cell phone in their hand 'cause every kid has one now just about.
Bazinga! said:
i get what you are saying
a lot of youth today do get spoiled too much
but on the other hand... A LOT OF OTHER KIDS do not
as there is still poor people out there , having to live with only a few bucks a day.....
that the world is so messed up like that, hurts me deeply
a lot of youth today do get spoiled too much
but on the other hand... A LOT OF OTHER KIDS do not
as there is still poor people out there , having to live with only a few bucks a day.....
that the world is so messed up like that, hurts me deeply
jdab said:
Kids do get it easy nowadays but the times and elements of society has changed, so it isn't as shocking as some people might think it is.
Practically no kid these days has to endure a spanking or corporal punishment in school or at home. Physical punishment is almost completely phased out of most schools, households and even opinions on rearing youngsters. Back when I was a kid, that was not the case. I remember getting it at school and getting it even more at home. However, back when my folks were kids, the whippings they got made the ones I got look like a birthday spanking... Years ago, children were almost killed (some believe they were killed) for breaking parental rules. Times change and punishments get less severe.
However, I have seen that most of time, law enforcement and the criminal justice system are being the new punishment givers of our kids these days. SWAT team busting into schools over simple scuffles, kids getting arrested for refusing to do the simplest things in school and at home... I find it fascinating but insane all at the same time.
Aside from those topics, when I was 8-9 years old, I started working - cutting grass for pay. Most of the money I made was taken by my folks, too. That was part of being a child. Nowadays, I don't see kids cutting grass or shoveling snow for money, instead, they are inside playing Call of Halo or Grand Theft Mario on their Play Station 360s and Game Wiis. 😛
The real wonder though, will this continue in the future, will people in the future say, man those 2015 kids had it rough compared to our kids...or will our current status eventually extinct us? I suppose we just leave it up for debate, right?
In some ways yes, in others no. When my parents were growing up my Dad worked over the summer and could fully pay for his university education and living costs throughout the year. University was 100% free with an allowance. He received no money from his father (who could have supported him).
Not only can I not do that, even with the extremely well paid job I've had ($30-40/hr but only 15 hrs a week), I have to have a student loan & get a significant amount of help from my parents. I'll end up with $60,000 in debt. My Dad had $0.
Being where I am, I might be shielded from some of the lazy people in society but the vast majority of young people do want to work hard and help themselves get ahead.
Not only can I not do that, even with the extremely well paid job I've had ($30-40/hr but only 15 hrs a week), I have to have a student loan & get a significant amount of help from my parents. I'll end up with $60,000 in debt. My Dad had $0.
Being where I am, I might be shielded from some of the lazy people in society but the vast majority of young people do want to work hard and help themselves get ahead.
I think a lot of what y'all pointed out are class differences. Corporal punishment for children is and always has been more common within lower classes, as opposed to middle or upper classes. The same goes for child labor and the like. The middle class in the United States (and many other countries) has grown over the last few decades as the economy has shifted more towards a service-oriented economy. There are whole new fields in engineering and business that did not exist half a century ago, and these jobs are being filled by Americans at an increasing rate.
The world economy is essentially being structured in a way such that the citizens in countries like the United States have more white collar jobs (such as designing things), and third world countries have more traditional blue collar jobs (such as manufacturing things). Of course, the United States will never have a 100% service economy, but those are the general trends. The main cause behind this is globalization: the idea that it's cheapest to manufacture things in China, where manual labor is cheapest, to grow Bananas in South America where the climate is most favorable, pump oil from the Middle East where it is most plentiful, and manage business from the countries that have the most educated workers. It's essentially taking best advantage of the resources that each country has to offer.
All of that sounds really good if you live in a Western country, but pretty crappy if you don't. Which means that children in well-off countries will be treated better, and children in poor countries will have to work in sweat-shops. Because that's how children in those classes are and always will be treated.
That said: a couple disclaimers. Most countries have high-tech industries and production both, to some extent. There is a lot of business and technology development happening in China. I'm talking more in terms of the percentage of the population that work particular jobs. No country specializes entirely in one thing. I also talked about the United States a lot in particular, because that's the country I'm familiar with. Things may be different or the same in other countries such as the UK, but I don't have the hands-on knowledge to say.
The world economy is essentially being structured in a way such that the citizens in countries like the United States have more white collar jobs (such as designing things), and third world countries have more traditional blue collar jobs (such as manufacturing things). Of course, the United States will never have a 100% service economy, but those are the general trends. The main cause behind this is globalization: the idea that it's cheapest to manufacture things in China, where manual labor is cheapest, to grow Bananas in South America where the climate is most favorable, pump oil from the Middle East where it is most plentiful, and manage business from the countries that have the most educated workers. It's essentially taking best advantage of the resources that each country has to offer.
All of that sounds really good if you live in a Western country, but pretty crappy if you don't. Which means that children in well-off countries will be treated better, and children in poor countries will have to work in sweat-shops. Because that's how children in those classes are and always will be treated.
That said: a couple disclaimers. Most countries have high-tech industries and production both, to some extent. There is a lot of business and technology development happening in China. I'm talking more in terms of the percentage of the population that work particular jobs. No country specializes entirely in one thing. I also talked about the United States a lot in particular, because that's the country I'm familiar with. Things may be different or the same in other countries such as the UK, but I don't have the hands-on knowledge to say.
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That's not quite true. Corporal punishment is actually used in greater numbers in middle class families, but it is used more frequently in lower class families. Personally, I'm against any kind of corporal punishment. #ConsciousDisciplineSinon said:
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