Do you believe Jesus is God

Sbfc said:
Cosmic said:
Sbfc said:
Perhaps according to the Bible he is, but no. God doesn't exist. Lionel Messi is the closest thing to a God 😛
Why even post? The question assumes you are a Christian. The bible's opinion is jsut as valuable as yours, so it would be best you acknowledge that the bible could be true.

I'll think what I want. I don't believe the Bible is factual at all. The only thing I acknowledge related to the Bible is that it is has been published and written. And I do believe Jesus exited. And mothing in this topic saying atheists cannot answer.

Why so serious anyway?
You stated that "God doesn't exists", as a fact. You could say that it's in your opinion, but stating something like that as a fact is wrong and inconsiderate.
 
Gimgak said:
Sbfc said:
Cosmic said:
Sbfc said:
Perhaps according to the Bible he is, but no. God doesn't exist. Lionel Messi is the closest thing to a God 😛
Why even post? The question assumes you are a Christian. The bible's opinion is jsut as valuable as yours, so it would be best you acknowledge that the bible could be true.

I'll think what I want. I don't believe the Bible is factual at all. The only thing I acknowledge related to the Bible is that it is has been published and written. And I do believe Jesus exited. And mothing in this topic saying atheists cannot answer.

Why so serious anyway?
You stated that "God doesn't exists", as a fact. You could say that it's in your opinion, but stating something like that as a fact is wrong and inconsiderate.

Because it is a fact. At best, God is a spiritual figure, not a physical one. Spiritual figures don't technically exist and are just a figment of imagination. God is psychological.
 
No. I have no evidence to believe God even exists, let alone manifested himself. A really old book doesn't cut it. Although I DO think there's most likely a God, it's ONLY because of how structured and complex the universe is. I see no evidence pointing to the existence of a messiah.
 
I do not believe in Christianity at all. Heck, I don't believe in any religion. I think religion is just another story made up to control our lives.
 
Ok everyone, this is not an Atheist Vs. Christianity debate. It is belief if Jesus is God or not. Please keep it that way.
 
Have it your way. I'll respond as I should.

No.

I don't believe Jesus is God.

Got it?

Okay, I'm done here.
 
Irviding said:
Some Christians believe he is the actual God though. I just think he's the son of God like it's taught in the bible.

dotDavid said:
I can't find it now, but the Bible does actually say the trinity is one, ie. God, his Son and the Holy Spirit are one whole, and therefore Jesus is God.

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 (written: 712 BC (Before Christ)

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23

For unto us a Child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder: and his name will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 (written: 712 BC (Before Christ)

And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people. Luke 7:16

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

because he had not only broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:18

Jesus said:
I and my Father are one. John 10:30

The Jews answered him [Jesus], saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10:33

When many were about to stone Jesus for blasphemy (John 10:30-39), He said to them that said he blasphemed "because I said, I am the Son of God?" (John 10:36).

You call Me Teacher and Lord; and ye say well; for so I Am. John 13:13

But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
And Jesus said, I Am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 14:61-62

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalm 110:1

he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9

"Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works." ( John 14:10)

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5

And Thomas answered and said unto him [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28

...lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Colossians 1:14-17

...Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2:6

...For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

...who [Jesus] is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 1 Timothy 6:15

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. Hebrews 1:2-3

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:13

And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24

Zechariah 12:10 - And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58

Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven Matthew 7:21

source: http://www.bibleprobe.com/jesus-is-God.htm


Mokeli said:
Irviding said:
Some Christians believe he is the actual God though. I just think he's the son of God like it's taught in the bible.
Your right because how can someone be son of there self.

Our finite minds are limited to our current understanding.

If you really cared, you could search my posts, in which, one of them I mentioned why I believe what I do, due to an experience I've had a couple years ago.

...let the refutation begin! :cheer:
 
Mokeli said:
Wolfy said:
From what Hishikawa13 says is that Jesus is God and is also the son of God. How can you be the son of yourself?

I am not Christian so I don't believe in any.
your right, Jesus Christ is not God, he is the son of God.
God created the heaven and earth, Jesus Christ did not, Jesus Christ died on the Cross,God did not because God never dies but God is so powerful that he raised his only begotten son from the dead.
because only God can do that because he is all power and is the Almighty God.

Jesus/God are part of the Trinity along with the holy spirit in christian belief.

Even I know that, and Im pagan.
 
Jesus Christ is most definitely God. He created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, in his image. He is the Creator of the universe. The Bible says, “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made” (John 1:3). This includes all the stars, all the original animals and plants, and even the angels (Colossians 1:15-17).

It is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed.

Jesus proved that he is God by doing many things that only God could do. These are called miracles. He made dead people alive. He walked across a great lake. He made blind eyes see perfectly again. He healed deadly diseases with a word.

The exciting truth is that Jesus is now also a man, and will remain so for all eternity. He humbled himself to become like one of his own creations. He chose to become a man to help us in an extremely important way. This amazing event happened about 2-thousand years ago. The results have changed the world forever.

The part of God that is called the Holy Spirit created God's human body inside of a woman named Mary (Matthew 1:20). God went into this human body that grew inside of Mary. The baby was born and grew into a man.

At various times in the past, Jesus had appeared to people in human form. One example is when he appeared to Abraham just before the judgment of the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. But now, for the first time in history, God did not simply appear as man, he became fully human. Yet, he is still God. He is both God and man.

One huge difference between this man and every other man and woman, or boy and girl, is that Jesus was (and still is) sinless. We humans are full of sin. We sin every day. Jesus never did anything wrong, not even once. No matter what temptations came to him, he refused to sin. He has always remained pure and perfect.

Isn't it amazing to think about?! Our Creator walked among us. Like us, our Almighty God smelled the flowers and touched the animals that he had created. He loved boys and girls.

As a man, God experienced the same temptations that we feel (Hebrews 2:18). He suffered the same kind of physical pains that we suffer with. He also experienced emotional pain. He even wept about the city of Jerusalem (John 11:35). He was ignored, unappreciated, unloved, misunderstood, and even despised—even though he did nothing wrong, and always loved everyone (1 Peter 2:23). Not only is Jesus Christ the greatest man that ever lived; he is our Creator. He deserved all glory and honor!

I am sure that you have heard what people did to him. It was horribly painful and terribly unjust.

He had the power to stop their torture and taunting at any time. His power is awesome beyond anything we can understand. Yet, he did not defend himself. He let himself be like a perfect, innocent little lamb that hurt no one, and was sacrificed for the sins of the people.

He did this for us, because he loves us. Only he could pay the price for our sins. Only he could save us from the punishment we deserve. He suffered for us (1 Peter 2:21; 3:18; 4:1).

Today, he lives in Heaven and works to help us (Romans 8:34). The Bible tells us that one day he will return to earth to become the rightful king of the entire world. That will be a most wonderful time! Finally, we will have a leader that is good and wise in every way. The earth will be filled with God's glory and justice. Life on this planet will become so much better. Even the dangerous animals will become harmless (the wolf will lie down with the lamb) (Isaiah 11:6).

Is Jesus Christ God or man? The amazing answer is BOTH; he is God and man.

http://www.christiananswers.net/kids/ed ... orman.html
 
God created the heavens and the earth. Jesus didn't. Jesus sacrificed himself to forgive everyone's sins.

If you go find a bible around your house, please read John 3:16

I know the Trinity
Father/Son/the Holy Spirit
 
In one word no as a person decended from god but as a preacher who people believed in the possibly.
 
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